How Bump Stocks Work (and Why You Should Care)

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It seems there's a lot of folks out there who don't quite understand how a bump stock works. More importantly, many of them seem to mistakenly believe they can be differentiated from auto-loading firearms. This is a dangerous misunderstanding, considering the nation appears set on recklessly banning bump fire by any means possible.

Bump-firing devices, from stocks, to belt-loops, to your own fat gut, are all recoil operated devices. That is to say, they use some portion of the projectile's momentum to reset the action back into the firing condition. If this sounds familiar, that's because it is; practically all semi-automatic handguns operate on a very similar principle.

Upon ignition, the bullet accelerates rapidly down the barrel. Action being met by opposite reaction, the whole firearm begins moving in the opposite direction at a much slower rate. However, human flesh, wrists, shoulders, and torsos are not perfectly rigid objects. Thus, the firearm is able to shift to the rear under recoil. This is the first portion of the bump fire 'cycle.'

Provided the trigger travel is light and short enough (i.e. not a big bag of garbage dragged down a gravel road) the distance the firearm recoils into the shooter exceeds that needed to reset the trigger sear. Provided the moving parts of the firearm cycle faster than the shooter's body rocks back and forth (they all do), the bolt will return to battery with the next cartridge before the shooter returns to their starting location. These two facts combine to enable bump fire, which is simply the bolt carrier returning forward faster than the much-heavier gun bouncing off the shooter while their finger is held stationary.

Shot fires, gun moves back along with trigger far enough that the sear resets as the gun cycles. Gun bounces off the shooter, right smack into their trigger finger, still held in the flexed position. A second shot fires. Bounce and repeat.

Clearly, the system as a whole resembles a machine gun since no additional logical decision is necessary to stop the gun from firing (a dude with rigor-mortis could bump fire if someone jostles the gun to get the process rolling). But here's the thing; there's a person as the critical component of that machine gun; you are the auto sear. Same as any other time you've used a repeating firearm, or frankly, any firearm at all including a muzzle loader. In those cases, you are simply taking on an additional number of mechanical roles to perform intentional repeating fire.

That's how 'basic' bump fire operates, and here's where the bump stock comes in. As you may imagine, we all have different body weight, size, muscle tone, tendon strength, etc. These are just the human factors that all impact the dynamics of bump fire. A bump stock normalizes but does not bypass or negate these factors by simply allowing the firearm to recoil freely a short distance relative to the shooter. It's basically a loose buttstock and pistol grip. However, the small amount of free movement means the initial portion of the recoil cycle that takes the trigger off the shooter's finger is more consistent and predictable. If you flex your pectoral muscle, it won't change the rate of fire or chance of successful repetition nearly as much as if you are doing basic bump fire.

A bump stock is performing the same function as a lighter, crisper trigger; removing some portion of difficult technique from a shot so imperfect form will not be as disruptive. Moreover, any semi-auto that operates on recoil (all autoloaders are powered by expanding powder gasses in the bore) can be bump fired, unless the trigger is unusually heavy or has extremely long travel. There is no way to irreversibly slow operation of the bolt carrier enough for the firearm to bounce back onto the shooter's finger, and allow a bump fire.

A ban on bump-fire is a ban on all semi-auto actions. This should honestly not be all that surprising, considering the widespread calls for the banning of all semi-auto firearms in the wake of the recent shooting.
 
I disagree that all semi autos are capable of bump firing. I have tried it with more than 1 .22lr and had no luck. It does require enough recoil to move the rifle far enough to complete the entire trigger cycle. That is why bump stocks are currently legal. The trigger is still pulled each time a round is fired. One pull, one bullet fired. Still SEMI auto.
 
The activating force in bump firing is counterrecoil, that is, the elasticity of the shooter's shoulder moving the whole gun forward after it has recoiled backward. (The Akins Accelerator used a spring to assist the counterrecoil, but it turned out that wasn't necessary.) If the shooter's trigger finger is held in a fixed position, the gun moving forward hits the trigger finger and fires the weapon. In other words, the shooter's activation of the trigger is passive rather than active.

A bump stock makes this action easier and more predictable, by channeling the recoil action and holding shooter's trigger finger in a fixed position. Bump firing can be done without a special stock, but it takes a lot more skill and practice to do it.
 
There are slide fire kits for 10/22's, which means a 10/22 by itself can and will fire similarly (since no energy is provided by the stock). But point taken, bump fire is more easy with firearms that have a useful degree of power to work with (22LR is great and all, but its practical uses are pretty narrow and unimportant compared to the broad scope of firearms)

Even the Akins Accelerator decision (largely waived off as unimportant by the gun crowd due to its obscurity) is highly questionable, and arguably overreaches. If a spring rebounding off the recoil is considered an auto-sear device (like a shoelace), then what is gravity? Point a bump-stock straight down and hang the rifle off its trigger; exact same arrangement with an 'energy storage device' --the elevation of the firearm-- and a sear release device; the trigger. Even more disturbing is the fact that, again, you don't really even need a stock for that arrangement to fire repeatedly. So really, the Akins Accelerator argument is very easily turned on all semi-autos, since it's still very easy to convert a semi-auto to full with any 'spring like device' or body part, and despite the ATF declaring that the spring of a person's shoulder does not constitute a component in a mechanism, there is nothing in the statute stopping them from reversing that decision.

It's really not that hard to understand; just as the rules for weapon type are badly written and nonsensical since the NFA language banning all concealable guns was removed, the same goes for machine guns. Originally it was a ban on anything that shot more than 12 rounds, ie a magazine ban, but capacity was later omitted. In truth, the law does not really differentiate between full and semi auto on any kind of practical, technical level, and it was left to the ATF. Historically, it was 'one shot one pull' as the law clearly states, but the 'readily convertible to a machinegun' escape clause allowed them to ban open bolt guns, which would fire with the sear removed. Subsequently, the definition of semi-auto narrowed to mean 'anything closed-bolt and one-pull-one-shot.' Then MGs became ludicrously expensive and obscure after Hughes, and along came bump stocks. Now we see the definition of semi-auto bieng narrowed to 'anything closed-bolt, that can't be fired rapidly enough to vaguely resemble machine gun fire to the unfamiliar, and one-pull-one-shot.'
 
The part that gets me is the argument that they should be restricted because they’re an obvious work around the law.

Well that’s true, but that’s also true for a slew of things depending on who is deciding what’s legal and what’s not. Just look at arm braces, the Mossberg shockwave, maybe even the Taurus Judge. A large portion of California firearms were designated exclusively to get around their stupid laws.

Words have meanings, especially in laws.... I’d like to keep it that way.
 
IMHO, it will be very important how any law banning devices is worded. If it is cleverly worded to include all semis, then yes, that would be bad. If it was inadvertently worded to be interpreted to ban semis, a legal fight(s) would ensue.
But, if it was definitively worded to ban ONLY the certain add-on devices that cause bumpfiring, the law might then only effect those devices and leave all semis alone.

BTW, I oppose the banning of these devices ... but being realistic, I'm pretty sure it is going to happen. .... Just saying ....:thumbdown:
 
I disagree that all semi autos are capable of bump firing. I have tried it with more than 1 .22lr and had no luck. It does require enough recoil to move the rifle far enough to complete the entire trigger cycle. That is why bump stocks are currently legal. The trigger is still pulled each time a round is fired. One pull, one bullet fired. Still SEMI auto.
The 'click-clack' .22's (Springfield 87 being a handy example) cannot be bumpfired, because their cyclic rate is so slow, it does not return to battery before the recoil impulse is over. 10/22's certainly can.
I used to mess with friends at the range by bumpfiring my S&W 422, then watching the stunned looks followed by "Can I try it?" They'd crack all 10 off as fast as they could, normally, then ask where 'the switch' was. :rofl:
 
IMHO, it will be very important how any law banning devices is worded. If it is cleverly worded to include all semis, then yes, that would be bad. If it was inadvertently worded to be interpreted to ban semis, a legal fight(s) would ensue.
But, if it was definitively worded to ban ONLY the certain add-on devices that cause bumpfiring, the law might then only effect those devices and leave all semis alone.
I have yet to hear anyone propose a bump-stock ban that is not so broad as to encompass all semi-auto designs. I mean, I guess you could ban Slidefire brand products, specifically, but somehow I doubt that's what the anti's & Trump are going for. "Rate increasing devices" can mean almost anything, including ammo. Not that it matters, since all 'standard' ROF is sufficient to bump fire; faster is just funner, is all.

"Rate increasing device" is just a stand-in for "high-capacity" if you ask me; the justification is identical; 'that gun shoots too fast and it scares me'
 
Iv bumpfired my ruger 22/45 on accident one or twice, in pin shoots in the past. volquartsen trigger is amazing.
 
And this is a perfect illustration of the fate of all legislative attempts to regulate technology; engineers treat the regulation as a problem to be solved, and solve it! Frequently the solution has perverse consequences far greater than could have been anticipated.

So NFA begat bumpfire stocks in the same way that CAFE standards begat the SUV, and a generation of rollover accidents due to lousy vehicle dynamics.
 
''I have yet to hear anyone propose a bump-stock ban that is not so broad as to encompass all semi-auto designs''

And you never will. The red word is my emphasis. The leftists always ask for more then they want, and satisfy with getting something.




Until the next time. And the next time. And...
 
So what do we do? Get on the horn with your reps & president & NRA, and demand they stifle their knee jerks.

BTW, NSSF is promoting background checks again...
 
The Akins Accelerator used a spring to assist the counterrecoil, but it turned out that wasn't necessary.

Yes and No, the Akins Accelerator and AW SIM use springs to push the firearm back into the trigger (finger) so if you held your finger in place the 10/22 receiver and barrel were moving back and forth in the stock while you did nothing.

The spring is what they decided was the machine gun part, because there was no shooter input needed to fire more than one shot. Remove the spring and they are legal, like the slidefire because the user is doing the shoving of the trigger into the finger, not a spring.
 
The part that gets me is the argument that they should be restricted because they’re an obvious work around the law.

They put machineguns into a different class and the bump stocks are not machineguns, same as a hand crank on a semiauto or Gatling gun isn’t a machinegun.

Put a spring in there or get a piece of string and loop it like this and you have turned a semiauto into a machine gun.

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It’s prety simple right now, start making laws about rate of fire and someone with a fast finger is going to become a felon.
 
It’s prety simple right now, start making laws about rate of fire and someone with a fast finger is going to become a felon.

Like Jerry Miculek -- he is within an eye-blink of being as fast as an NFA registered AKM using a semi-auto AR15 in a "race" and his hits on target were significantly better! The video is on youTube.
 
The sad thing about this discussion is the fact that anyone who is willing to use a bump stock weapon to mow down people, like the Las Vegas murderer, is not going to be deterred by any law regarding type of weaponry or equipment.
 
This device is useless and should be banned immediately. One of my associates who is little paranoid thinks Erik Holder and Barrack Hussian Obama allowed them to be manufacturerd because their use in terror attacks could be utilized to restrict and ban firearms. I do not share this point of view, but think if nothing is done about use of AR-15s and similar weapons in terror attacks sooner or later my gun ownership right will come to an end.
 
I've had friends that owned bump stocks & binary-triggers on AR's who let me shoot them at the range. I could see how they MIGHT help a lunatic spray a large crowd at a distance, like the LV killer. In closer quarters, a maniac would need to carry a lot of magazines because his first victim would be swiss-cheese & after that most bullets would be in the ceiling & the gun empty. After the first shot I was lucky to keep all the bullets hitting the berm!
 
This device is useless and should be banned immediately. One of my associates who is little paranoid thinks Erik Holder and Barrack Hussian Obama allowed them to be manufacturerd because their use in terror attacks could be utilized to restrict and ban firearms. I do not share this point of view, but think if nothing is done about use of AR-15s and similar weapons in terror attacks sooner or later my gun ownership right will come to an end.

I guess I am also a little paranoid because I have this same suspicion. I would not put anything past Obama or Holder concerning banning firearms.

I have had the opportunity to play with one and turned it down, just wasn't interested. I do think they are a workaround the machine gun ban. Even with this said I am not sure how I would feel about a ban of these devices. I question the wisdom of President Trump (I voted for him but I can still question his wisdom) even mentioning them when they had nothing to do with the latest school shooting. I also question if bump stocks actually added to the body count at Vegas but that is probably for a different thread.

The failures of law enforcement should be the real story and not AR's or bump stocks but that would require people taking accountability for their actions or inactions. Yea I know, good luck with that.
 
PabloJ that associate that fears such things may ultimately be nearer the truth than any of us want to admit. I also feel that too many missteps and apathy about a single individual was not the end all that caused the FL shooter to get to do what he did. Possibly some agenda that if this person ( or several others they are watching) happens to go berserk THEN we may finally be able to do something about those firearms is not that far fetched IMHO. My father has his 30-30 and shotgun and could care less about anyone else owning any other firearm. Thinks Iam wasting my money buying handguns and AR's. His choice, that's what is great about America----a choice. I have no need for a bumpstock and do not see why anyone would want one as the one I saw used was a PITA and rarely fired more that two rounds before stopping. But If other gun owners WANT to own them, by god, we need to support their efforts to own them.
I also know from past interactions with the government and laws it is waaay easier to stop something now than try and repeal it later (AHCA anyone).
 
Bump stocks aren't the issue, intentionally conflating semi with full auto after Hughes is, and the antis have been pushing that successfully for decades. They even have some gun owners fooled as we see here, both in thinking these stocks modify any rifles' capabilities, and in believing they can be banned without broad repurcussions for all semiautos.
 
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