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Hoarding is getting to me!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by exbrit49, Jan 28, 2013.

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  1. pa350z

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    I got caught low supplied during the panic of 2008-2009. Once things lightened up, I took to advice my pop gave me years ago, whenever you are out and about, pick up a box of ammo. Well, that advice worked well. At this point, I have no "real" need for ammo at this time. Also, I picked up the firearms post 08-09 that I wanted at reasonable prices. So, I have no need for any new firearms. I would suggest that those now suffering start stocking up after this panic subsides. IMHO, it will subside and things will come back to a some sort of new norm. Not sure you will be able to get 9mm WWB at $23.00 at wally world. Will probably be a few bucks more, but that is capitalism.
     
  2. Sauer Grapes

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    Sorry to hear about the Mrs. I know it's frustrating. I just bought a Mark III 22 pistol. Guess what, I have very little ammo! I got caught flat footed not thinking about 22 ammo going scarce. It's the only thing I can't hand load....:banghead:
     
  3. c4v3man

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    You can still find .22 online, but it may be match grade expensive stuff. That being said, even match grade (or match "practice" grade) .22's are cheaper than most... Should buy several bricks to help reduce the shipping costs.
     
  4. NormB

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    When I retired - US Army - here in 1997 I had conversations on line with guys who had been shooting and collecting for decades. One guy said he had, easily, over a million rounds of ammunition at his house somewhere in SoCal. I remember thinking this was nuts.

    Then I started shooting more, buying guns I couldn't while moving around the world. Friend of mine suggested buying 1,000 rounds for each gun I bought. I found it was really easy to blow through that in a month's time with only semi-autos and revolvers and bolt guns if I went two or three times a month. More if I took my son or daughter. Bought a progressive reloading press to feed the subguns/machine guns, reloading components by the thousands. I've reloaded over 100,000 rounds since then and bought tens of thousands more. It adds up. I can shoot for a day with friends at steel to 1200 yards and easily go through 300 rounds, more if we do a little pistol shooting.

    Can't say how much I have on hand, but I don't consider myself a "hoarder."

    Someone buys a couple cases of ammo I don't think of it as hoarding.

    Someone buys 20,000 primers because they're "on sale" and available and he reloads for his pistol club or high school Palma team that's a summer's training. Not "hoarding."

    I call it all Laissez-faire free market enterprise. You know, what communists call "capitalism."

    I call it an opportunity for manufacturers to start up another shift and get those presses cranking out more finished rounds to grease the skids of Obama's - ahem, the American - economy.
     
  5. BP44

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    I'm truly sorry for the situation you found yourself in, in the future I'm sure you will be more prepared.
     
  6. tomrkba

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    Purchase ammo from internet stores. Natchez was advertising 22 LR in their catalog. Get on 10+ ammo sites and add 22 LR ammo to your wishlist with instant email notification. Keep the credit card handy and buy it as soon as the email lands on your phone.
     
  7. larryh1108

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    Correct, not hoarding.

    There is a difference between being well prepared and hoarding.
    Being well prepared is everything mentioned here. All good suggestions.

    Hoarding is having more than enough (by your average usage) to get thru this mini-crisis or a few years but as soon as the crisis hits you go clean out all the stock from the local retailers. Instead of smiling because you are well prepared by planning you compound the problem and buy up everything in sight just because you can, not because you need to. There is a big difference yet everyone who has a substantial inventory thinks this is directed at them. It isn't. You planned. You'll have plenty to wait it out. You did good. You beat the system.
     
  8. Hoghunter

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    Excellent post! I agree 1000%. Planning ahead always beats the whining you hear from those who expect someone else to provide for their every need (like some of the recent voters).
     
  9. jasonmha

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    I love how people who were caught short in previous shortages are busting your chops about current people being caught short now.

    And how everybody who has been buying a box or so every now and then think you are attacking them.

    With friends like this, who needs Feinstien?
     
  10. ole farmerbuck

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    That's pretty good.
     
  12. Hokkmike

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    Let's see....you are only upset because YOU don't have a stash, right?
     
  13. exbrit49

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    More from the OP

    • Several of THR Guys offered to get some .22 LR for the wife and I want to say a big THR “Thank you”, Most used a PM to contact me and I really appreciated these offers. As they offered it privately I won’t acknowledge the names on the Post but THANKS GUYS. Those were really wonderful gestures of sharing.
    We declined all the offers but did try the 380 today, she can shoot about 25 rounds before it hurts her hands but she was happy to be able to have a fallback.
    • Posts 32 and 50 got what I was trying to say. However I stick by my original comments, if you aren’t going to shoot it, then its hoarding!
    • Yes there is a difference in being prepared and hoarding, for those that are prepared, Well Done! That was said with no sarcasm, it was a genuine compliment.
    I thought I had covered all my requirements, but yes I did overlook the lowly .22 Shame on me! I have talked to the LGS and he is going to try to save me a couple boxes a week but is not sure when he will get them. As a side note, he isn’t a happy camper either. He has maintained very reasonable prices and said that he was mad that several locals had basically cleaned out his entire stock of primers before he had advised his employees to not let anyone hog up the entire supply. Too late, one of the other employees let it all go. What really made him mad was that the “Entrepreneur “decided he could sell them at a nice profit at a gun show! Now the LGS is rationing every item of ammo and primers, when he can get some more.
    As noted in my original post I am VERY well stocked on everything else and I will share what happened when I went to talk to the LGS. I picked up an additional 2 cans of Unique. As I was talking to the store owner a guy came up to the counter and asked if there was any more Unique as there was none on the shelf. I had taken the last two cans. I reviewed what I had on hand and what I really needed and decided to let the other guy have one can, as he was totally out. It felt good to be able to help another re-loader. I could not buy it just to let it sit on the shelf for a year or more. while he had none!
    I think most of the readers know what I was trying to say in the original post, it seems to have struck a raw nerve with a few. Guess if the shoe fits………
     
  14. Jim Mac

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    Walmart actually had .22 in stock this afternoon. So ammo is out there, you just have to be there at the right time. They also got a dpms ar in last friday. Only one, it sold before it got into the display case.
    When 8mm mauser started to dry up, I stocked up for my two turks. Then when a guy was selling 300 rounds locally cheap I bought, Not really hoarding, but accumulating, then 340 rounds were 80 bucks turns into twice the price, I buy when I can find it cheap. Same with the 2000+ rounds of .22's + magnums I found at a yard sale. Guy had a ammo can in the garage. I asked if the can was for sale, He opens it and its full mostly of .22's (over 2000), plus a hundred cci magnums, a box of 32-20 and 30 carbine. he goes how about 20 bucks! How could I refuse? jim
     
  15. BudW

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    how much 22 would it take to call someone a hoarder, some seen this coming and bought
     
  16. Lex Luthier

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    There are some commodities other than steel and lead that are worth stocking up on.

    Security based items are first and they include weapons and ammo, followed closely by sustenance and sanitation. Once a stocker-upper feels they have enough tactical gear and equipment to defend their family and property, the foodstuffs and items like bleach, toilet paper, etc. are next. One should have enough supplies to last a month or more until rule of law returns.

    I believe most collectors have an unbalanced collection. Weapons are but one worthy aspect to consider.
     
  17. larryh1108

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    You are not a hoarder if you saw this coming and bought all you could while planning for it. Even if you have 50k rounds of .22LR on hand, you still aren't a hoarder.

    Now, from the post above:

    In my eyes, you'd be a hoarder if you had the same amount of ammo as was just talked about and you went to Walmart, saw they had a shipment in and you bought it all up on the spot. You bought it because you could, not because you needed it. You didn't care if someone wanted a brick for whatever reason. Let's say he got his first .22 last week for his 21st birthday. He goes to Walmart and the shelf that was well stocked an hour before is now empty because one customer purchased all of it.

    That's what I saw in '08/'09. That's what threads like these are referring to. You don't hoard if you are well prepared, even if you have 100k of ammo on hand. You hoard if you buy every box you see even though you won't need it for years, in times of shortages. Leaving some for the other guy doesn't fit in their psyche.
     
  18. cslinger

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    Proud hoarder here :D Ok more of a .22 accumulator. Its my favorite round so I have accumulated a few boxes here and there over the years. Funny thing is I have only bought bulk (500 rounds) centerfire ammo twice in my life.

    Exbrit you have pm
     
  19. skeezer1

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    49 I learned a long time ago that a person has to be ready for what is to come. I do hand load for R, P, SG. With that said I also buy factory ammo when I find a good deal. Maybe U need to learn to be a little better prepared. No offence ment.
     
  20. 45_auto

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    That pretty much describes about 99.9% of all my purchases. Only things I really need are a couple of bottles of water and about 1000 calories of food a day. Lots of homeless people down here live outside year round, so clothing and shelter aren't really "needs" in this area.

    Maybe if you could post how much ammo someone "needs", we would know when to stop buying it and leave the rest for you.

    From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hoard

    Sorry, the above doesn't sound like a bad thing to me. I don't understand why you're so upset over people accumulating ammo for future use.
     
  21. accrhodes

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    I saw this coming years ago. I purchased 12K rounds of .22LR when it was $11.99 per 550 rounds. I hope that this will last me an additional 10 years. I don't consider myself a hoarder at all. I looked at it as an investment because I knew the prices were going to go up.
    I think everyone should have at least a 2 year supply of ammo on hand for shortages like this.

    Just my .02
     
  22. BSA1

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    Talk about calling the kettle black!!!

    O.P. states “• Posts 32 and 50 got what I was trying to say. However I stick by my original comments, if you aren’t going to shoot it, then its hoarding.”
    But then he says “I am VERY well stocked on everything else and I will share what happened when I went to talk to the LGS. I picked up an additional 2 cans of Unique.”

    SO how about letting the rest of us in on when you are going to shoot your “VERY well stocked” supply of ammunition and gun powder?
     
  23. RetiredUSNChief

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    Pardon me, but I don't believe the majority of such postings are that at all. In fact, several of us have stated we'd gladly help a brother out in our postings...myself included.

    There is a difference between hoarding and simply being prepared, and that's what most of us have been saying.

    :)
     
  24. kimbershot

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    never been a boy scout, always been prepared.
     
  25. Arkansas Paul

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    Great 9th post.
    I read all the others too, even though it took a really long time to do it. No posts since 2006, and then a whopping 3 in 2013. And all 3 were argumentative about ammo prices or hoarding ammo. Hmmmmm.
     
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