HK 91 .308: Home Defense

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When I was younger, I would have nodded my head in agreement as I read this. These days, if my life depended on it I’d beat them with a bar of gold if that’s all I had. Heck, I have to have MRI’s every year that cost more than that and when I leave the building, the money is gone, not returned to me ever, in any condition. That’s also just so I might be able to live a little longer or not an instant life saving measure, in and of itself.

That is your preference.
If all I had was a an A.H.Fox shotgun yeah I'd use it. And cry while the officer threw it into the back of the SUV.
But I have lesser valued rifles/shotguns that I'd sacrifice. Watching an SKS or a 870 get tossed into the SUV would be less troubling.
 
That is your preference.
If all I had was a an A.H.Fox shotgun yeah I'd use it. And cry while the officer threw it into the back of the SUV.
But I have lesser valued rifles/shotguns that I'd sacrifice. Watching an SKS or a 870 get tossed into the SUV would be less troubling.

You are absolutely right. Different strokes for different folks. I have some stuff I take very good care of not because they are worth a lot of money but because of sentimental value and have turned a $30,000 racecar engine into scrap metal, just having fun...some people would say I might as well have burned the money, then go loose thousands in an RV, boat or casino...

If you would cringe at a $2000 rifle tossed into the back of a Tahoe, you wouldn’t want to hang out with the guys that serve our Country, they are just tools to them.

This is several hundred thousand dollars worth of firearms. With the cheap stuff on top..

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So will 9mm, .223 or just about any other caliber suitable for home defense.


I see your point.

Its either over penetration or a weak caliber...?

I think .32 acp would not over penetrate.


To be honest I think the debate on over penetration is overrated:Ammo and sho selection should take care of it.


As JShirley puts it: the ergos.

That is also my issue and rather issue with HK91.

Rest if it comes to the decision of taking a shot at someone it better be a round to out the hostile down. I do not think it will be difficult to defend why you shot an intruder with a 308 rather than say 45.
 
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If I have to shoot, 0-7 yards a pistol something please. 10 yards out to less than 50 make it an 870 or Benelli 12 gauge for me. 25 to 200 an AK or AR carbine will do, a well at up AR pushes that to 1000 feet. After that and less than 800 yards a well set up battle rifle is the ticket. A well set up HK 91 is good from 75 yards to 600 yards, and decisive. It works even closer if stripped down or reddotted with the stock shortened. Go to Mexico and tell me what distance and what conditions you want to fight against the govt. HK 91 !
 
It's far from ideal IMO, but in a time like right now you go with what you've got. An HK 91 beats a bolt action, a sharp stick, or harsh language.
 
It's far from ideal IMO, but in a time like right now you go with what you've got. An HK 91 beats a bolt action, a sharp stick, or harsh language.


Aaaah man, well HK91 beats lots of firearms. Its not it its limitations to inflict an injury to neutralize a hostile a concern. Rather, its overkill is at issue for concerns of over penetration and noise.

When I started ready the responses I was leaning to agree until down the thread Jshirley and other begins to clear that up.

Thus, minus Ergos, I think you are sorted for any hairy situation with HK91 where rifle is required or preferred.
 
If I have to shoot, 0-7 yards a pistol something please. 10 yards out to less than 50 make it an 870 or Benelli 12 gauge for me. 25 to 200 an AK or AR carbine will do, a well at up AR pushes that to 1000 feet. After that and less than 800 yards a well set up battle rifle is the ticket. A well set up HK 91 is good from 75 yards to 600 yards, and decisive. It works even closer if stripped down or reddotted with the stock shortened. Go to Mexico and tell me what distance and what conditions you want to fight against the govt. HK 91 !

Big home that..Government's home or yours?
 
Context is everything. “Home defense” might mean keeping multiple rifle-armed opponents from getting into a position to breach the home’s exterior. If one’s opponents are shooting into the home, while using motor vehicles as cover, 7.62 NATO might be a desirable cartridge to use to defend the home.

Our present home is a thin-skinned bungalow, on a small lot, inside a small city, that is surrounded by a sprawling mega-city, Houston, Texas. My wife and her siblings jointly own a parcel of land, one county to the north. What would be my wife’s family’s weekend/vacation home, had it not been ruined by three floods, and then torched by an arsonist*, in the Nineties, is on a slope, in a heavily-wooded area. Defending that location, whether the structure is re-built, or not, might best be done with tools having considerable range and penetration. My wife and sister-in-law have said they have heard what they believed to be rapid rifle fire, in large volume, from the woods behind this parcel of land. Poachers’ blinds have been found, on the property, not far from the house. I have been armed with a rifle, chambered for .308 Winchester, at times, while visiting that location.

Unknown persons tried to steal a substantial portable building, from that land, after Hurricane Harvey. They were thwarted by their large vehicle being stuck in the mud, as evidenced by the huge ruts we found. It could have been interesting, had we arrived while that was happening.

I have never owned an HK long gun, but, did own HK pistols, in the Eighties, and found them to be quite well-made. In a historical context, I know the G3 to be a rugged weapon. So, well, yes, an HK 91 would be a relevant home defense weapon, in such places as rural east Montgomery County, Texas.

*My late father-in-law had received threats, with ultra-right overtones, in the past. Ironically, he had to leave Poland, and then Czechoslovakia, after WW II, because he was anti-communist, and in the USA was active in the Republican party, but he was targeted by haters, who disapproved of his owning land in rural east Texas.
 
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