Hazmat For Primed Brass

[CWTISME]

I have a question. Why don't primed Hulls have to pay Hazmat ? Is it the same for Primed Brass ?
I just bought 100 Fiocchi Primed Hulls for 20.00 and because I was getting some other stuff it didn't cost me extra shipping. That's almost what it would cost for 100 primers.
Any one know why it is safe to ship these but not expertly packaged primers ? Mine arrived in plastic bag,Has anyone ever heard of a modern accident with Primers ?

 

[AJC1]

I don't know why but I know you can ship primed brass no hazmat. Sometimes it's better not to ask.

 

[dcarr]

I don't know why but I know you can ship primed brass no hazmat. Sometimes it's better not to ask.

I totally agree, sometimes it's better not to ask, you might kill a good thing.

 

[1911in9mm]

It’s because of the spacing or separation. The odds one detonation would cause multiple primer detonations is minuscule. So much so it doesn’t cause the DOT concern when offered for transportation.
Lends back to the I hate Federal primers packaging. They’re packed in larger packs to comply with DOT mandates to their spacing. Not because Federal wants them in those atrociously large packs. I know it’s hard to comprehend the government screwing something up, but it happens.
Just look at modern gas cans.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I'm guessing no hazmat for primed brass or hulls because if they did charge they would also name to charge for loaded ammo. The ammo companies lobbied for no hazmat shipping of ammo so they had to allow primed brass too. (if I had to guess)

 

[Blue68f100]

The main reason is the drop test that they have to meet. When a primer is installed it can no longer be impacted from all sides. The odds of dropping primed brass and it hitting a object to set it off is very very slim. But if you do that with loosely packed primers it will set them off. Since Federal are the most sensitive they have to have the spacing to prevent chain reaction detonation. Primers are the only thing we use that is classified as an explosive.

 

[Dogleg7]

All sounds reasonable but let's not look at gift horse in the mouth

 

[Navy]

It's the skeptic in me that wonders if the Hazmat fee for primed hulls is legitimate.

 

[EricBu]

Because primed brass is considered loaded ammunition, which is not hazmat, and can be shipped with the same warning label (black and white triangle) as ammo, or any other flammable/dangerous material.

 

[EricBu]

It's the skeptic in me that wonders if the Hazmat fee for primed hulls is legitimate.

If you're paying hazmat for primed hulls, you're getting played. Buy somewhere else.

 

[CWTISME]

These seem like reasonable reasons why. I contend with all the millions of primers shipped everyday we have yet to hear about any being set off accidentally. I suspect our enemies who be shouting from the mountain tops if there had been an explosion during shipping. It does seem likely to me that back in the day Ammo manufactures put an extra charge on us reloaders using their pull .

 

[N555]

Don't ask, don't tell.

 

[mdi]

I have no idea where government agencies get the reasons for their "rules". I haven had any Federal primers in many years so I can't remember how potentially "dangerous" their packaging is. But every other primer I have used is packaged so none will contact another even if dropped off a 5 story building...