High Capacity Magazine Ban

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I think a high capacity magazine ban of some kind is much more likely than a new AWB. That said, could there be a possibility that they draft legislation that bans the manufacture of rifles that accept the current high capacity magazines? So I guess they would have to make some kind of new type/shape of low capacity magazine for the new guns so that the old high capacity mags are incompatible?

How likely do you guys think something like this is compared to an AWB?
 
That said, could there be a possibility that they draft legislation that bans...
They could draft legislation that bans everything, not likely to pass though.
 
I think a magazine ban is almost inevitable to be honest. Too many Congressmen were making noises about having a "conversation" on hi cap mags. A ban on making new "assault rifles" and perhaps on importation is almost as likely I would say. Confiscation, registering all firearms sales, making everyone go thru a background check, all of those I think are just "wish list" items. They would be negotiated away during a "compromise". But the making of new hi cap mags I think would be one of the easiest measures for them to move on, compared to the other proposals.
 
The two key things to look for in any "ban" (in my opinion) are:

1- a "no transfer" clause for grandfathered items

2- mandatory registration of grandfathered guns or magazines

The presence of these two elements means it isn't just a ban, it's confiscation, because your children will NOT be able to inherit your guns (the government will). They think that by postponing confiscation until your death, you won't think of it as confiscation. Yes, that's how stupid they think we are.
 
Grandfathering provisions (legislation and enforcement) will be very important should some sort of AWB and/or hi-cap magazine comes down the pike (shoved down the gullets of Americans).
 
Anything without a grandfather clause is confiscation, pure and simple.
 
We need to fight any new limitations on magazine capacity with cold, hard facts.

Ten-round magazines didn't stop Eric Harris at Columbine. He brought thirteen of them.

Ten- and fifteen-round magazines didn't stop Seung-Hui Cho at Virginia Tech. He brought nineteen of them.

The latest reports out of Newtown say that Lanza changed magazines frequently. Some of his "spent" magazines had fifteen rounds remaining.

Magazine capacity is incidental to how much death and destruction a murderer can cause in a "gun-free zone." The crucial element is time.

However, limitations on magazine capacity will hurt the law-abiding. How many citizens do you know with handgun carry permits that carry more than one magazine? And why do police officers carry handguns that hold more than ten rounds?
 
Does this mean my M&P that I legally carry that holds 15 rounds is now a paper weight?
 
It might mean that your M&P will only be able to hold 10 rounds, or whatever they decide is the cut off "acceptable" amount. You might be required to turn in the other 15 round mag, or face a fine of 5,000 dollars for each mag and civil forfeiture of the mag. Another little evil twist would be to put a reward system on anyone who reports someone who has a hi cap mag. Say, 10% of the 5,000. Available for civilians and police officers alike. So if you find them during the course of your duty as a police officer it would be an extra $500 in your pocket. Or if you report someone at the range who is using a 15 round mag (quietly calling the police and reporting it). Those kinds of things.
 
Anything without a grandfather clause is confiscation, pure and simple.

No, technically it isn't, although the result is the same in the long run. But for those pushing this plan it's a distinction they will make, since confiscation is a loaded term.

Speculating, but those counting on court intervention to support 2a are delusional.

We need to fight any new limitations on magazine capacity with cold, hard facts.

Okay.

The coldest hardest fact is that smaller mags do in fact reduce the firepower one person can deploy. No getting around it, it's true, that's why large mags exist. Reduced firepower is what anti's are looking for, as the another increment in control, under the guise of 'common sense' restriction.

Arguing that smaller mags won't prevent mass shootings, or even change their outcome, while also true, sounds to most people like a weak excuse for Rambowannabees to have them, instead of a compelling argument.

Another hard cold fact we should face is that larger mags really make no difference for the good guys (as well as the bad guys), police/war excepted. Anti's know this and are selling it. They also know that a large cap ban won't help, which they neglect to mention.

And when the mag bans don't reduce murders, as they cannot, anti's plan to move on to the next thing. Goodbye semi-autos.

Final hard cold fact is that people are sick these mass murders, and heartsick about Newtown. We all are. They are ready to do something, and reducing firepower makes 'common sense' to them.

This will be a hard fight to win. Knucle draggers like I saw on CNN, and too many of the other 'gun people' I see, don't help.
 
You might be required to turn in the other 15 round mag, or face a fine of 5,000 dollars for each mag and civil forfeiture of the mag. Another little evil twist would be to put a reward system on anyone who reports someone who has a hi cap mag. Say, 10% of the 5,000.

Where are you getting these details from? Is this just speculation on your part?
 
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