Trade Glock 19 for HK VP9 ? Why, or why not?

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I don't really need any new toys, but as we all know, this is rarely about "need" ;).
I'm down to one Glock these days, but it's a favorite of mine, a pristine,low-miles, gen3 G19 that came out back when they were still doing the Tenifer treatment, and it's fully Austrian, meaning it has the Austrian proof-house stamps on it, and no mention of Smyrna,Ga. anywhere.
Meanwhile, there's a nearly NIB H&K VP9 on my local Armslist that's yanking my chain. The pistol is supposedly near new with box,docs,etc. having had only 2 mags of 9mm. run through it.
The guy's asking $580, but has hinted at being slightly negotiable.
I'd recently posted my Glock up on Armslist, at $500, with box,docs,etc as well as a spare G17 mag, and a factory Glock 33-rounder, when i thought I was on the verge of getting another CZ75, but that fell through and I pulled the ad for the G19, but not before I had a couple serious bites.
So, I'm pretty confident I can get that $500 out of it pretty quick, and hopefully get into the VP9 for maybe $540 (which I think is about my interest level, given that I've seen these brand new on-line for just under $600,delivered).
The Glock has many positives, like extreme reliability, being very simple to work on, having cheap,common mags, being a lighter,more petite package that carries and conceals very well,etc. Also, I'm very comfortable and familiar with Glocks, having purchased my first one back about '85.
And, there's the fact that it's pretty easy to pick up another G17 or 19 pretty inexpensively, as low as $350-400, should I ever wish to.
The positives for the HK are less numerous, basically, the better trigger, the "cool factor" of an HK versus the very common and plain looks of the G19, and the fact that I've never owned and always wanted an HK.
Obviously, 'both" is not an option, or I wouldn't be posing the question:D.
As always, any advice, opinions, info, warnings, personal experiences,etc.etc.
are much appreciated.......
 
I've heard nothing but GOOD about the VP9. You like your Glock but you're clearly willing to give it up. Go ahead.

(Some folks say, "never sell a gun." I say, sell a few and buy better ones!!)
 
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Thanks for the reply,Walt, I was wondering if I was ever going to get one. I posted this question on another forum,AFTER posting it here, and already have TWO PAGES of replies. After dozens of views and three hours here, I have one single reply ( which is oddly typical here :banghead:).
Anyway, you make a good point. What I've dug up on the VP9 has also been very good, and while the Glocks are solid and reliable, they won't have the same quality trigger, ergonmics, or accuracy. They're also boringly common, and are easy to find deals on them in the used market.
After reading some comments, I'm kinda leaning towards just keeping the Glock, and I haven't even run a counter-offer by the guy yet, so the question may just be academic. Tough call.
 
I love my VP9, and I'm not a Glock fan. So for me it would be easy.
 
Well if you want other people to make up your mind for you...I never sell my guns. If I want a new gun, I save up and buy it. No Regrets
 
I'm an HK fan, but IMO the Glock 19 is a great pistol and you will regret trading it off. I did.

I've come to the conclusion that HK is where it's at for .45 auto as far as reliability and accuracy, and the Glock 19 is the ultimate personal protection 9mm.
 
The Glock 19 is a very good pistol but honestly most Glocks on the whole are not a good fit for me ergonomically. The HK P30 has a much more comfortable feel to it, even more so with the VP9. What I would go with would be the VP9 just to try something different.
 
Well if you want other people to make up your mind for you...

If I wanted someone to 'make up my mind' for me, I'd have phrased it that way. Or flipped a coin.
I'm asking for opinions and perspectives,especially from those that have experience with the HK. This is a common,viable, and perfectly acceptable technique that we all routinely employ, in one way or another, when making countless purchases, in everything from guns to refrigerators to cars. It's why Consumer Reports magazine exists, it's why there are customer reviews everywhere from Amazon to Sportsmanguide. And also it's one reason many people consult this and other internet forums. :neener:


Keep the Glock and just buy a VP9 and fuggetaboutit.

OR......you could actually read the OP before commenting, paying particular attention to the second-to-last sentence where I said "both is not an option".
Thanks again to Walt,DP03, PO2Hammer,and Bannockburn for the solid responses.
 
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HOOfan_1 said:
I never sell my guns. If I want a new gun, I save up and buy it. No Regrets

You must be either luckier, more discerning, or just more-easily satisified than many gun owners here -- if every gun you buy suits you so well that you never feel the need to later sell it to find something better.

It seems you've reached a happy place, and I salute you.
 
You must be either luckier, more discerning, or just more-easily satisified than many gun owners here -- if every gun you buy suits you so well that you never feel the need to later sell it to find something better.

It seems you've reached a happy place, and I salute you.

I've heard too many regret stories, but yeah I can't think of any guns which I have even wanted to sell. Buying new also keeps the gun industry vibrant.

That's my advice which I thought was welcome. Don't set yourself up for regret.
 
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What role does you G19 fill? For carry it is a slightly better size than the HK. However, I like my VP9 more than my glocks. Personally I'd just save up and buy a VP 9. I know you said its not an option but rarely is that true in the long run. If money is truly that tight then I'd really lean away from the trade as a new gun means new mags, new holster, and for me typically new sights.
 
Go for it.
I have never owned either but I suscibe to the creed that life is is too short.
If your family is taken care of and the bill are paid indulge your self.
fwiw I hear good things about theVP 9
 
Thanks again for the replies,guys. HOOfan makes a good point about 'regret'. I do like the G19, a lot, and it's my last remaining Glock. And if i were to let it go and later want another, I'd want this EXACT one (gen 3,w/ tenifer, Austrian proof marks), which won't likely be so readily available.
But (to answer Girodin's question) all it's doing is pretty much taking up space in it's case. It isn't my EDC, or even kept ready in a HD capacity, it's just another toy that I "got", and I have that "new toy itch".
And even if I just LOVE the VP9, I'll still miss the G19. And, though reports on the VP9 are almost uniformly positive, it is a very new product design (as I understand), and Glock's design is now well established with any bugs worked out, and Glock's after-market and customer support is well established. Plus, Glock's HQ is only about 90 minutes from me. (but now that I think about it, there's an HK manufacturing facility in Columbus, lots closer than Atl.)
I'm not sure yet, but I'm leaning towards holding pat, unless the guy were to drop his asking price by a little more than I believe he's willing to.
Anyway, thanks again to all for the input and tolerance ! :D
 
Sounds like you may get the itch for a particular Glock 19 again at some point in time and that may be hard to find one in the condition your's is.

HK VP9 are everywhere these days so it would not be a like a once in great while opportunity if you don't go for it.

HK VP9 is a great pistol. I have one but favor my Walther PPQ over it a little bit.

Downside to VP9 is magazines are fairly expensive and can be as hard to find as fresh Egg Nog on the Fourth of July.
 
HOOfan_1 said:
I've heard too many regret stories, but yeah I can't think of any guns which I have even wanted to sell. Buying new also keeps the gun industry vibrant.

I regret a few I've sold or traded, but have been quite pleased that many of the ones I bought and then sold (or traded away) are gone, and better guns frequently took their place. (The three I most regret were sold during a time of financial need, and it was the best option at the time. Looking back, I'd do it again. )

But buying and selling/trading has allowed me to explore a wider array of guns, and my "keepers" have finally begun to come down to nine or ten that I'll probably keep until my son inherits them... As for the many, many others -- good riddance.
 
Well, normally I wouldn't make that change, the VP9 is another HK that just doesn't fit me, wish it did, but what can you do.

BUT, since you don't really use the Glock and you clearly have the "new gun itch" I'd just go ahead and say go for it. It'll bug you constantly until you scratch it.

You'll be able to find another Glock 19 (even JUST like the one you currently have) at a later date, in all likelyhood.
 
It may be unscientific, but when making that decision I listen to my gut. There have been a couple of times where I was going to make a trade but something didn't feel right. I held off until I was sure, and was glad i didn't pull the trigger. If you're not sure, you may want to wait. I may be wrong, but I believe VP9's are newer guns. One of the questions I have is whether there'll be more used ones available as more are sold. The price for the VP9 you're looking at is a good price, but I'm willing to bet you'll be able to find another used one at that price in the future.

Edit: I'm looking at Armslist, and see a NIB VP9 for $599. I don't know that a price of $540 to $580 for a used gun that sells for $599 new is worth rushing into.
 
Well, normally I wouldn't make that change, the VP9 is another HK that just doesn't fit me, wish it did, but what can you do.
With 9 grip panels to mix and match, how is that even possible?
 
I got to handle a VP9 a couple of months ago and really liked the feel and the trigger pull. Was starting to think about what I might sell or trade myself. A couple of nights ago, I got to handle another VP9. Was not nearly as impressed with that unit. It still felt fine, but the trigger really didn't feel good enough for me to part with a current property. The VP9 has gotten some good press and sounds like H&K might have a real winner. I've had my G19 for almost 20 years. It's been a great carry gun. I don't see the VP9 doing anything that would make me want to refit for a whole new carry gun. But that's me. If you go with the VP9, PLEASE let us know how you like it.
 
I've owned both, and the VP9 is a superior pistol. Only down side is mags will cost double what blocks do.
 
Hello!

I wasn't a diehard Glock fan due to the hump on the grip causing it to point high for me. However I am a big fan of the Gen II G17 and G19 As I feel the front strap is more comfortable and these were the only model to be 100%, the other models and gens were not so. These are where "Glock Perfection" was established. I elected to carry my personal Gen II as a duty gun in the PD.

The VP9 was an instant attraction to me when I picked one up and it went home with me. I put the small backstrap and side panels on and it is perfect for my hand, fitting me just as the Browning Hi-Power, SIG P-226 E2, and factory magnas and grip adapter on a S&W K frame.

Trigger was much smoother than the Glocks and seems a bit more accurate as well. The Paddle mag release is just right as I prefer to use my trigger finger to actuate it. ( RH)
 
It's an upgrade I've already made. Not from a 19, but from a 17, and I couldn't be happier. I pretty much like everything about the HK better. The fit in my hand, the feel, the mag release, great factory sights (I got the factory night sights), and most especially the trigger. The more expensive magazines are about the only negative I can think of, but they are also far easier to load, a plus.
 
I mainly shoot Glocks. My daily CCW is a G17 that has had the slide milled to wear a Trijicon RMR and it has a Fulcrum trigger kit installed. I recently bought a VP9 for my wife. I must say that if I decided to get the VP9 milled for a red dot sight it would probably take the place of my G17. The trigger is the best I've ever felt on a striker fired pistol. My advice to you is sell your G19 gen3, buy the VP9, buy a G19 gen4 :)
 
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