Hoping for a CW-9 Gen 2

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At shot show, Kahr had their pricey pistols demonstrating the new Gen 2 trigger. I certainly hope that they put this trigger in the cheaper models [like the CW-9]. That's what I am going to get if they do so. My current carry gun, Shield, is one that I just cannot get comfortable with. My gunsmith friend is going to buy it [he likes S&W semi-autos]. I'm now just waiting to see whether or not Kahr WILL do a Gen 2 CW-9.

If anyone has any inside info, please offer it here, including when we may start seeing them arrive for sale.

Thanks!
 
Orion8472 said:
At shot show, Kahr had their pricey pistols demonstrating the new Gen 2 trigger. I certainly hope that they put this trigger in the cheaper models [like the CW-9]. That's what I am going to get if they do so. My current carry gun, Shield, is one that I just cannot get comfortable with. My gunsmith friend is going to buy it [he likes S&W semi-autos]. I'm now just waiting to see whether or not Kahr WILL do a Gen 2 CW-9.

If anyone has any inside info, please offer it here, including when we may start seeing them arrive for sale.

Thanks!
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I own 3 Kahr C-series: CW380, CW9, and CW45. To me, the triggers are about as good as it gets, and I don't know how they could be improved upon. Long, smooth pull with no stacking and a crisp reset. Like a finely-tuned DA revolver. Some think that the pull is too long, but I think that was designed in as a safety feature since there are no external safeties on Kahrs.
 
I'm not wanting to get into that debate.

FWIW, I had a Kahr but could never get used to the long DAO trigger, so the Gen 2 trigger interests me again, since the CW9 I had was the most comfortable feeling small 9mm to hold.
 
It certainly would. And I have to wonder how many people would be new Kahr owners with the new trigger. . . . . . or would no longer be, wanting the long DAO trigger instead? As DAO triggers go, the Kahr WAS the best feeling, so I wonder how Kahr will handle the issue with those who won't buy one with the Gen 2 trigger?

For people like me, however, it will be "another potential customer".
 
For those of you who have had a chance to try out the new Gen 2 trigger, how does it differ from the current one? Is it smooth like the current trigger just with a shorter travel?
 
I dunno. It seems like a more premium item that would go on the regular, full price guns.

My guess is the Gen 2 trigger will make its way to being standard on the T, TP, K, P, PM series guns while all the C series keep the original trigger. I think that if they give the economy line the bells a whistles of the premium line, it will close the gap between them and they might lose money on people who decide there's not enough difference to make it worth the price jump.
 
Been thinking on that a bit. Not sure why they wouldn't include it even in the CW series since the models would still reflect the pricing, as it currently is now. IF they won't put it in the CW9, I won't be getting a Kahr, I guess. I guess it will be a waiting game to see which ones will get the Gen 2 trigger.
 
I didn't make it to SHOT this year, so I'd be interested in anyone's, who did go, impression of how the Gen 2 trigger feels/differs.

It would make sense to not include it in the CW lineup as it would better delineate their premium line from their economy line.

I'd prefer a shorter trigger stroke, but I wouldn't be willing to give up the smoothness and lightness of the current trigger. I've found that the length of travel of the current trigger helps a lot of newer shooters overcome their inclination to jerk the trigger
 
I emailed Sales at Kahr about my question. I'll post a reply when [if] I get one.
 
My guess is the CW series will get them too. From a logistical standpoint its easier to make fewer variations of things. If they can just stock one type of trigger components for everything it'll probably be cheaper on them than two of them.

Unless items are specifically marked though you likely wouldn't know which you're getting - particularly from a smaller vendor. If they say they're doing them in the CW series my advice would be to pick a big vendor like Buds, notice when CW9's are out of stock, then buy when they come back in stock. That way you're likely to get recent production.
 
I have yet to receive any word on my question. I wonder how long they are backed up to answer questions? I wonder if sales(at)kahr.com even would know the answer to my question? :confused:
 
Kahr triggers are ok for what the are. However, they aren going to be everyone's cup of tea. I don't love the super long reset for example.
 
That's what has kept me from buying one. . . . . but if they DID add the CW9 to the Gen 2 trigger line, I'll definitely be buying one because I like their feel over the other subcompact 9's. I just don't know if it is going to happen, and that's gonna be a shame if they only put the new trigger in their expensive pistols [too rich for my blood].
 
mgmorden said:
My guess is the CW series will get them too. From a logistical standpoint its easier to make fewer variations of things. If they can just stock one type of trigger components for everything it'll probably be cheaper on them than two of them.
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You'd think that, but... if it were true, the CW line wouldn't exist at all, since they have different:
1. slides
2. sight sets
3. barrels
4. slide stops
 
I'm beginning to think that I will be out of luck on what I want.

Anyone know how long it might take to get an answer from the address I sent my question to?
 
9mmepiphany said:
You'd think that, but... if it were true, the CW line wouldn't exist at all, since they have different:
1. slides
2. sight sets
3. barrels
4. slide stops
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Well, yes, but all those things are specific changes designed to actually reduce the manufacturing cost.

1. The CW slide has less machining operations.
2. The sights are polymer.
3. Barrels are traditional rifled vs polygonal.
4. MIM Slide stop.

Compare that with a trigger where it's likely just a design change that is produced DIFFERENTLY, but not more expensively. In that case they're not saving any money by including the old trigger design.

The one thing that may have an impact on this though would be using up old parts stock. If they have a big stack of the old trigger parts to use up you can bet they'll be putting those in CW's until they run out of them.

Of course, nothing is certain, but it's a common manufacturing practice.
 
2 questions, What is the new trigger like in comparison to the PM9 current, old trigger? Is it possible to have the new trigger installed in your older gun if it turns out to indeed be better than the current one.
I like the current trigger and really would have to try the new one first before even thinking about it, but since it's my EDC and I never had a problem with it whatsoever, I am reluctant to mess with it.
But I might be tempted to get another one perhaps in 40, if this new trigger is that good.
 
I called Kahr. Basically, the Gen 2 is just a prototype right now. No certain plans on when it is going to come out. . . . .and as the guy on the phone said, "unlikely to find the Gen 2 trigger on the bargain line".

So much for me getting a Kahr. I guess I'll look into getting a Ruger LC9s.
 
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"unlikely to find the Gen 2 trigger on the bargain line".
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That makes sound marketing thinking

The idea should be to further differentiate the lines they offer...the first CW9s where way too close to the P9s

Their economy line has a different target market share
 
Perhaps. Just a shame, since they feel the best in my hand,. . . . and the P9 [IF it is included in the eventual Gen 2 trigger update] is a bit too high in price.

I wonder when/if Glock will come out with their single stack 9mm?
 
Slickguns had the P9 on sale yesterday, Feb 27th. It should still be there they were "Blems", but came with 3 mags. And the price was very good, I don't want to give you misinformation so I won't guess, but it is easy to look for if you are interested
 
george, I'm not interested in the current Kahr trigger, but thanks for the info.
 
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