How do the Israelis handle it when multiple armed civilians respond to a terrorist?

[vta33]

SniperStraz wrote:

"While to most Americans, all dark people look the same,..."

How about posting some new cliches? That one is old and tired.

 

[rb4browns]

Israel

Nice to see my fellow Jewish gun owners here chiming in. As others have pointed out, the image many have of Israel who have not spent time there can be very different from the reality. I am not Israeli but have spent quite a bit of time there on numerous visits. Within the major cities such as Tel Aviv, Haifa and Jerusalem it is very difficult for the average person to own a gun. You do see many armed folks, but they are either active duty soldiers or reservists called up on miluim (reserve duty). Active duty infantry soldiers are responsible for their weapons when they are home on leave, and it is not uncommon to to see groups of 19 year olds walking around in jeans and t-shirts with their rifles slung over their back. You also will see heavily armed Border Police units, which are paramilitary police forces. These are more prominent in the cities closer to the non-Israeli Arab areas.

Where you will see civilians carrying loaded weapons is out in the Territories(Judea and Samarea, a.k.a. teh West Bank). Due to the high rate of terrorist gun attacks on Jewish communities in the Territories it is easier to get a gun permit.

As far as the suicide bombings in Israels main cities, I do not know of any which were prevented by private citizens carrying handguns. Most unsuccessful bombings were thwarted by alert security guards, police, bus drivers, etc.

 

[Autolycus]

Originally posted by SniperStraz:
First of all, the terrorists usually don't blend in with a crowd in Israel after they start the attack. They are standing in the middle of a square or on the side of a road blasting AKs on full auto. Its pretty easy to see who is and who is not shooting an AK at a school house. Also, Israelis don't use AKs for the most part.(except for some frogmen and in other special operations) Very few terrorists have used handguns for assults on civilians, and nowadays most attacks are done by explosives or using snipers. Alot of attacks are done on settlements where everyone knows everyone. Aside from all of that. While to most Americans, all dark people look the same, to Israelis there is often times a distinct difference in appearence, the way they speak and even the way they smell. (I know that sounds racist or something but I dont mean it in a bad way.) In addition, many-most terrorists are nervous and shakey and yell something to the effect of "Allah Hu Ackbar" before the attack. Shootouts usually dont last long and most Israelis have been through some sort of military training. Also Israelis are not nearly as spartanic as they are protrayed. From what I have seen, in any given attack, the initial response would only be from 1-6 people, and statisticly speaking only about 1 out of 6 people would actually fire there weapons.
Anyway, I'm no expert, but I have spent quite some time in Israel and almost all of my friends are LEO, military and spec-ops there. I have spent alot of time studying the subject and am very familiar with it.

This sounds like a lot of gun owner mythology right here. Do you have any sources for these "facts"?

Jeff White: What is color of the day?

 

[Jeff White]

The color of the day is a method where everyone working plainclothes or undercover wears some item of clothing in the designated color of the day.

Jeff

 

[Autolycus]

So if the color is red all the plainclothes and undercover where a red shirt or hat? Thats a pretty good idea.

Does it apply to off duty LEOs?