Heard John Lott speak today on campus

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Small group of about 50 attended. I overheard some anti's make their presence known. He is a good and very casual speaker. In the half hour he went over various points that were made in TBAG (no pun intended). He mentioned how 5 gallon buckets with 4 inches of water in them kill more kids accidentaly under the age of 10 than those under the age of 5 with guns. At the end he took some questions, one girl, who obviously wasn't listening (this was at the law school BTW) pipes up with her, I'm guessing, Brady Bunch talking point.

Her:"Hmm, but how can the proliferation of guns in our country also cause crime to go down when there are so many guns and violence and not to mention 60% of suicides in the US are done with guns whereas in other civilized countries like Japan, where there are no guns, there is little crime?"

Lott: "Japan's suicide rate is 3 times as high as ours."

her: stammering "b-but without the use of guns."

I don't think that she saw her negate her own point. Lott told her she wasn't really hearing what he was saying and went on to tell her the true facts of the matter and how they relate, essentially that gun ownership and violence vary drastically in many countries, but that there is not much correllation and that there are classification problems.

I asked the girl, after the talk, if she "know's what the suicide rate in Switzerland is? I'm just curious?"

her: "oh well, because they have guns in every house?"

me: "yeah, a machine gun in most every home."

her: "No, I don't know what the suicide rate is there."

me: "Ok, just wondering."

her: "But Japan has no guns and little crime."

I left after that but should have asked her about England. It doesn't matter because she didn't want to hear it anyway.

FYI, this was in San Diego PRK and there was IMHO a 10/1 ratio of pro-2A/CCW'rs vs. Anti's.;)
 
actually, the figure is 55% of suicides in US for 2001 involved firearms.
(30,622 total suicides / 16,869 suicide by gun)

and the figure is 57% of firearm related deaths by suicide.
(29,573 total firearm-related deaths / 16,869 suicide by gun)
 
Your kids are 100x safer if you have a gun in the house than having a swimming pool..

Of course, don't confuse the poor girl with facts..;)

swimming pools, 5 gallon buckets, bicycles, mini-blinds, plastic bags, house-hold bleach. These kill more kids per year than guns..

But guns are black and E V I L.. Don't confuse me with facts and statistics...:rolleyes: It's an emotional think you logical people wouldn't understand..:rolleyes: :cuss:
 
her: "But Japan has no guns and little crime."

Actually both are false. Lots of criminals there (organized crime) have guns, and they do use them.

Japan's crime rates are much higher than you'd think. There is a huge difference how crimes are investigated. Lots of "grab the likely suspect, and beat a confession out of him"....
 
This was at USD. I would have posted a notice before hand because I know many of you are in the area. It was a complete act of randomness that I even heard mention of him coming and that was at 11pm the night before, so I feel lucky to have made it. He has a personal site, google it, or try something like johnlott.org , johnlott.com, maybe both. The site has upcoming events and he seems to be in SoCal alot. I know I am off on the figures, I was typing off of memory. Thx anyway though.:)
 
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