Hi-Point Carbine

[TascoFeldman]

Saw a Hi-Point carbine in my local toy store today and was curious. What would be a practical use for this weapon. It looks like a decent HD gun but what else? I do quite a bit of 4-wheelin in target rich areas, coyote & hogs mostly. Would one of these be suited for such activities, I understand pistol ranges would probably be best, 50yds or so. If so, what caliber, 9mm or 40. I hear rumors of a 45 version. Just 2c, I'm no snob to brand, price point is reasonable & I understand warrenty is pretty good. The rifle is not all that attractive but appears functional and it shouldered naturaly for me. Any opinions?

 

[Big Bill]

I bought the 995TS and like it. I know it'll kill coyotes and probably hogs too. (I haven't shot a hog though.) I paid $250 OTD fo mine. With the warranty, I don't think I went too far wrong.

 

[sxcamaro05]

We sell quite a few at work in 9mm and the 40 SW. I fired one and they are def. better than the handguns. Granted target/self defense is about the limit of them. I suppose you could carry it with you while ATV riding but not too much application past the previously mentioned things.

As far as warranty goes bring "pretty good", lifetime is great. A guy actually backed over his rifle case at a camp site and trashed his Winchester and hi point. Hi point sent him a new carbine, and he now has a winchester paper weight lol.

Also if you do not like the stocks ATI makes a few replacement stocks for them as do other 3rd party companies.

 

[jkulysses]

I just wish they would make them to where they take Glock magazines!!! That's the one thing that makes me want the Kel Tec carbine but overall considering price I think the Hi Point is the better bargain.

 

[five.five-six]

buddy of mine has an older one in 9mm with ghost ring sights, cheep as hell and a hoot to shoot, the only thing is the stock stings the heck out of my cheek

 

[Gord]

The aftermarket CX4-style stocks are a lot more solid and a lot less creaky - first thing I'd swap out if it were me. But, yeah, I wish they'd make 'em to accept Glock mags; wonder if it's possible to 'smith that feature in and how much it'd cost.

Given the unanimously glowing reviews about their customer service and insane warranty, the proprietary magazines are probably the only way the company's making money...

 

[Maverick223]

They are a pretty decent carbine and a great deal for the money. As others said, they are limited in application, but don't let that stop you, they make a great plinker.

 

[bigfatdave]

Given the unanimously glowing reviews about their customer service and insane warranty, the proprietary magazines are probably the only way the company's making money

Maybe not even that, I remember reading stories about sending a borked Hi Point in for service and getting it back with a handful of mags tossed in.

I found the basic HP carbines to be surprisingly ergonomic, accurate enough for plinking, and damn cheap.
But I wanted a folder that took bigger more common magazines, so I went with Kel Tec for PCC needs, but I admit, it was a close thing.

 

[nalioth]

What to do with them?

There's a fellow over on one of the Hi-Point forums who loves pointing out that he wins 3-gun matches with his . . .

They're a fine PCC, don't let the "small magazine naysayers" put you off.

 

[Rail Driver]

I haven't ever owned the carbine (only the C9 pistol, which was great though UGLY) but I've fired one quite a bit, and I gotta say it's a great little carbine. Fun, easy to shoot, and accurate. Plus if you have the old style stock you can dress up in a monkey suit and look like you walked out of Planet of the Apes!

 

[wriggly]

I have a KelTech, and had one of the Hi Points. Fun little gun. I have a very good friend that has an inoperable tumor in his spine, that causes a loss of strength in his upper body/arms. I gave him the Hi Point, because it was light enough to hold up and control with his condition. That, and the light recoil, and cheap ammo cost were helpful as well. He is able to still go to the range and have a good time with me.

I saw a clean used 995TS at Cabelas last week for $140, and I am sorry I didnt snag it.

 

[rondog]

I have both 9mm and .40 HP carbines. Great plinking guns, but I wouldn't recommend hunting anything bigger than coyotes with them, certainly not enough punch for hogs. I wouldn't feel undergunned using the .40 for s/d or h/d for sure, the 9 would probably be fine too. The extra barrel length does add some more oomph to standard ammo, my .40 loves slightly hotter loads too.

Put a cheap BSA red-dot from WalMart on one, and it's the perfect plinking carbine. We bust the snot outta soda cans filled with water, golf balls, clay pigeons, whatever we can point 'em at. They also do good with paper! This is my first target with the .40, there's a full box of 50 rounds in that hole. Took the gun out of the box and started shooting. I had to start shooting at the edge of the hole to see any results/hits. Never touched the sights, but I did put a tiny piece of masking tape on the front blade so I could see it better.

It was funny, the range nazi saw the carbine and came over to watch, hoping for a good laugh when "my High Point blows up". When I was done, she just had this look of disbelief on her face.

 

[writerinmo]

Yep, I admit it... I own several Hi Points. Still waiting for one of them to "blow up in my face" as I was warned early on by someone who had never shot one or even held one. He had "heard" that they were junk jammomatics and only gangbangers bought them because they were cheap enough to toss in the river and not cry over.

The .45 carbine is out now, a couple of the guys over on the HP forums have picked them up and basically they are the same design as the 9mm and 40 ones, so pretty much the same reviews and range reports on them, if that's the caliber you want.

I guess it's strange, just looking over my small collection that I am building again after finally getting done with a nasty divorce, that everything that I own seems to be something that a load of people have knocked down for being 'cheap POS' firearms, but these all work fine especially with a bit of TLC. My two HP's, my Sigma .40, my Mosin Nagant and Armscor M1600 .22... not a lot of money but sure fun, accurate shooters!

 

[frankiestoys]

Fun little carbines, they work well & more accurate then you might think.
Inexpensive to shoot and if you can get past the looks they make fine additions
to any collection this one has never had a failure of any kind.

 

[jpwilly]

Had a 995 and it was reliable with factory mags. Made the mistake of getting a couple ProMag 15rnders and it turned it into a jamomatic. The biggest shortcomming IMO is the lack of doublestack hi cap factory mags. Otherwise a great low doe plinking, HD, or camping/hunting carbine.

 

[2ndAmFan]

I don't own one, and have never fired one, but a friend of mine gave a 9mm Hi Point to his wife and she can really bust off some caps, accurately. She is not a very experienced shooter and I once watched her chasing a few cans around a field at about 30-40 yds and she wasn't missing many shots, even hitting cans while they were still moving from the previous shot a lot of the time. She only fired 2 mags, but there wasn't a single feed problem or misfire in that bunch, so that's a plus in my book. I wouldn't mind getting one, though I might opt for the .40 or .45 cal. I didn't know they were making a .45, but it sounds good to me. Make a nice compact HD or truck gun. According to advertisements I've seen they're +p+ rated too. Just about everyone I've talked to who owns one says they're good little guns, but they also complain about the low cap mag. Now if they'd come out with a 10mm and a 15 or 20 round mag...

 

[rondog]

I don't own one, and have never fired one, but a friend of mine gave a 9mm Hi Point to his wife and she can really bust off some caps, accurately. She is not a very experienced shooter and I once watched her chasing a few cans around a field at about 30-40 yds and she wasn't missing many shots, even hitting cans while they were still moving from the previous shot a lot of the time. She only fired 2 mags, but there wasn't a single feed problem or misfire in that bunch, so that's a plus in my book. I wouldn't mind getting one, though I might opt for the .40 or .45 cal. I didn't know they were making a .45, but it sounds good to me. Make a nice compact HD or truck gun. According to advertisements I've seen they're +p+ rated too. Just about everyone I've talked to who owns one says they're good little guns, but they also complain about the low cap mag.

Was that a carbine or a pistol? And I doubt y'all will ever see hi-cap mags from HP. As I understand it, they're targeting a specific and narrow market, people who need and/or want to have a gun around, but aren't really gun people. The fact that a lot of us gunnies like them too is just gravy for them. Probably some kind of stupid lawyer BS about the h/c mags too.

I have no experience with their pistols, but my two carbines are a hoot! I just buy a few extra mags and load 'em all up at once, so I can get off a lot of rounds before taking a break to reload 'em. Lets the gun cool down too.

 

[FWest]

I just picked a 9MM yeasterday at Cabelas. I had been looking for a 1911 and just use cabelas to get my hands on them before ordering. The sales person was all excited to show me these. He had been waiting for the store to get them in so he could buy one. For the price I felt what the heck, $249 cheap to shoot, great warranty and I like the look of these. For a disposable price, the gun is tight and has a solid feel, steel where is needs to be and comfortable.

 

[Maverick223]

...and I like the look of these.

He's been found!...The ONE person that doesn't think they are butt ugly!

 

[Col. Plink]

It's rough when the gun you want is finally being offered and there's nothing in the kitty to buy it with! My 40 carbine was a fantastic weapon, all the more so when considering price. I have yet to see a range report here about the 45...

 

[2ndAmFan]

rondog: It was a carbine. Sorry I didn't make that clear in my first post.

 

[wnycollector]

My father-in-laws girlfriend is picking up a hi-point .45 carbine for HD duty. I plan on breaking it in for her over the next few weeks

 

[JTH]

I have one of the first generation Hi Point 9mm carbines. One butt ugly carbine but it shoots quite well. I saw one of the new HP 45ACP carbines at a recent gun show for $285, almost bought it on impulse but I'm looking for a CCW/SD pistol at this point. Anyone with the new tactical stock Hi Point carbines in either 9mm, 40cal, or 45ACP that has shot the fugly first generation carbines are the new ones really any better. They do look better but I have other purchases on my mind right now. You can't beat the warranty. But I wouldn't bet my life on this brand of weapon. Fun plinker though!
JT

 

[rondog]

But I wouldn't bet my life on this brand of weapon.

I don't know that I'd necessarily consider one for a combat weapon, but I'd have NO concerns about using one for clearing goblins out of the house. My 4095 has certainly convinced me that it's reliable, accurate, and powerful enough to handle the job. But the gun under my bed is an M1 carbine with an Ultimak rail/handguard, a red-dot sight, a 15rd. mag, and two more in the pouch on the stock. Hard to argue with that.

 

[Maverick223]

But the gun under my bed is an M1 carbine with an Ultimak rail/handguard, a red-dot sight, a 15rd. mag, and two more in the pouch on the stock. Hard to argue with that.

That is my go-to rifle as well (minus the rail and red-dot). I wouldn't be afraid to use the Hi-Point carbine for SD, but I believe there are long guns better suited to the task.