Home Defense Shotgun

[SecuritySixShooter]

So ive advanced my search for a home defense shotgun. What im really looking for is a short barrelled ( 18.5-20" barrel) that is designed for 00 buck loads and slugs. Do you have any recommendations?

 

[Spec ops Grunt]

Mossberg 590

 

[beerslurpy]

Saiga 12.

 

[Deer Hunter]

I'd look at a coach gun of some sort. A short double barreled shotgun, like the Stoeger coach gun. It'll handle anything you feed it and can take 3" shells.

My theory in choosing a side-by-side over a pump or semi is simple: If you are put in the position where you kill someone out of self defense, and the law comes down onto you hard, what would look worse? Grandpappy's old bird-shooter, or an evil looking pump shotgun with extended mag capacity and a pistol grip stock? That's just my theory. I'm sure if you don't do anything to a pump, you'll be ok. Yet it'll still have that pretty short barrel which may put the jury against you. A 20-24 inch double barrel would be my choice.

 

[_N4Z_]

yep

Remington 870 in 12 guage.

 

[beerslurpy]

Deer hunter, it doesnt matter what gun you use, the justification is the same. Stop listenig to Massad Ayoob.

 

[Deer Hunter]

I was just offering my two cents. Take it or leave it, it wont hurt my feelings a bit. I Was always under the assumption that in a defensive situation a slightly less tactical weapon would look better than an "evil" black weapon. Someone might feel that since you killed the crackhead with your AR-15, then you were just waiting for someone to break in to your house so you can shoot them.

 

[SecuritySixShooter]

Alright so im lookin at the Remington 870 Express Magnum, Mossberg 500 Home Defender, Mossberg 590 or 590a1 (not sure the difference just yet), Benelli Nova Tactical, and a Couch gun of some sort (thanks deer hunter), although the pumps still have my attention. Any others? What are some pluses and negatives of these?

 

[Preacherman]

Actually, Deer Hunter has a point: to the average jury member, an Evil Black Assault Shotgun with all the trimmings looks a whole lot more "dangerous" than a wood-stocked hunting shotgun. A double might look even more innocent than a pump. This is one reason why my HD shotguns still have their wood stocks and fore-ends, albeit with an extended magazine tube (which looks fairly innocuous in the absence of all the other uber-tactical stuff). They are Remington 870's with the 20" IC rifle-sighted barrel, which will pattern buckshot nicely into 8" at my maximum "in-house" range. With half-a-dozen rounds ready to go, I daresay I could argue to my complete satisfaction with any intruder, and still look like a "good ol' boy" to local jury members if need be.

 

[Revolver Justice]

I feel fine with my NEF single-shot 12ga. that my wife bought me aboutnine years ago for our first Christmas. It remains loaded to this day ready to defend harth and home. I have shot many round through it, but for nostalga I still have the box of shells she gave me with it. Those are what stay in it at home.

 

[Fred Fuller]

Our HD shotguns (Remington Express 870s w. 18- 20" RS barrels) are essentially what the local LEOs carry in their cars. How's that gonna look bad in court, using the same 'riot gun' the cops do? In this county NOT shooting housebreakers will get you yelled at by the responding deputies, can't see the DA worrying about it either if it isn't fishy for some other reason.

Pick the most reliable platform that suits you best among the available choices, load it with something heavy enough to do the job (see the thread at http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=182404 for reasons) and shoot it until it is as familiar as a body part and you can hit what you shoot at.

Stay safe,

lpl/nc

 

[50caliber123]

NEF Pardner Protector Pump Shotgun

Has anyone heard of this? I got a catalog in the mail from Gander Mountain. They have this gun for $149.99 anyone know anything about it? I'm not trying to hijack the thread, but I want toknow some details without starting a whole new thread.

 

[fvf]

+1 for the Saiga

Have a Saiga 12K which might fit your criteria

 

[sgist]

" and a Couch gun of some sort (thanks deer hunter)"

That's Coach gun, as in stagecoach, not Couch gun.

 

[AStone]

Our HD shotguns (Remington Express 870s w. 18- 20" RS barrels) are essentially what the local LEOs carry in their cars. How's that gonna look bad in court, using the same 'riot gun' the cops do? ... Pick the most reliable platform that suits you best among the available choices, load it with something heavy enough to do the job (see the thread at http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=182404 for reasons) and shoot it until it is as familiar as a body part and you can hit what you shoot at.

+ 17,023.

My 870P feels (shoots and racks) better than any other shotgun I've handled.

My take is this: if I can't handle it well enough to stop the bg coming through my door,
then I'm not even going to get an opportunity to look the jury in the face to make my case.

Nem

 

[Striker]

870 Remington.

 

[Hhrshooter]

I guess this is a mute point. I feel that the only place for a shotgun or rifle to be used is not in your home but outside your home. I am not going to be replacing items destroyed by me engageing the BG in my home and maybe striking my kids or wife. Now, a pistol is better suited for home protection due to being able to pie the corners, close retention, and various other reasons. I do however agree that there is only one thing in this world that makes an a very distinct sound that would never be confused with anything else and that is a pump shotgun. It will always get the attention it deserves! Now i do recommend taking a course in which you could use simunitions in order to understand the nature of defense and how easy or hard it is to engage a BG. You might be a little surprised....

 

[Jeff Timm]

Has anyone heard of this? I got a catalog in the mail from Gander Mountain. They have this gun for $149.99 anyone know anything about it? I'm not trying to hijack the thread, but I want toknow some details without starting a whole new thread.

Might be a close out or a distributor run, it's not listed on the NEF website,
http://www.hr1871.com/firearms/index.php?cat=3

Geoff
Who favors a Mossberg 500 in 20 Gauge, with a short rifle sight barrel from Numrich.

 

[Dave McCracken]

Ladies and Gennulmen, my $0.02....

Any US made pump is a weapon of great capability, dependability and power suitable for CQB in trained hands.

Get a US made pump, shoot it until it feels like a body part and not a tool. Voila! You and your shotgun are much more likely to resolve crises.

While I prefer the 870, if armed with a 500, 37, 1300 et al, I'm still effective.

Software is mo' crucial than the hardware.

 

[pauli]

Has anyone heard of this? I got a catalog in the mail from Gander Mountain. They have this gun for $149.99 anyone know anything about it? I'm not trying to hijack the thread, but I want toknow some details without starting a whole new thread.

it's a norinco copy of the 870.

 

[4RHeritage]

870 vs 1300

Dave and others who answered 870:

Why do you prefer the 870 to the 1300?

I was thinking of getting a 1300 because it handles mini-shells without mods.

 

[Fred Fuller]

Heritage,

That in itself is not IMHO a good enough reason to select a given make/model. The Mini-shells are still questionable for serious use in a Win 1300 in my limited experience, they didn't function reliably enough in the one I tried them in to consider using for real. There is no real need for them if magazine capacity is the only concern, standard magazines with 4- 7 rounds are plenty for defensive use.

People are fond of 870s because of the track record compiled over more than 50 years of service to many law enforcement agencies and their demonstrated durability and reliability in service, and because of their own experience with them. In private hands and given good care it is unlikely that any individual will wear out an example from Mossberg, Winchester, Ithaca or even Beretta in a lifetime. But the 870 is the proven Energizer Bunny of pumpguns, it just keeps going and going.

lpl/nc

 

[Dave McCracken]

Like Lee said. The 870 is the standard to which all other pumps are held.

The 1300 is a good shotgun.

The mini shells are not a good choice for defense.

A life time shooting will bias one towards what has worked. Despite the claims of other makers, an 870 is darn near always a good answer to any shotgun question.

 

[riverdog]

Preacherman said:

Actually, Deer Hunter has a point: to the average jury member, an Evil Black Assault Shotgun with all the trimmings looks a whole lot more "dangerous" than a wood-stocked hunting shotgun. A double might look even more innocent than a pump. This is one reason why my HD shotguns still have their wood stocks and fore-ends, albeit with an extended magazine tube (which looks fairly innocuous in the absence of all the other uber-tactical stuff). They are Remington 870's with the 20" IC rifle-sighted barrel, which will pattern buckshot nicely into 8" at my maximum "in-house" range. With half-a-dozen rounds ready to go, I daresay I could argue to my complete satisfaction with any intruder, and still look like a "good ol' boy" to local jury members if need be.

My HD shotgun is very similar, an 870 Wingmaster Magnum duck gun with original wood and a 20" RS IC barrel. The barrel was sold as a slug barrel although it's a smooth bore and I've never shot slugs. I recently added a Wilson Combat one round extension which was unnecessary. I may revert back to the standard mag configuration, without the plug. BTW, mine's parkerized, will that get me convicted?

 

[desoto]

I tend to agree with agree with Mr. McCracken's views. Why reinvent the wheel?

Ladies and Gennulmen, my $0.02....

Any US made pump is a weapon of great capability, dependability and power suitable for CQB in trained hands.

Get a US made pump, shoot it until it feels like a body part and not a tool. Voila! You and your shotgun are much more likely to resolve crises.

While I prefer the 870, if armed with a 500, 37, 1300 et al, I'm still effective.