e7grt5,
Welcome to THR.
You ain't from around these parts are you?
Well I am from the CSA and I am here to help.
Have a seat, comfy?
Look me dead straight in the face.
For your information I am 53 years old, and what I am about to share comes from my experiences and observations.
You can PM Jeff White, JShirley, Lee Lapin, and some other Staff around here and they will only give you a "yes" or "no" answer to you asking about me.
1. Software not Hardware.
The goal of a responsible firearm owner is to never get into a situation where they have to use a firearm to defend themselves.
I am speaking of civilians, which would be best served to use ADEE model.
Police have a duty to run toward harm's way, and AJOJ is the model for them.
2. Mindset, Skillsets "then" Toolsets.
See #1.
3. There are NO magic talismans when it comes to handguns, shotguns or rifles. Not the gun, not the ammo, or any accessories .
4. Each individual has to access where they live and activities of daily living ( ADLs).
Male, female, age, physical condition, enacted laws where they live, travel, attend school, work, ...etc.
Still comfy? I hope so, and continue to look me straight in the face.
5. Have you ever stood outside the curtain in a Emergency Room, while a Rape Kit was administered to a young lady?
Under age 21, and by law could not carry concealed.
Restraining Orders only support after the fact criminal acts of evil.
Well I have not only been outside that curtain while a Rape Kit was administered once, I have been numerous times.
6. Have you ever been in a Operating Room and assisted on a surgery or organ harvest?
Have you ever carried an amputated leg over to another table?
Handed a surgeon more suture so plastic surgeon could reattach a breast on a 18 year old?
Or another plastic surgeon repair a vagina on a 15 year old?
How about assisting getting the dead mom of dead kids, cleaned up and looking fine for the kids, Husband and Family to come back to OR 18 to view her body?
WE tried, damn we tried, but the quietest quiet one will ever hear is when life leaves the body in a OR Theatre.
7. pax wrote an article about using a handgun, and Larry Corriea wrote the counterpoint in using a rifle as defensive tool in the home.
Neither one of these two will laugh, or make fun of what I have always done, still do, and will continue to do.
8. Single Shot Shotgun, 20 gauge and I and others will get a person up to speed in short order on how to use that shotgun.
My chosen deal has been ladies, be they teenagers, single adults, single moms, widows, grandma's, aunts, sisters...
My other group is the elderly, and physically limited.
Life is hard, and if a teenager loses a leg , they are limited and they by golly have a right to be safe!
This is not Armchair Ranger, this is not NetNinja, this hard cold reality!
Fear rips through a person's very being, blood leaves a copper taste in the mouth.
Sexual assault and Rape leaves one "dirty" and one can take a bath after bath and shower after shower and still not feel "clean".
Give me a wee bit of time, and I can, as I have, get a lady up to speed with a single shot shotgun.
Give me 30 minutes and I will get them up to speed on a Med Frame revolver.
This is not IDPA/IPSC, 3 Gun, Bulls-Eye, - no, this injury, maim, rape, or death Software I am doing.
Preventive Steps and I mean fast and furious. Move the gal and her kid(s).
Lights, Locks, all sorts of things.
This person gets someone to stay with them, they travel with others, even park and hide their vehicle and ride with another, or use another vehicle.
Legal is fast tracked for these persons.
ADEE.
If Evil comes into where this lady, kids, whomever is, they have a right to defend and Do not tell me, or those that have, or are prepared to, a Single Shot Shotgun is not a viable tool!
Don't!
Now my deal includes Skeet. A skeet field is a real useful tool to me.
Ladies and kids meet some others like them.
Kids do BBGuns and .22 rifles...
Hot Dawgs, Corn Dawgs, Hamburgers, Lemonade, Chocolate...
People interacting, sharing experiences , strength and hope.
Skeet is just part of it.
Dove hunting is a tradition here in the South. We use shotguns.
It is about the people, especially the first hunt for kids and ladies.
That skeet field replicates hunting target presentations.
That teenager, or lady that gets a Beretta 390/391, or Rem 1100 for instance can have a lot of fun shooting skeet, dove hunting, and ...
Skeet field is my deal for serious lessons too!
A skeet target is about 4" in diameter and travels at ~ 55 mph.
Station Low 8 means one is facing that target coming out.
Tueller drill is a target coming at one from 21 feet and will reach them in 1.5 seconds.
One of the best kept secrets is a 20 gauge semi-auto shotgun.
Beretta 390/391, Rem 1100, Win 1400.
Yes these guns have 26" or 28" barrels.
Yes they most likely are restricted to 3 shells total, and the 1400 is for sure because of design.
Don't tell me someone that shoots such a gun, a lot, to a point that gun is an extension of them, and they can break a 4" target traveling 55 mph is not able take care of a situation.
I know better, so do the ladies, gents that have in fact stopped a serious threat with such a shotgun, they use for skeet, dove, quail hunting.
Don't.
9. Gun Control is about Control- period!
I grew up before 911 and cell phones.
Times were interesting.
Have you ever had a mob come down where you were and they were tossing firebombs to set houses and structures on fire?
I have.
A shotgun, just a plain old shotgun one uses for hunting, skeet, and trap will fell a firebomb before it reaches a porch, or roof, or anything else.
I've shot fire bombs out of the sky.
No funky AR Stocks, no goopy sights, just earned skill with a shotgun being the versatile tool it is proven to be.
Have you ever been in a Tornado, and in a rural/semi rural area everyone is pitching in to assist those affected?.
It is dark, only oil lamps, kerosene lamps, Coleman Red Single Mantle lanterns and some chrome flashlights.
Evil comes down, and their intent is to take things from folks and to take advantage of persons affected.
There is a difference in projectiles fired from firearms incoming, from those outgoing.
Trust me on this!
Evil comes in, they get past a gate, and come in shooting guns at folks affected by a tornado.
Verbal intent is stated by evil.
Folks take cover, and folks have guns, guns brought to them as their guns were blown away, or cannot be accessed until the structure is pulled off of them.
Some of those guns were Single Shot Shotguns, and Med Frame Revolvers.
Some were just plain old pump guns, or semi-autos used for skeet, trap, and hunting.
Don't tell me a single shot shotgun in 20 ga , loaded with slugs, will not stop evil.
I know the sound of incoming at me, and I know the sound of 20 ga slugs I fired to stop that threat.
I was not very old either.
10. I don't give a plugged nickel what Gun Control says.
Guns do not cause evil.
Gun Control suggests one use a cell phone and call 911.
Supreme Court said the First Responders do no have to respond.
Folks have a right to do what they may, and if someone feels comfy walking out amongst evil with just a cell phone, that is their business.
Then again...Cell Phones contribute to evil!
Evil is often not alone , so evil can target a victim, and communicate with others in a team to take one down.
Ban Cell Phones.
Hey, this follows the thinking of Gun Control does it not?
11. I don't give a rip what folks use for serious situations in the home, business or travel.
As long as the firearm is safe and the ammunition is correct.
My contention has always been for folks to get correct basic fundamentals down pat, and continue quality practice.
This means Software first , and the use of whatever Hardware they choose second.
Software and Hardware needs to be an extension of the person.
As we say in the South, that is how the cow ate the cabbage.
e7grt5,
Enjoy your stay here at THR.
Just know, at this very second, pax has a handgun handy, Larry Correia has a rifle handy and I have a handgun on person and a Youth Single Shot 20 ga with a slug handy.
We all 3 know the legal of where we are.
We all 3 know the Software.
We all 3 know the Hardware.
We are all 3 Correct.
Steve