High Fenced Deer Hunting. You have to see!!!

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We harumphed over this a couple of months back. I emailed the TV folks about the Jimmy Houston allegation; I don't know if anybody else, here, did so. I never heard back...

Art
 
Sorry I just got this last night..

Art,
I did the same thing. I just can't believe that Jimmy Houston was doing something like this. Do you think that their are a lot of shows done like this?
Gary
 
I have....

0 respect for "hunters" like this. They might as well go to a Supermarket and shoot a steak.
 
I've been inside one high fenced ranch on a hog hunt for meat hogs. It was over 700 acres, saw nothing like this where they'd pen something up on such a small plot. I would exclaim "unbelievable", but I heard about one deal where they had a remote controlled rifle/camera/sight system on a ranch and charged thousands to "hunt" it by paying to log on to control the rifle from the comfort of their Houston office, or where ever, and "hunt" on their lunch break, or whatever. :rolleyes: Now THAT just makes you wonder about people's stupidity. Wow, whadda hunting experience, killin' deer with a remote controlled gun from work. :rolleyes: Supposedly they'd cut and wrap and package the meat in dry ice for shipment to you and send you a shoulder mount.

I often wondered about a lot of those outdoor shows. But, on that high fence ranch I was on, seeing a trophy sized deer wasn't a problem. They were a lot more wary than the exotics, though. I was blood trailing a hog when I came upon a red stag. It walked up within feet of me, I suppose looking for a hand out! We drove down a road in the manager's jeep that he feeds from and it was like the pied piper. He says, "I like to let my hunters out back there to make a "stalk". :rolleyes: Another incident in that day of hunting, I saw some sort of goat/sheep, mufflon or something, coming down a trail. I was camoed out, stood there like a tree and he walked right up to me, sniffed, turned around and walked off! Wow, whadda challenge. I'd just leave the gun in the truck and use a hatchet. :rolleyes:

The hogs holed up in the brush, but I managed 3 in a day just because there were so danged many of 'em. At dusk, the all came out of the woods like a bunch of ants going for the feeder I was on. I must have seen three or four hundred of 'em on my way in after shooting my last one after dark.

I enjoyed the hog hunting, but I'd not go there to "hunt" exotics. I mean, it's not hunting. You might as well just walk into the San Antonio zoo and start blasting. :rolleyes: The deer hunting would be better. They're not penned on a small area there. But, the deer ain't exactly under a lot of hunting pressure, either. At least you actually have to drive there, can't do it from your office at work.:banghead:
 
that makes me sick, i mean honestly after the years i have spent in the woods hunting deer/elk i have gained a respect for the animals that i feel is un paralleled by anyone who doesnt hunt. Seeing this kindof crap honestly makes me want to fight.
 
I have always wondered about the shows on Tv where they always get a big buck. Money talks , pay enough for a guided hunt and maybe this is how you get set up ??
 
that has to be the worst thing i have ever seen done to an animal besides for the ammo testing of lemas blended metal ammo...:barf: cant stand some people.
 
Sorta separate: Wild critters are easily trained to come to food. I've done that for years with quail, here at the house. I have blues on my porch, right now. My deal is, though, that all my quail hunting is well over a quarter- to half-mile away. And, mostly way out in the back country.

Had two javelina on the porch a month or so back. Raccoons are regular vistors. They smell the seeds from the little bird feeder I have for the finches and sparrows and such.

I know a fair number of folks who feed deer in their back yards. Rattle a coffee can with corn in it, and here comes Bambi. But, again, these "pets" don't get shot.

A love of welfare doesn't seem limited to Homo Sap. :D

Art
 
Video worked fine for me. It's appaling to see Jimmy in that setting. Sum bich just lost me as a fan.

I believe in fair chase, no pens or darn drugged dear for me. That aint hunting in my opinion.
 
There's a fishing buisness called whitewater out here. They supply most the trout to local lakes. They have a few small ponds. The trout there get fattened up then put in the fishin' pond, no food. Went there once with grandpa (80 with parkinsons and a swimmingpool/fishing hole with sidewalk seamed nice) I literally caught fish on a bare hook, they were starved and crowded so they would strike at anything:fire: . It made me sick to think that people called that fishing:barf: . A stocked lake is about the same as fishing in farm country, well feed deer that overpopulate, raising the odds. The lakes stocked would be stripped dry of fish in a week or two, big difference from hunting.

But this caged slaughtering reminded me of Whitewater.
 
All of our guys here at the shop thought the video was sickening. It gives the anti's a good weapon to blast all hunting. That's not hunting. If we don't police ourselves, somebody will step in and do it for us. That will be the undoing of hunting. We must use a little sense now and again. My 2 cents.
 
Amazing that such stupid people still exist and cause problems for the rest of us. If people don't pay the money to go, these places cannot stay in business... in theory (anyway). :(
 
Teddy Gentry of CW music team Montgomery Gentry was convicted of bow shooting a caged bear in Minnesota I think. They must have free range regs, in Minnesota. I think Texas reigns tops as the most perverted hunting state and it will take some policing in the ranks to get this crap cleaned up.
 
Troy Gentry plead guilty to a federal misdemeanor of falsely tagging a captive bear, that he shot in a three acre enclosure on a game farm, as a wild bear. He was also charged with a felony Lacey Act violation that was derivative from the false tagging charge. That charge was dismissed by the prosecutor in exchange for the guilty plea on the misdemeanor. The plea deal requires Gentry to pay a $15,000 fine, forfeit the bear and the bow used to shoot the animal, and to give up hunting, fishing and trapping in Minnesota for five years. (That last provision has consequences outside MN that his attorney will try to avoid at his sentencing in the future.)

The indictment alleged that Gentry and the game farm owner conspired to videotape the kill and edit the tape to make it appear to be a "fair chase" hunting situation. (No, it's not a federal crime to make phony videotapes. It's included in the indictment to show the motivation for the alleged crimes.)

The game farm owner was charged in the same indictment as Gentry with two other Lacey Act violations, for guiding clients to hunt bears in a wildlife management area where bear hunting was prohibited. He plead guilty to those charges.

You can read a news account of the pleas here: http://www.startribune.com/462/story/838543.html
 
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My understanding is that the problem wasnt the shooting of the caged bear. The problem occured when he tried to tag it as a free ranging bear.
 
Sympatheic

What used to be a simple thing...a Texas Hunting License, isn't anymore. They run your record to make sure you don't have any charge pending. illegally (but voluntarily) using your social security number. You must sign it under penalty of law. It has a document number, but the MLD tags ask for your LICENSE number, which probably is the same thing, but who knows?

Texas has three or four regions with different regulations, and inside those regions the counties may differ, or not, most places, but not all, you might or might not have to make sure the bucks have a minimum inside antler spread.

Make a mistake, they arrest you, fine you, go to court, loose guns, truck, gear and can't own a gun or hunt ever again.

So I'm sympathetic. He might have gotten the bear down and tried to figure out the system and TAGGED it, by mistake. I have all kinds of tags around the edge of my hunting document, none of which we used shooting MLD deer, some of which are required otherwise. And the instructions are vague. That's not THEIR problem. It's YOURS. And as soon as you shoot you are supposed to sit down and do the states paperwork, but NOT before.
 
I think the best thing to stop bad hunting behavior is hunter education classes. Here in California you are required to take the course before you can get a licence. I think educating people will help prevent this kind of stuff. At least it will help. OF course dumb rich people will always do dumb things. Shooting druged deer in a cage is easy, that makes it not fun, and not hunting. The fun I have in hunting is the time I spend stalking, waiting, enjoying nature, the kill is not a big part of the enjoyment atleast for me. That's why many people I know go out "hunting" but they're really just taking their gun for a walk:)
 
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