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Anyone have links to actual data on "Home Invasions"?

I'm gonna repeat the "actual data" part since apparently we've got Forum Members who are so quick to respond, they don't even read the posts they're responding to.

I'm interested in # of invasions over a given period.
% Armed.
Armed with what weapons.
% Where violence occured.
% Where gunfire occured.
Outcomes.
etc, etc.

I've heard that most of us (suburbanites in mid-class neighborhoods) have better chances of getting killed by a golf ball than a "home invader."
Yet, we'll spend COUNTLESS hours and THOUSANDS of dollars on our arsenal of bedside weapons and not $25 on a helmet to wear around outside.
lol.

As a matter of fact, I wonder if (statistically speaking) bringing a gun into the home raises your odds of having a death in the family while not significantly altering your odds of surviving a home invasion.

Now, once again, I'm not asking for any "feedback" or "opinions" on this.
Just links to the studies/facts if you know of any.
Thanks
 
yep happens all the time. what at least 100000 a day. thats why we all need home defense guns.

what a joke.
i think 99% of people who buy a gun for home defense is a joke.
if your going to get into shooting then just say it. but to buy a 30/06 or a AR15 for home defense is rediculous. Same time though i own guns and i believe in my right to own a firearm. However you dont see me all paranoid looking out the window ready to shoot anyone.
 
As a matter of fact, I wonder if (statistically speaking) bringing a gun into the home raises your odds of having a death in the family while not significantly altering your odds of surviving a home invasion.
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Storing a bottle of Drano under your sink probably has a higher statistical correlation to a rise of accidental death in your household than storing a firearm.
 
scrat,

I'm editing this per a moderator's suggestion.
It will now simply repeat my request for "actual statistical data" regarding home invasions.
Not discussion, not theory, not myths/rumors/stories.
Just the facts, if such exist.

Thank you kindly.
 
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Hurricane Katrina invaded my home along with a few hundred thousand other residences nearby on 8/29/05. Still haven't figured out the right platform or caliber to stop a Cat4 storm but I am a little closer to maybe having the proper response to some who rode in during her aftermath.
 
"Storing a bottle of Drano under your sink probably has a higher statistical correlation to a rise of accidental death in your household than storing a firearm." - Geoff

Gen. Geoff,
I'm sure that's a true statement.
However, 100% of homeowners I know have had clogged drains.
Thus, owning something to deal with that problem is understandable.
And there may even be environmentally safe, non-toxic options as well.
But I dunno nor do I care - I wasn't asking about drano (or storm shutters - IfYouONlyKnew).

I was asking about published statistics on home invasions.
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thank you
 
Don't Feed the Troll

I predict that this thread will be shut down.
Don't you all think someone as articulate as CRA2 could do his own research, if all he wanted was an answer?
 
cra2 said:
I've heard that most of us (suburbanites in mid-class neighborhoods) have better chances of getting killed by a golf ball than a "home invader."
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At the risk of feeding a possible troll...

The FBI doesn't have a separate category for home invasions in its Uniform Crime Report. So someone would have to find a state or more local government report that includes this information.

As far as golf balls killing more people than home invasions... please find me a single published report of someone being killed due to being struck by a golf ball. I know of one case where someone had $2-3k in medical bills from being stuck by one, but as far as actual deaths, never heard of it.
 
@scrat

Gee, my upstairs neighbor would beg to differ. Strung out homeless guy started beating on her door at 3am threatening to kill her. :fire:
 
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I can't cite any "actual studies", but anecdotally I can respond that the past six months have witnessed a minimum of four home invasions in the greater Albuquerque area. In three of those cases the homeowner was able to fight off the attacker(s) with firearms. I have heard no reports about death by golf ball for the same period.

What is your point?
 
horsesense,
I totally agree with you. Shut it down if THIS is the direction serious queries go. I post a simple request for stats and I get drano and hurricanes. lol.

"Trolling" is not trying to find statistics about a very serious subject.
Proper responses would actually be educational and informative for those of us who want to make fact-based decisions about potentially lethal threats.

If I went to an Automobile forum and asked if anyone had stats on Ford SUV Rollovers, that wouldn't be trolling. And theoretically, I'd get responses that cited actual studies and safety evaluations.

Not, "I like cars."
Or, "My Toyota never rolled over."
Or, "I don't think Fords are safe."
Forgive me for correcting those that respond this way.
But I was trying to PREVENT it from becoming some kind of flame-war by asking for facts only.

If noone has any, there's no discussion.
Simple as that.

(though, that would tell me there's a whole lotta people buying a whole lot of gear in response to something they know very little, if any, about. Which would be like me writing my congressman to ban pit bulls because I saw a bunch of news stories about pit bull attacks last year.)
 
I've never seen a golf ball reverse direction because its target was wearing a helmet.

Inanimate objects are not subject to deterrence.


Just as trolls are not subject to logic.
 
There are about 1,000 accidental fatal shootings per year. There are about 40,000 fatal automobile accidents per year. Wear your seatbelt and stop worrying about guns!

~G. Fink
 
Who cares about the gun accidents and home invasions, I wanna hear more about these evil golf ball attackers!!!:what:

230RN,

Did you do that search all my yourself??? :D
 
cra2

Now, once again, I'm not asking for any "feedback" or "opinions" on this.
Just links to the studies/facts if you know of any.
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Ahhh... but it's okay for you to post your little digs at us, eh?


cra2
I've heard that most of us (suburbanites in mid-class neighborhoods) have better chances of getting killed by a golf ball than a "home invader."
Yet, we'll spend COUNTLESS hours and THOUSANDS of dollars on our arsenal of bedside weapons and not $25 on a helmet to wear around outside.
lol.
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Would one more dig count as "piling on"?


cra2

As a matter of fact, I wonder if (statistically speaking) bringing a gun into the home raises your odds of having a death in the family while not significantly altering your odds of surviving a home invasion.
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Typical "do as I say, not as I do" troll behavior.


Crawl back under your bridge. :neener:
 
I don't have a "point", sistema.
I have a question.
Not troll.
Not bait.
Not loaded.

It's very simple.

Do you have any links to studies or facts regarding home invasion statistics.
If so, post them.
If not, don't.

Which part of that has turned this into a thread about drano, hurricanes or trolls?

There are what - 8 replies so far - and only Creeping Incrementalism has provided advice regarding how to find the information. (thank you, btw, Creeping)
 
cra2, you'll find that few things of this nature have universally accepted statistics associated with them because they're highly politicized issues. I don't think you're trolling, but you may be asking a question that nobody can really answer (more importantly, they're questions gunnies don't want to be asked, see above). When they can't answer it, well, you see what happens.

I've heard that most of us (suburbanites in mid-class neighborhoods) have better chances of getting killed by a golf ball than a "home invader."

As a matter of fact, I wonder if (statistically speaking) bringing a gun into the home raises your odds of having a death in the family while not significantly altering your odds of surviving a home invasion.
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Have you heard that a gun in the house is x times more likely to kill a loved one than an invader?

There are tons of statements like that, and I haven't heard of any that stands up to scrutiny.
With guns at least you have control over your own odds. There's nothing you can do about a lot of things, but you can make having a gun in the home much safer by keeping them locked away and out of reach, keeping them hidden, keeping them unloaded with a mag nearby, teaching everyone in the house gun safety, not drinking or doing drugs, etc.
 
230RN,

Did you do that search all by yourself???
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Yes, and it took hours and hours and hours of painful diligent research.

The "snotty remark" I referred to as having been edited was that that post just looked like a propaganda piece, since the information was so easy to Google.

I apologize to the OP in advance if I am wrong.

HowEver....

http://thehighroad.org/search.php?searchid=2195078

You'll have to log in to review the material in the above link.
 
Sorry for being blunt, but you guys are all a**holes. cra2 is NOT a troll. He has asked a perfectly reasonable question, one that is VERY relevant to the current movements against gun owners. In response, he has received attacks and ridicule. This is not the High Road way, and I was actually quite shocked to see this thread move in that direction :fire:

Whether you care about the statistics cra2 asks for, or interpret any discussion of them to be anti-gun is your own concern. These are the very statistics upon which laws curtailing or eliminating gun rights are based (or purportedly based). Knowing the actual numbers is useful not only in such debates, but also in tailoring a home defense system to the threat you are most likely to face.

cra2, I don't have any of the information that you asked for myself, but I too am very interested in these figures. Hopefully we can get more helpful responses.
 
cra2,

Frankly, I don't give a crap what you want.

But I am a moderator here, so I'm going to chime in.

If you insult another member on THR, your account will be revoked. As for insulting someone's literacy, why don't you go back and read the forum rules you agreed to when you signed up, oh literate one?

For the rest of you, answer his question. If not, walk away.

I'm going to leave this thread open, probably against my better judgement. To see if someone can answer his question with numbers.

However I don't think you're going to see it, because this isn't the kind of thing that gets tracked.
 
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