Killermonkey21 said:
I'm currently deployed to Iraq, but coming "home" to NC in a few months.
Thank you. I love the US legal system.
No, thank YOU for your service. I'm glad something I found while just tinkering could be of use to you.
Killermonkey21 said:
OT: Do you think they'll honor military training (M9 basic course) for training? Hmmmm...
I think so, as long as the training was completed within the last five years. The guy on SigForums sent in his SigArms Institute training, or something like that, and I don't know for sure that they wouldn't have taken my "Annual Safety Certificate" from the range, even without the NRA Basic Pistol course.
coloradokevin said:
One word of caution, don't get too bold in assuming that all LEO's aren't familiar with the law, though I will freely admit that I doubt many of them have studied out of state regulations (why would they?). Remember, on the street their interpretation of the law will be "final". So, be polite and courteous, and I think it will help if you are ever stopped... and remember that you have a decent case with the way you've set things up!
You're absolutely right, and I DO make sure that I'm as polite and respectful as possible any time I'm stopped.
I mean hey, if I worked a dangerous job every day, and got paid way less than I deserved to keep people safe who called me an "ass^#&@" for writing tickets to drivers going 90 in a 55, I'd appreciate it if someone showed me some respect once in a while too.
A really great thing for any driver to read, especially for CCW holders, is section II of the EHOWA article "How to Get Out of a Speeding Ticket."
http://ehowa.com/mythoughts/nospeeding.shtml
Despite the title, it's mostly a checklist of good things to do when you're pulled over, like,
* Use your turn signal
* Turn on your hazards
* At night, TURN ON YOUR INTERIOR LIGHTS.
* Hands on the wheel, don't reach for anything until the officer asks.
* Whenever he asks for your license or registration, tell him where it is before you reach for it.
(It's a good idea to tell the police what you're reaching for...just ask Amadou Diallo)
Seriously though, those simple things, along with obvious "Yes, sir, No, sir, Yes ma'am, No ma'am, Thank you, Officer" have made a huge difference when I've been pulled over, whether I got a ticket or not.
Especially the interior lights at night. Again, I understand, it's a dangerous job, and that cop doesn't know me from (literally) a cop killer.
I don't mind doing everything I can to show a good, honest intention before he even walks up to the car.
coloradokevin said:
His entire defense was that he only had the AR-15, shotgun, and pistol for self defense.
Haha...hahaha...an AR-15 for self-defense against what, BEARS?
Thanks for the insight, coloradokevin, I really appreciate it coming from someone in law enforcement.
And thanks for your service, too.
Prince_Yamato said:
Also, would people please stop treating this fellow as if he is "sticking it to the man".
The only thing I consider "sticking it to the man" is when I convince Wal-Mart to sell me .40 S&W ammo by arguing that it's for a
rifle and not a handgun.
Clerk:
"...how do I know that you're REALLY gonna use this for a rifle?"
Me: "How do you know I'm NOT going to use this .22LR ammo for a handgun?"
Clerk:
"Well I'VE never HEARD of a .40 caliber rifle."
Me: "Alright, well I can go ahead and bring it into the store, if you like, I'm sure THAT will make your customers real comfortable, or would you just prefer to clock out and go to the range with me instead?"
Clerk:
"Alright, alright..."
I usually take a printed picture of either a Beretta Storm or a Ruger PC4 Carbine to speed up the process.
I really do mean to buy one of those guns someday...if I can ever stop changing my mind and using the ammo in my Glock as soon as I leave the store.
waynesan said:
Unfortunately, I suspect, the North Carolina State Legislature will probably be called into a special session immediately to correct this loophole you have discovered. I would think this website is viewed by people who will take this info and go to work post-haste. My guess is there are lawyers working overtime right now to advise the lawmakers on what to do.
I doubt it. I'm not sure what it's like it TN, but here in NC the state government is slow and crooked as hell. I worked as a page for the state government twice in high school, and almost every department is filled with people who come into work two hours late, sit around and read the newspaper all day, and then have the audacity to go on strike once a year and demand a pay increase.
Think about it: they can't even get their sh** together enough to give me a consistent answer when I called and TOLD them what I'd done, I doubt they have time to actually write and pass a new law in ten months based on ideas someone read on a forum of "gun nuts," and even if they did, I'd absolutely jump at the chance to go before the legislature and voice my opinion on this matter.
NC is a broke state, and there's no money in them fixing this "problem" I've created.
buck00 said:
Whoa, this is something. Are you like a Doogie Howser? (maybe you are too young to remember that show). How do you get into college at age 16? I have 16 yr old students who could mess up a cup of coffee, let alone get into a university.
I dual-enrolled at community college '04-'06. Here, you can attend community college for free and get both high school and college credits at the same time.
And I don't care what anyone says, community college was a far better experience and education than anything I've gotten from a four year private school. There, I went to school with ADULTS and people with life experience. Once I transferred, I was in class with whiny, drunken, apathetic rich kids driving Daddy's Lexus and running up his credit card.
Oh yeah, and you can smoke at community college, too. I loved hearing my friends stories about how they'd go off campus or hide in the bathroom to smoke, because I just lit up in front of my professors.
buck00 said:
I have to say that was a well written and organized post. The efforts you made to research and attain a CCW are commendable as well. Ever think of doing OCS and becoming a combat correspondent? It might be a nice way to beef up your resume for journalism.
I've thought about it. I'm not sure I have the mental strength for the military though, although I do have a lot of respect for it.
My real goal is to go to law school and become a trial attorney, and if somehow I'm really lucky, I'd eventually like to be a lobbyist for the NRA.
. Good for you. And when you commit no crimes, you'll be making the case for lowering the CCW age. Why should you have to go through all that trouble for a CCW when you should just be able to get one like the rest of us. You have stated your case clear and concise and there's nothing they could do to you when you followed the law so carefully. Your purpose in obtaining the permit was not malicious either. So you have two things working for you: 1) the law and 2) your intent. You followed the law, you had good intent. Keep up the good work.
I would think this website is viewed by people who will take this info and go to work post-haste. My guess is there are lawyers working overtime right now to advise the lawmakers on what to do.
