(HI) Licensed gun dealer given probation for firearms violations

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Licensed gun dealer given probation for firearms violations

WAILUKU – A gun shop owner apologized and said he had cautioned his customers about proper firearm registration procedures, as he was sentenced Thursday on multiple charges of possessing unregistered firearms and high-capacity magazines earlier this year.

“I’ve paid a heavy price,” said 64-year-old David V. Hakes.

The licensed gun dealer said he depleted his retirement savings to post bail, hire a lawyer and continue paying rent for his business.

“Even though I could not be around guns and ammunition, I felt a need to open my shop in the morning so I’d have a reason to put my feet on the floor and to keep in contact with my customers,” Hakes said. “I have to keep my doors open. I just have to.”

Second Circuit Judge Joseph Cardoza followed a recommendation by both the prosecution and defense in giving Hakes a chance to keep the convictions off his record if he follows court requirements for five years on felony charges and one year on other charges.

“Hopefully, as time moves on, this will be something that you have learned from and, at the same time, something you can put in the past,” Cardoza said.

Hakes had pleaded no contest as charged to two felony counts and 15 misdemeanor counts of possessing a prohibited pistol magazine and 42 petty misdemeanor counts of acquiring a firearm without registration.

State law prohibits magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition. The charge is a misdemeanor unless the magazine is in a pistol, which makes the charge a felony.

Firearms are required to be registered within five days of acquisition under the law.

As part of the plea agreement, Hakes agreed to testify in the case of Kihei resident Michael Hyatt, who was charged with multiple firearms offenses after police seized rifles, handguns, semiautomatic weapons and one fully automatic gun when officers searched his home in February.

After learning that Hyatt had given eight guns to Hakes to sell on consignment, officers searched Hakes’ home in Pukalani and his business, Hakes Barrel Works in the Millyard area of Wailuku.

Police reported seizing 22 handguns, 20 rifles and shotguns and 17 illegal high-capacity magazines from Hakes’ home and business.

A total of 96 guns were seized from both men, according to police.

Deputy Prosecutor Robert Rivera said the prosecution recommended that Hakes be given a chance to keep the convictions off his record because he was willing to testify in Hyatt’s case.

As part of his sentence, Hakes was ordered not to own or possess firearms and ammunition.

“He will not be able to operate his business,” said defense attorney Philip Lowenthal. “He’s at work, but he can’t really do business.”

Lowenthal said he and Hakes would return to court after a while in hopes of having Hakes’ deferral period shortened.

Hyatt, 65, is scheduled to be sentenced later this month after pleading no contest to one felony charge of possessing a prohibited pistol magazine and 52 petty misdemeanor charges of acquiring a firearm without registration. Two other charges were dismissed in exchange for his pleas.

http://www.mauinews.com/story.aspx?id=13977

looking at these 'violations', how many of these are things that most of us (except those in CA, MA, and NY) take for granted every day?
 
Hawaii is owned by an alliance of leftists and foreigners. It has some of the most draconian gun laws in the nation. Mr. Hakes should have jumped on a jet and headed up here. Could have saved himself a lot of trouble.

We should give the whole place to Japan. They basically own it anyway.
 
Hawaii is a mess. I dont even understand why we annexed it.

Besides the navy, I'm not aware of us every having any real americans there. Surely there cant have been much cultural diffusion between the local polynesians and the US military. And the Japanese who emigrated there cant have assimilated very well either. It looks like a leftist beachhead on america. 2 senate seats is actually quite a lot.
 
beerslurpy said:
Hawaii is a mess. I dont even understand why we annexed it.

Besides the navy, I'm not aware of us every having any real americans there. Surely there cant have been much cultural diffusion between the local polynesians and the US military. And the Japanese who emigrated there cant have assimilated very well either. It looks like a leftist beachhead on america. 2 senate seats is actually quite a lot.
We annexed it because it is of immense strategic value. It was either us or the Russians or the Japanese who would get it.

Cultural diffisuion has not happened in Hawaii. It is unlike the rest of the US. Its culture still derives from the old Hawaiian caste system, with infusions from Japan and other places.

Gun control fits in well with their caste system. Actually their gun laws are no worse than California's, but one thing is CA will have CCW before HI does. Even the UK will have CCW before HI does. The only way HI will ever get CCW would be if there is some kind of national CCW bill (unlikely) or some kind of federal court case that makes it happen (also unlikely). Actually it may be a good thing to not have CCW in Hawaii because they do have a culture of enjoying a good brawl. Brawling doesn't turn out so well when one or more of the particpants is armed. An armed society is necessarily a polite society.

It's a thoroughly corrupt place, it's all about connections, relationships, hierarchy and race there. Amazingly they now do have a fairly good governor who is a Jewish Republican. But the Japanese are a solid Democratic block and truly corrupt.

Strangely the state government is run by Japanese who have contempt and disdain for local Hawaiian culture.

It's an anti-intellectual place where people have little hope and little ambition.
 
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If he pleased no contest to two felonies, how is he ever going to own or sell a weapon again? How can someone be convicted, and then keep those convictions off one's record?
 
How can someone be convicted, and then keep those convictions off one's record?

Expungement is a process whereby one's record can be cleaned up after X years of good behavior. It is often included as an element of plea deals:

"Plea guilty to X, accept sentence Y, and probation Z, keep your nose clean, and we'll clear the record in Z years."
 
Hawaii is as far geographically and philosophically from CONUS as you can get. That said, I'm looking forward to visiting the state in about three years. I'll leave my CCW at home... :mad:
 
Hawaii is a mess. I dont even understand why we annexed it.

Mostly due to the value of having a Navel base there. At the time most of our suger came from the place as well.

"Plea guilty to X, accept sentence Y, and probation Z, keep your nose clean, and we'll clear the record in Z years."

Or sometimes the judge will change the record after probation is done. If this was the person's first offece and had good behavior while on probation. This happend to me.

-Bill
 
And, to make it more fun, HI is part of the 9th Circus, where the 2A doesn't protect and individual right, so you stand no chance of winning a federal case on 2A grounds either.
 
ElTacoGrande said:
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Gun control fits in well with their caste system. Actually their gun laws are no worse than California's, but one thing is CA will have CCW before HI does. Even the UK will have CCW before HI does. The only way HI will ever get CCW would be if there is some kind of national CCW bill (unlikely) or some kind of federal court case that makes it happen (also unlikely). Actually it may be a good thing to not have CCW in Hawaii because they do have a culture of enjoying a good brawl. Brawling doesn't turn out so well when one or more of the particpants is armed. An armed society is necessarily a polite society.

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After finding out more and more about CCW years ago, I began wondering why there are different laws for different states. Are we not all Americans? So we and a couple other states get stuck with 10 rnd magazines despite the AWB sunset, and no concealed carry despite the number of states who do have "shall" issue. But I've come to same conclusion you have - it would take either a major cultural change here or something from the federal level forcing the states to have similar laws. I think the main issue is most of the people who live here did not grow up around firearms. I also wonder whether the elitism comes from the old luna to plantation worker relationship in the old plantation days.

Although I don't fully agree with your other statements, I do feel this place is a bad combination of a lot of things that on the surface seem good. The "Aloha spirit" for example. To me, it's really nothing special as far as the state goes. From what I've experienced here and elsewhere, you can find that kind of helpfulness, kindness and courteousness anywhere around the world. Seems to concentrate around smaller, less populated places too. The term is used a lot here, but as the state gets bigger and bigger I think the spirit will fade. But it's still used, and I think it puts people into a state of denial, both visitors who leave their rental cars unlocked and then get ripped off, and residents who live their lives blissfully while typical big city urban crime occurs everyday.

Personally, I'm beginning to think my friend had the right idea moving to the continental 48. He cited the corruption and politics here as one of the reasons, not to mention job opportunities. But he moved to California, which I've decided I won't do. If the shipyard here ever closes (which could happen in the future), we're moving out of here.
 
Personally, I'm beginning to think my friend had the right idea moving to the continental 48. He cited the corruption and politics here as one of the reasons, not to mention job opportunities. But he moved to California, which I've decided I won't do. If the shipyard here ever closes (which could happen in the future), we're moving out of here.

I left Maui last year after 15 years. It's been a sort of bittersweet transition. There is no place like the islands and after 15 years there, pretty much wherever you go you'll suffer culture shock in a big way.

It is wonderfully hopeful to be out from under the awful, corrupt system that runs Hawaii! I moved to a smaller town NE of Atlanta and am delighted at local politics...there are problems, but my city and county governments (and to a large degree, my state government) are run well, by professionals. The best part about it though, is that the people participate in their local governments! That Hawaiian apathy just doesn't really exist in large scale here.

We've been here about a year and are just beginning to adjust. There's a great deal of opportunity, but it's hard to get into it at first since nobody really knows you.

I carry 24/7 and the gun (and the freedom it represents to me) serve as a reminder to me why I left Maui and what I have to look forward to in the future. If you are one of those who wants to affect change in your community and see the world evolve back into a place where liberty is cherished, there are more encouraging places to fight that fight than Hawaii.

I guess I'll take my Fox Labs, surefire and benchmade when I go back to visit this Jan.

They've done a really good job out there of turning the people into serfs and I guess the environment of sensual beauty is enough to charm most everyone into compliance. I, for one, am relieved to have broken it's spell.
 
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