How many people use Bore Guides when cleaning their guns?

[hps1]

Just relating what the Garand Collector's Assoc. and the CMP have published. Y'all ought to look into it.

Not doubting your quote at all, just have a different perspective than the authors of the article. No bore gauge needed to see the muzzle wear on every Blue Sky M1 I ever saw and there could only be one cause. Admittedly these rifles are prime example of extreme abuse w/about the worst cleaning rods on earth.

As taliv and Walkalong, my cleaning regimen was developed over a lot of years of competitive shooting, but I use same on .22 RF rifles, factory hunting rifles as well as target rifles. Not sayin' it's for everyone, I just try to coax the most accuracy and extend barrel life out of each.

Someone mentioned not being able to carry one piece cleaning rods into the field. Ever since my hunting partner let his rifle slip off his sticks, jamming muzzle in the sand, I carry a long .22 solid coated rod in a capped piece of 1/2" PVC pipe behind the back seat of my pickup. Also made and carry a couple of really handy (especially for .22 RF) pull through by cutting a 10" (for pistols) & a 30" piece of string trimmer line sharp on one end then pressing opposite end on a flat surface after heating w/a match to produce a head. You can then push a proper size patch onto sharp end and pull through bore carefully and avoid any possibility of barrel wear. Both fit nicely, along w/assorted patches in a shoe polish or pellet can.The nylon is stiff enough to push through sand or snow packed in a .243 barrel.



Regards,
hps

 

[jdc1244]

A little off-topic, but the issue with regard to damaging the crown has more to do with the type of cleaning rod used rather than the lack of using a bore guide – segmented cleaning rods in particular, where an uneven segment or joint might damage the crown when the rod is removed.

Again, a bore guide makes cleaning easier, that it helps prevent damage to the rifle is a bonus.

 

[JFrank]

Without reading every single post and all prospectives are valid in there own right. I will add and thus might have been pointed out that quality barrels installed can run $6-700.00 and burn out quickly in a Benchrest rifle, most have to wait in line also so it’s best to take every precaution.
Bore guides also protect the $1500 action and$2-400 trigger as well as provide the proverbial guide itself. The benefits outweigh any possible negative aspects if any exsist. Not one single competitor I know of will tell you they are not worth the very few dollars they cost.
J

 

[Walkalong]

but the issue with regard to damaging the crown

Cleaning from the breech as we want to vs cleaning from the barrel end when we have to are two different things.

All of my comments about bore guides are when using them as intended cleaning from the breech. This is to protect the throat are from a flexing rod scrubbing against them from flexing and not being centered. A good bore guide keeps the rod centered and helps us keep the rod from flexing too much and scrubbing hard against the throat/lands. We have to help here and not use patches that are too tight and make the rod flex unreasonably.

While one can do damage to the crown when cleaning from the breech, that would be on the user, not the equipment.

 

[Rule3]

The only failure is doing it in a way that will satisfy you. Since I feel like you are simply being difficult for your own amusement, I am satisfied with the reasons posters have put forth to use a bore guide with rifles. The pistol thing is just silly, although I also use care in cleaning them when I do.

Well you thought (felt) wrong, sometime, some people just might not agree with you. If doesn't conform to you beliefs (or others) then it is "silly"?

Then of course we can debate the use of "bronze bore brushes" To use or not to use? To use patches only or use nylon? Never ever pull a bronze brush backwards etc etc.

https://www.accurateshooter.com/technical-articles/barrel-cleaning-debate/

 

[JFrank]

I always use bore guides for both my centerfire and rimfire rifles. I also use stainless steel one piece rods for all my cleaning.

The one thing I would probably shy away from is stainless steel anything in the barrel, preferably carbon rod with brass jags and of course bronze brush rather then Nylon.
J

 

[George Foster]

I would say that a carbon rod can break on you in the barrel where a stainless steel rod won't, I certainly don't use stainless steel brushes. I also use nylon brushes 99.9% of the time, I don't use brass jags, I use Bore tech jags that don't give a false positive of copper fouling, the same will occur with bronze brushes. The only time I use bronze brushes is when I know the rifle is copper fouled and I want to clean it out ASAP.

 

[JFrank]

^^
Yes Sir
A good point of view, I just believe that brass and bronze ( hopefully Carbon) will not harm steel. Nylon on the other had although I own and use them has me wondering sometimes.
What is your opinion on the coating that is used on these cleaning rods while using Bore Tech
J

 

[George Foster]

I don't use coated rods such as Dewey, I use Pro Shot Stainless Steel Rods.

 

[Walkalong]

I have coated rods and one carbon fiber rod. I am not sure it really matters as long as they are clean and wiped off each pass.
I also spray them and wipe them down to start and sometimes during.

The soft coating can get stuff embedded in it, vs the SS rods that should be immune from that. That is usually the debate between the two types anyway.

 

[DoubleMag]

My name is Pete, but, easier just to RePete

Forced to clean from muzzle, I guess sometimes the solution is too simple, use a bore foam i.e. WipeOut, leave it set for a few hours/ longer is better, spray the blue goo that was in the bore out the end. If you really want to get fancy put some oil on a boresnake & pull it through.

Or better yet just borefoam for everything followed by a pull through snake with some XXXbrand oil. Raise your right hand, repeat after me; ''I will never nick, ding, or otherwise ever~ever hurt my barrel chamber, throat, muzzle , or anything inbetween using XXXbrand borefoam.''

Or further my name could be RePeter, if it helps with the easiest method of thorough cleaning...

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...guides-when-cleaning-their-guns.861139/page-2

Now, perhaps if still by some strangeness the cleanerperson is wanting to STILL struggle, stress, sweat. Set a timer and do running in place exercises, deep leg bends etc. For that over-doing it you would need the RePeterMeter

 

[JFrank]

^^^
Cute trick