How many extra mags do you carry?

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Alexd said:
I'm not affiliated with any military but a friend in the US Army infantry was trained to never chamber a round unless you're off base/on a mission/in imminent danger. He was surprised to see me carrying with a round chambered. Wuchak - is USMC different?
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Not sure Alex since I wasn't part of them.

I think if you are in the service on a base that is surrounded by fences and patrolled by armed MP's at every entrance carrying without one in the chamber makes sense.

In the civilian world you don't have the perimeter security so you are always "off base/on a mission" and thus should always have one in the chamber.
 
I was trained to carry with one in the chamber while on patrol, or where there's imminent danger, but not in any other case. I also didn't mention that my glazer ammo came in only 6rds. a packs and bought two, so no spare round. Now depending on where I go I do chamber a round and then have 11+1 but only in the heart of my city and other dangerous places, so it's not like I don't carry loaded. Sorry for not specifying that.

By the way thank you for welcoming to the forum I really do appreciate that. The Marine Corps does train us in both condition 1 and condition 2 depending on the senario and the T/O weapon that you are issued. I will admit I never carried a pistol in the corps and they don't use the M1911 A1 anymore it's the M9 Parrabellum 9mm (POS. Sorry that's my opinion on the ones they use, old and not very well kept. Too many users before hand.) I chose my H&K based on the SOCOM of now a days (H&K Mk23) which is bigger than mine. But mine would be more like the SOCOM compact if you will. It does have the M2 illum light (Made by insight tech.) and I do have the threaded barrel and suppressor (Knight's Armament Co.)

Oh by the way I also have children and even though I lock up my weapon, you know how kids are today (lil thieves), they can get into anything and everything. So I don't keep a round chambered because they aren't stong enough (YET!) to pull back the slide.
 
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I don't intend on killing someone unintentionally, i.e. my kids every manage to get a hold of the weapon and it goes off. and two I do believe that hollow point might be illegal to use in my state and or city, for use against humans.

but that's not what this thread is about so. I won't comment any further on this matter. Thank you for the advice though.
 
USMCDK said:
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By the way thank you for welcoming to the forum I really do appreciate that. The Marine Corps does train us in both condition 1 and condition 2 depending on the senario and the T/O weapon that you are issued. I will admit I never carried a pistol in the corps and they don't use the M1911 A1 anymore it's the M9 Parrabellum 9mm (POS. Sorry that's my opinion on the ones they use, old and not very well kept. Too many users before hand.) I chose my H&K based on the SOCOM of now a days (H&K Mk23) which is bigger than mine. But mine would be more like the SOCOM compact if you will. It does have the M2 illum light (Made by insight tech.) and I do have the threaded barrel and suppressor (Knight's Armament Co.)....
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You're welcome. I hope you don't take offense if I say that I find it odd that you have the necessary permit to have a suppressor for your H&K but you aren't sure of the laws regulating hollow point ammunition where you live. Especially since any area that would have laws forbidding the use of hp ammo probably forbids silencers too. Usually when discrepancies in knowledge like this appear with low post count members the word troll comes to mind.

Can you please provide more info on getting the suppressor? What city,state are you in? What was the process for getting the necessary paperwork filed, turnaround times, cost, parts that were a major pita? I ask so others that would like to get one will know better what to expect.

How do you like the glazer ammo with the suppressor? What is the sound comparable too? Does it effect accuracy? Do you carry with the suppressor on? If not when do you use it?
 
[B]Can you please provide more info on getting the suppressor?[/B] What city,state are you in? What was the process for getting the necessary paperwork filed, turnaround times, cost, parts that were a major pita? I ask so others that would like to get one will know better what to expect.
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I wouldn't answer that......;)
 
I will be honest I bought the suppressor of a friend he needed money I don't use it nor would I carry with it that's just too much metal to try and draw. So I am going to be honest I have no permit and I am still doing my homework for those laws. I abbide by the law so i don't ever lose my right to bare. I would like to find out what it sounds like but I am affraid of breaking any laws there are about having and or using. I wouldn't use glazer rounds in a silencer in fear that the frangibile round would break inside and just be a worthless firecracker. I do own hollow popints and have used them in a range or should I say the sand pits around home. But I will just stick with my glazer ammo for home/personal protection. BTW what does HD stand for in this forum? I am still kinda new to firearm jargun.
 
What are most specop boys in Iraqi carrying these days? With the m4 how many clips are you carrying? It's been a while since I've paid attention to this. I'm assuming it depends on the areas you are in?

Any recent vet or active duty care to comment on what they were packing for situations? Obviously it changes if you suddenly come into an area where you expect more fire.....

How about the brits? Who's packing what over there? clips for sidearm as well?
 
USMC carries the M16A2-A4 series still and the carry 180rds. (6mags) and if allowed the M9 berreta one in the gun and (2) extra mags double stack I do believe. Didn't carry the M9 so I am just going from memory of my Corperals leg holster. What sexy la... I mean holster that was. SORRY!!!!
 
Just 1 and when I'm out and about in the forest with the mosin, i keep 5 clips (about 25 rounds total...). Unfortunately I have run into black bear and i'm not so sure the mosin would be able to repel it without at least a few shots.
-bix
 
Mousin??? Isn't that a rifle??? you didi say 5mags 25rds right?? If I am correct, and not trying to be a jerk, this is the HANDGUN autoloaders forum...

If you Mousin is a hand gun I am so sorry for being an ignorant jerk!!!:banghead:
 
Oh by the way I also have children and even though I lock up my weapon, you know how kids are today (lil thieves), they can get into anything and everything. So I don't keep a round chambered because they aren't stong enough (YET!) to pull back the slide.
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I'm training my son - 7 years old - that he does not touch a weapon without me or the wife around. He's also learned his 4 rules and to leave matches/lighters/knives alone as well.

We go to the range about every other week- he does pretty well considering he can't really handle the recoil as his hands don't fit the grip well. Thinking seriously about getting a Walther P22 for he and I to plink with as he's able to handle that grip and recoil all by himself.
 
I don't intend on killing someone unintentionally, i.e. my kids every manage to get a hold of the weapon and it goes off. and two I do believe that hollow point might be illegal to use in my state and or city, for use against humans.
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What do the police carry? I'd check into the hollowpoints issue. HIGHLY doubt they're illegal. I'll also second the Glazer thing- just seems like they won't penetrate to the vitals.

When it comes to a self defense shooting, you want something effective. Nothing's worse than a guy who previously wanted to kill you and now you've wounded him.
 
I will be honest I bought the suppressor of a friend he needed money
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If I'm not mistaken, possessing a silencer without the necessary Tax Stamp and paperwork *in your name* is a felony.

IE: buying it from a guy who needed money.
 
The Mosin could be a pistol as well. IIRC, they had a topbreak revolver.

If he's referring to that, then I think he'd do well to stay away from bear. :)

The rifle could probably take a bear with good shot placement. At least, I know it can take elk, and aren't they both about the same with recpect to firearms needed to drop them?
 
One. And the primary reason I carry that is because the magazine is generally the weakest point in the gun and the part most likely to cause a failure.

My 228 and my P30 both carry 15+1 rounds of 9mm - hopefully that's more than enough to get out of harm's way and save my arse.
 
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I will be honest I bought the suppressor of a friend he needed money I don't use it nor would I carry with it that's just too much metal to try and draw. So I am going to be honest I have no permit and I am still doing my homework for those laws. I abbide by the law so i don't ever lose my right to bare. I would like to find out what it sounds like but I am affraid of breaking any laws there are about having and or using. I wouldn't use glazer rounds in a silencer in fear that the frangibile round would break inside and just be a worthless firecracker. I do own hollow popints and have used them in a range or should I say the sand pits around home. But I will just stick with my glazer ammo for home/personal protection. BTW what does HD stand for in this forum? I am still kinda new to firearm jargun.
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You just admitted that both you and your friend violated Federal firearms law on a public discussion board that is monitored by the BATFE.

If you are a troll then I hope your Mom won't mind when the BATFE arrives at your house to search your room because you lied on here about having a silencer. She'll probably take your XBox away for awhile.

If you're telling the truth then I hope your wife and children don't mind when the BATFE arrives and takes you away for the next 10 years. You're friend who they will trace the silencer back one way or another will be pretty pissed at you for exposing his crime of selling it to you. He'll be going away for 10 years too.
 
USMCDK - Reghardless of what Massad Ayoob says, does the article actually provide any links to specific cases in which a person was convicted solely because of how many magazines he or she was carrying? Is that what you're saying - that the decision on whether self defense was justified depends on how many magazines you're carrying? I think that many of these arguments are based on "urban legend" and on cases in which we don't have all the facts. Perhaps the shooting was questionable for other reasons - the shooting was not justified just because lawful gun owner pulled the trigger. People screw up, it happens.

This reminds me of the "should I use a smaller gun" argument. The theory is that you arm youself as lightly as possible to make it look "better" to a DA or jury.

I think this argument doesn't hold water. I'll explain.

You are allowed to use deadly force to protect yourself ONLY in times in which you feel that you're in danger of death or severe traumatic injury (rape for example.)

If you TRULY feel that, during an attack, that you were going to DIE - as in "no go home" - then WHO CARES what the DA or the jury thinks? You were going to DIE. If defending my life has legal consequences SO BE IT. They can come take me away.

I believe that this argument is primarily brought up by people who perhaps shot when they shouldn't have and want to try and make it look "better."

You hear similar arguments when people try and state that you should use an inexpensive pistol because you're "definitely" going to lose it "forever" if you ever have to defend your life with it. Even if that was the case, and in some cases it may, WHO CARES. It saved your life. Buy another one.
 
AAAAHHHH!!! I don't think I am a troll (*** is that???) and as for the silencer it's not a real one I found out, it's one of those darn look alike ones :banghead: that doesn't reduce any Dbls I called him after reading your post wuchak, thank you by the way!!! If they do come to my door that's fine I will gladly let them in and search, like I said I am a law abbiding citizen and I on this forum to find out the laws and all that political/legal jazz.

As for the article the only link it gave was the one to this website and this thread specifically. But if you can find that magazine I highly suggest reading it.
 
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