HK VP9 trigger versus Glocks?

[Ignition Override]

Might consider a third handgun in the near-term. My primaries are Sig P229 and CZ PO1.

Just tried a Glock, only a few rds.

I've read numerous places and heard guys like Colin Noir etc on Youtube describe liking the VP9's trigger (more than the HK P30's SA),

----but how do you Like stock VP9s versus a basic 9mm or .40 cal. Glock trigger?



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[JeeperCreeper]

Many consider an ideal striker fired trigger to be: light, crisp, with a short reset and minimal takeup.

For those, the finest strikers will generally be agreed upon (or at least mentioned often) to be: HK VP9, Walther PPQ, and the budget clone Canik TP9sf. I'm sure others may add more such as the CZ P10c.

Most modern striker guns have decent enough triggers, but might not be great. But they can be improved via aftermarket or just ignored as triggers are only one aspect of a handgun.

I know that's all common knowledge, but I only say it as in all my journeys, I often hear things like "The VP9 has a much better trigger than [handgun brand x] but...'

So if you're looking at strictly trigger, then the VP9 is tough to beat. But other opinions will roll in, most for good reason.

I find the Glock trigger to be functional, but squishy and creepy. But I think the 4th gen is better than the 3rd, and 5th better than the 4th. Could be mental, could be the grip, could be the trigger, I dunno.

 

[M1key]

All my Glocks are Gen3 and a few of them actually have nice crisp triggers: wife's G19, my G29, and a few others. I have a Steyr which is too light with no audible or tactile reset to speak of. The Canik I sold because it had too light of a trigger and did not stage to my liking; ditto the pre-cocked Walther Creed. I think I have dry fired the HK, but not shot one. Same with the Sig 320.

Anyway, I think too many manufacturers are going the way of light triggers for what is supposed to be a defense pistol. Fine for matches, competition, range guns and the like. But, I see the trend causing a potential problem in an actual SD shooting. (Hold it right there! BANG!...oops)

I understand the Canik TFX had a voluntary recall that came on the heels of the Sig "fiasco". Just sayin'...

JMO as an instructor.

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[sigarms228]

IMO your best bet would be to dry fire a couple and compare for yourself unless the gun stores around you don't allow that, though most around here do but not all.

I have the PPQ, VP9, and Gen 2 Glock 19. The VP9 has a really nice trigger and it breaks a little bit forward more than most which I like. I find my Glock 19 trigger to be pretty nice too and I think it is ideal for a self defense pistol with a trigger pull around 6 LBs. I have shot various Glocks and IMO, at least the ones I tried, the trigger was fine. The early older M&Ps however had a pretty bad trigger though IMO, at least the ones I tried.

For myself and my needs I found working on proper trigger control and especially a good grip made a bigger difference in accuracy than a better trigger along with pistols that fit my hands/fingers optimally.

 

[JR24]

The VP9 is likely better, or at least considered thus by many. I find it equal to Glock in my hands.

The PPQ is the only striker trigger I consider superior (maybe the Canick once I actually shoot it), the others such as Glock, XD, Ruger, Beretta, CZ and Sig are the same to me.

M&P stands out as the worst for me. Yes even with APEX and even the 2.0. I hate the hinge.

My preference is for the Glock. I like the reset and the break but its probably mostly cause I have the most trigger time on it.

 

[straightshooterjake]

I like the VP9 quite well. The triggers are good compared to the other striker fired pistols, and their configurable grip panels fit lots of different hands. Also, the overall build quality of the H&K pistols is good. I recommend that anyone looking for a polymer striker fired pistol should at least try the VP9.

Glocks are also good guns, but the big advantage Glock has is breadth of aftermarket parts. If you want lots of options for customization, or you like to make a project out of your gun, then Glock is the way to go. For the VP9, there are very few aftermarket parts. But in my opinion, they're not needed, because a factory stock VP9 is quite nice.

 

[JohnKSa]

The VP9 I handled had a very nice trigger, definitely better than a stock Glock trigger. But to tell the truth, the SIG P320 I handled had a better trigger than the VP9...

 

[stchman]

If one wants a Glock with a good trigger, go get the G34. The PPQ has a better trigger than the VP9, but the VP9 IMO is a better built gun.

 

[tbob38]

I have several Glocks and one VP9. I like the VP9 trigger better than the Glocks (although I like good Glock triggers quite well too). For concealed IWB carry, I think the Glock is safer for reholstering. When I carry the VP9, I am VERY careful when inserting the gun in the holster. The Glocks too, but not so much.

 

[d2wing]

I like the trigger much better on the VP9 but I have only fired one Glock, it was mushy and slower to me. It is very hard to beat the VP9 for out of the box non competition gun in my opinion. Better than my USP.

 

[jjones45]

If one wants a Glock with a good trigger, go get the G34. The PPQ has a better trigger than the VP9, but the VP9 IMO is a better built gun.

I agree except I feel the ppq is better quality than the vp9. Here’s an in-depth review of the two pistols and their build. I pretty much agree with everything this guy says, though I’m sure some don’t. http://www.defensereview.com/walthe...ker-fired-combattactical-9mm-pistol-face-off/
Ppq hands down has the best trigger in the striker fired gun world. The vp9 trigger is better than a stock Glock trigger unquestionably. But I’ve come to realize one does not need the lightest clean breaking trigger to shoot well and be effective. I’ve shot several different striker fired guns in competition and classes over the years and did pretty well with all of them, at least well enough to defend myself and other if need be. This whole trigger and bore axis craze has taken over the gun community

 

[Zaydok Allen]

I like my VP9. But I don't dislike Glock trigger.

Given a choice I'll always reach for the VP.

 

[tarosean]

owned a VP9 when they were first released and own a number of glocks. Stock the better trigger is the VP9.

 

[Polar Express]

I have owned, I think, 5 Glocks. Still own 3 (although one is my wifes - her choice) Growing up shooting single action autos, (mostly 1911), I really don't like the Glock triggers, any generation. The 3 we have now, all have Ghost parts in them, and that made them much better, but I still don't like them much.

I bought a VP9, to try, and as soon as I shot it, I got a 2nd. Love that gun! I actually like the 'feel' of the Walther PPQ trigger just a little bit better than the VP, but... when I tried both, side by side, I shot the VP so much better, it wasn't even close.

In my role as an instructor, I care more that you have a reliable tool that you will train with, and practice with, than I care what you choose to buy.
As a consumer, my choices are heavily influenced by which tool works naturally for me, although I do believe there is a high value in making sure that we understand and practice the fundamentals, so we are proficient with whatever tool is available.

To bring my post back to the question posed by the OP; for me, I have a significant preference for the VP triggers over the offerings in the Glock lineup, and that includes all of the aftermarket mods that I have personally tried. A friend of mine does have a Pyramid option in one of his Glocks, and that was the best Glock-option that I've ever fired, but I still prefer the OE trigger on the VP.

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[SeanSw]

It's better. I could settle on another striker fired pistol but Glocks don't fit me well and the vp9 does so it was an easy decision.

 

[CopperFouling]

VP9. I've tried Glock triggers, but they are not as crisp as the HK.

 

[stchman]

I agree except I feel the ppq is better quality than the vp9. Here’s an in-depth review of the two pistols and their build. I pretty much agree with everything this guy says, though I’m sure some don’t. http://www.defensereview.com/walthe...ker-fired-combattactical-9mm-pistol-face-off/
Ppq hands down has the best trigger in the striker fired gun world. The vp9 trigger is better than a stock Glock trigger unquestionably. But I’ve come to realize one does not need the lightest clean breaking trigger to shoot well and be effective. I’ve shot several different striker fired guns in competition and classes over the years and did pretty well with all of them, at least well enough to defend myself and other if need be. This whole trigger and bore axis craze has taken over the gun community

The VP9 has steel sights instead of cheap polymer sights like the PPQ. The PPQ rattles more than the VP9. The VP9 guide rod is steel vs. PPQ plastic(probably a non-factor).

I have owned both the VP9 and PPQ. I sold the PPQ and kept the VP9.

 

[jjones45]

The VP9 has steel sights instead of cheap polymer sights like the PPQ. The PPQ rattles more than the VP9. The VP9 guide rod is steel vs. PPQ plastic(probably a non-factor).

I have owned both the VP9 and PPQ. I sold the PPQ and kept the VP9.

I was more talking about the build quality, not really the sights and guide rod. The Q appears to be better machined than the vp9 on the inside in my opinion. The spot welds and such on the vp9 are kind of what I’m talking about. I’m the opposite, I owned both and now only own 2 ppq’s (5”, 4”). Like I said, I’m sure others would disagree. I still think the vp9 is a good gun though, just not my favorite of the two. I’ve had my fair share of hk’s that rattled when shaken as well, not really a big deal to me