Home invader shot - 911 tape

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http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0409/613305.html

Botetourt Co., VA - Panicked and shaken, a Botetourt County woman waits for help to arrive, just minutes before her husband shoots and kills an intruder. At 10:40 Friday night, dispatchers answered a call from Houston Mines Road.

Jody Hoover - "There is a strange man outside our home, and he's hollering."

Homeowner Jody Hoover didn't stay on the phone long.

Hoover - "I'm going to give you to my wife. I'm going to go get my gun."

Hoover loaded his 12-guage shot gun, as the intruder, Jerry Lee Jones Junior, got restless.

Jody Hoover's Wife - "Bang.. oh my God."

Dispatcher - "Ma'am what's wrong?"

Hoover's wife - "He's trying to break down the door!"

Jones also wasn't making much sense.

Dispatcher - "What's he doing now ma'am?"

Wheeler's Wife - "He's asking what day it is. He's talking something about Vietnam and 1969."

Then Jones' ramblings turned to anger.

Hoover's wife - "Oh my gosh, he's trying to get through the door! You have got to get someone here!"

Then to violence, as he picked up a chair from the back porch.

Hoover's wife - "He's got the chair in his hand! He's counting, oh my God, oh my God! He's getting ready to come in.”

Dispatcher - "Ma'am?"

Wife - "Yes!"

Dispatcher - "What happened?

Wife - "He tried to come in and my husband shot him. And he's still moving!"

Deputies were just around the corner.

Dispatcher - "I want you to tell your husband to put the gun down."

Hoover's wife - But what if he tries to come in and attack us!

Dispatcher - "M'am, if he shot him, he's not going to get up. Tell your husband to put the gun down please."

Authorities say Jones lived about two miles away from the Hoover's home. Their investigation revealed that a man named Joe Harper dropped him off there, after Jones became violent and tried to grab the steering wheel. As we've reported, the Sheriff's Office determined this was a justifiable homicide.

 

[98C5]

Made Fox news this morning too. Unfortunately, they said Vermont, not Virginia.

 

[TexasRifleman]

Dispatcher - "I want you to tell your husband to put the gun down."

Hoover's wife - But what if he tries to come in and attack us!

Dispatcher - "M'am, if he shot him, he's not going to get up. Tell your husband to put the gun down please."

I want some of that clairvoyant training they give 9-1-1 operators.

I'd LOVE to be able to see the future too.

Because as we all know, no one EVER survives a single gun shot.....

 

[The Deer Hunter]

In all honesty it sounds more like a tragedy than anything else. Don't get me wrong, he did what was right to protect him and his family, but it sound like the intruder needed serious mental help, and it's unfortunate that it had to end like that.

Ok, watched the video and it turns out he was really drunk. Either way though, mentally unstable or belligerently drunk, I'm sure it turned out worse than anyone could have hoped for.

Because as we all know, no one EVER survives a single gun shot.....

Don't worry, he wasn't using 9mm

 

[krs]

I want some of that clairvoyant training they give 9-1-1 operators.

I'd LOVE to be able to see the future too.

Because as we all know, no one EVER survives a single gun shot.....

it was a 12 guage shotgun. If the dispatcher knew that, and knew the guy was down....not so much clairvoyance training required as otherwise.

 

[TexasRifleman]

it was a 12 guage shotgun.

Those magical one shot stoppers?

Someone should have told this cop....

WEST PHILADELPHIA - September 24, 2007 (WPVI) -- A man jumped out of a car during a traffic stop and shot a rookie officer in the face with a shotgun.

Officer Richard Decoatsworth, 21, was taken to surgery after being hit with birdshot, police said.

"One man reached into the automobile, got on the hood of the car, and shot the officer one time in the face with a sawed-off shotgun," explained police commissioner Sylvester Johnson.

After he was shot, Decoatsworth returned the gunfire and chased the suspects nearly four blocks to 51st and Arch Streets. He called for help, and then sat down when his bleeding became too bad. A responding officer then drove Decoatsworth to the hospital.

Nope, no one ever gets up after a close range hit with a shotgun.

Sorry, it is simply not a 9-1-1 operators place to make a judgment on whether a scene is safe or not. And no, the transcript does not show that the operator knew it was a 12-gauge, not that it matters.

 

[Deanimator]

Because as we all know, no one EVER survives a single gun shot.....

Sometimes they survive more than one, which is why an Akron pizza shop owner recently had to shoot a robber carrying a sawed off shotgun something on the order of seven times, a number of which were through and throughs which impacted a metal door. 9x19mm for self-defense? Ok. 9x19mm FMJs? Not so much.

The 911 operator had no business telling the victims to disarm unless there was a cop THERE AT THAT SECOND. Cops are often a source of dubious "information" about guns and self-defense. I doubt 911 operators are MORE tactically and technically proficient.

 

[Hungry Seagull]

The 911 job is to get response rolling to the right address, record the situation and coordinate the aftermath.

This ma'am put the gun down stuff is almost like the white house telling the platoon sargeant what to do over on the other side of the world right that second.

If MY intruder still moves after his spine is removed by the slug, it's either death throes or a beserker who does not know when is enough.

Our 911 might have two fights on thier hands. The first from me at the door and then the wife with HER gun when they get past me towards the safe room.

 

[Zundfolge]

If Deputies were just right around the corner, telling the guy to put the gun down was the right thing to do.

You don't need this tragedy compounded by police reacting to a man with a shotgun standing over an downed person by shooting the home owner.

Clearly if the guy on the ground is still a threat you ignore the 911 operator.

 

[45Badger]

Made Fox news this morning too. Unfortunately, they said Vermont, not Virginia.

I can see where that would be confusing.

Not a lot of "Jerry Lee Jones Juniors" in VT. And one less in VA

 

[Stirling XD]

I wouldn't put the gun down until the police are on the scene and they have things under control. Most 911 operators are well trained and have a lot of great information that they can pass on in times of trouble. But when it's my house and my life on the line, it's my decision as to when I put down my gun.

 

[Cannonball888]

Am I wrong or were the LEOs hanging out front during the b&e and subsequent shooting and only came up to the house after the owners told the dispatcher at least separate 3 times the gun was on the floor?

 

[Sergeant Sabre]

Just HOW did I know as soon as I read the line about putting the gun down that the first thing that would happen is people would complain about the dispatcher telling the guy to put the gun down?

The police don't know every detail of what is going on. When they show up if all they see is one guy down and second guy with shotgun, it could get ugly for the homeowner. 'Course, I suspect very soon the tin-foil-hatters will arrive to howl and wail about what a horrendous Gestapo-esque rights violation the aforementioned dispatcher has committed

 

[TexasRifleman]

When they show up if all they see is one guy down and second guy with shotgun, it could get ugly for the homeowner.

Bad guy gets up and comes again it's gonna pretty ugly for the homeowner as well.

I'd rather take my chances with a sober, trained police officer than a mental case who just took a metal chair to my back door.

wail about what a horrendous Gestapo-esque rights violation the aforementioned dispatcher has committed

No but it's dangerous advice. She has no way of knowing if the immediate danger has passed yet is making a recommendation on a course of action as a "representative" of the police. That's a bad idea, and her dispatcher training did NOT teach her to do that. She should be reprimanded by her superior and possibly sent back for some more training.

 

[Hungry Seagull]

I tell you this much.

Our police are going to fill that driveway (They have in the past...) and boy are they gonna be looking.

They will see me and gun slowly putting gun with one hand down and two steps off with other hand in air while telling wife to disarm in that alamo. (Bedroom and open door)

BG aint gonna be in a position to do much of anything, Im just sorry that I am accidently standing on his (The bad guy's) right wrist with my boot and all that hollering makes it hard to hear LEO commands.

 

[neverjeg]

Put the gun down? No thank you. I'll wait until the officer takes control. 911, please tell the officer's I'm the guy in the boxers.

In the mean time - keep it pointed at the BG and watchful for his buddy.

 

[Starship1st]

I am glad that the husban had a gun in the house to protect his family. It could have ended tragic. Main stream media will never carry this story.