How old are these primers????

[Bullseye25]

I acquired an old box of primers from a friend that picked them up in a garage sale. Age unknown. Does anyone know when Remington stopped using this label?

Out of 100, only about 80 fired on the first strike of the pin. The other 20 needed a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th strike before firing. But they all did fire.

 

[ole farmerbuck]

I dont know the age but are you sure you had them seated all the way? Should have worked the first time.

 

[Bullseye25]

Yes I inspected each one that didn't fire very closely. I didn't notice any improperly seated primers. Just wondering if any long time reloaders recognize the packaging for these Remington primers. I have a feeling they are over 20 years old, maybe 30ish

 

[Shimitup]

I'm thinking late 40 ish, my 30 year old ones are boxed in green and orange or something like that

 

[R.W.Dale]

Were the cups convex in shape?

If not they're newer than early 50's or so.

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[medalguy]

Age and storage are not a big concern with primers. They should be good for many years in the original containers. I'd also guess not properly seated full depth. Are you seating .003-.004 below the base of the brass?

 

[gamestalker]

If they eventually fired after the 2nd or 3rd try, they needed to be seated deeper. That right there is classic of shallow seated primers. If they were bad primer due to age or exposure to the elements, they would have likely not fired at all, but that would be a really rare occurance.

 

[jcwit]

Those are from the mid 50's, I have primers from the 30's and 40's that still are firring just fine.

Inspecting the primer after the first attempt of firing and not having it go off is useless as far as to determine if it was not seated correctly. By then the firing pin has now seated the primer correctly. Check primers before fireing.

 

[54lariat]

+1 on the seating depth.
I have some boxes of primers that are older than I and they all have worked fine. Still
Have another 3k left. As long as they are dry they seem to outlast a lot of things.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I guess there's no reason to say the primers were probably seated incorrectly...

 

[coalman]

What gun? Just curious. Striker-fired guns don't hit the primer with as much follow-through/force. Hammer-fired guns can have enough force to seat and also ignite non-fully seated primers, while also igniting those primers that may be harder. Regardless, likely that primers were not seated fully as has been well covered. I've fired some of those primers pictured in the last few years without issue.

 

[FROGO207]

OP I am also curious what you used them in. 1 1/2 Remington primers are for "light revolver pistol" use. These days we call them small pistol primers. If you were using them in a rifle they could become a problem due to the higher pressures produced acting on the thinner cups. At first I thought you might be exchanging LP for LR as they are different heights and the LP would be improperly seated in a rifle case due to a deeper primer pockets and cause the problems you did experience. Just my thoughts on what I have experienced in the past.

 

[YankeeFlyr]

I'm with 'jcwit'; that packaging pre-dates zip codes. There are none on the back of the box.

 

[floydster]

I don't think your primers were seated properly

 

[Bullseye25]

Today I just fired off 150 rounds of the same loads with brand new cci primers and they all went bang the first time. They were loaded on the same press in the same manner, fired from the same Dan Wesson .357

Maybe there was a chance that there were seating issues, but nothing I could recognize that was different than today's loads.

 

[357 Terms]

Well, they are probably very old, as so far nobody can date them.

I would say that if you haven't had problems with primers igniting on your loads before that the age or storage may be the problem.

 

[Bullseye25]

Any long-time reloaders recognize these old labels?

I have another box of old Remington primers. Does anyone recognize when Remington last used this type of label? Any ideas? I'm just curious.

These are large pistol and I'm not currently set up for anything with large pistol primers. I will test them eventually.

Also, can anyone give a ballpark date on the CCI boxes in the picture???

 

[kingmt]

You should always check your loads right off the press. After fireing them it is little hard. It is even harder with different components.

 

[357 Terms]

Thats good stuff!

I have no idea.

My oldest CCI stuff is white with orange lettering, a little longer, wider than a book of matches.

I have seen guys selling old empty containers for like 5 or six bucks, maybe you should not shoot them and see if anyone has an interest.

 

[FROGO207]

My grandfather had some of that style green Remington boxes. He said from the 40's IIRC. I have collected some CCI's from the late 60's on up and none that look like those boxes.

 

[Rollis R. Karvellis]

I, also have some of the blue, white, and black, CCI's. They are working fine in my 45's.