How the other side thinks - Incredible

[usmarine0352_2005]

.
A classmate posted this statement on their Facebook. It really goes to show how they think. Self-defense is obviously morally wrong.

.
"To prepare to be violent, is to be morally guilty of violence. To carry a handgun, is to be morally guilty of murder. You can not carry a weapon without having already chosen to use it... The moral crime has already been committed" - Anonymous
.

.

 

[Teachu2]

Anonymous = Nobody Would Admit To Thinking It, Much Less Saying It!

 

[MagnumWill]

I sure wish criminals had morals, or this whole crime/drugs/murder thing would be a hell of a lot easier!

...but they don't. Make sure you reply "Delusional." And that's it.

Better yet, get rid of FB. It's done wonders for my nerves.

 

[Thursday45]

Thought crimes huh? Let me know how bullet proof your moral "superiority" is...

 

[gego]

Look at the bright side. Someone who refuses to defend himself is in danger of being sent to the scrap heap of history. Maybe Darwin has it right.

Carrying is like having insurance on your home, car, health or life. You don't expect to use it, but should you need it but not have it, your are in big trouble.

 

[Ignition Override]

Dare them to watch excellent testimony (opposite Sen. Schumer) by Suzanne Gratia-Hupp, who then ran for Congress and beat her opponents.

Suzanne's compliance with Texas gun laws at that time -no carry- helped allow her parents to be murdered in the notorious Luby's massacre.

 

[Blackstone]

There are stupid people everywhere.

 

[MichigammeDave]

And living in a town which employs an armed police force is to be morally guilty of hiring someone to commit murder on your behalf. Not to mention, calling 911 is to be morally guilty of instructing that employee to prepare to commit that murder.
Come to think of it, living in a country which employs a standing army is to be morally guilty of hiring a whole bunch of people to commit mass murder on your behalf - using weapons designed for the sole purpose of killing large numbers of people.
How does it feel?

 

[InkEd]

I would hope to God that if you carry a weapon you are prepared to use it.

 

[beatledog7]

Part of the quote in absolutely true:

You can not carry a weapon without having already chosen to use it...

..only in your defense or in the defense of others and only when the situation warrants and there is no alternative.

That IS why we carry. If you don't think that way, please don't carry.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Actually, even that part isn't completely true. There have definitely been examples of people carrying weapons they were not prepared to use. And use of a weapon doesn't necessarily mean you plan to murder someone, as any Boy Scout can tell you.

 

[Elkins45]

And living in a town which employs an armed police force is to be morally guilty of hiring someone to commit murder on your behalf. Not to mention, calling 911 is to be morally guilty of instructing that employee to prepare to commit that murder.
Come to think of it, living in a country which employs a standing army is to be morally guilty of hiring a whole bunch of people to commit mass murder on your behalf - using weapons designed for the sole purpose of killing large numbers of people.
How does it feel?

Dude, you nailed it!

It's just like the people who eat meat but hate hunting: how are you morally superior to me because you hire someone else to do your slaughter for you?

 

[beatledog7]

Actually, even that part isn't completely true. There have definitely been examples of people carrying weapons they were not prepared to use.

True, but that doesn't mean they should be carrying. The right to carry must be balanced by the proper mindset for carry.

 

[Hacker15E]

Just because someone writes a statement which uses sophisticated-sounding prose doesn't mean there is any validity to the logic or epistemology behind it.

That being said, there are not-so-obscure moral belief systems where there is no difference between homicide and murder. They just aren't the norm in modern, western society.

 

[Blackstone]

I made a statement that people who are more knowledgable about gun laws and how guns work tend to be less in favour of more controls.

Immediately, some anti replies with "Oh really? People that like guns (and therefore are interested in stuff about them) tend to be against gun control?"

So he's equated understanding guns and laws around them to liking guns. How dare I ask that people are informed and knowledgable about the things they wish to legislate against.

 

[joeschmoe]

"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest" - Mahatma Gandhi

 

[TCB in TN]

Self defense is moral, the act of not defending oneself is morally repugnant. Individuals who refuse to defend those who depend on them (their loved ones etc) belong to a class that I cannot describe and remain Highroad. Every major religion I have ever been around or read about does not consider self defense a sin.

 

[joeschmoe]

"“I have been repeating over and over again that he who cannot protect himself or his nearest and dearest or their honour by non-violently facing death may and ought to do so by violently dealing with the oppressor. He who can do neither of the two is a burden. He has no business to be the head of a family. He must either hide himself, or must rest content to live for ever in helplessness and be prepared to crawl like a worm at the bidding of a bully”

“Though violence is not lawful, when it is offered in self-defence or for the defence of the defenceless, it is an act of bravery far better than cowardly submission. The latter befits neither man nor woman. Under violence, there are many stages and varieties of bravery. Every man must judge this for himself. No other person can or has the right” - Mahatma Gandhi

 

[joeschmoe]

"Far better than emasculation would be the bravery of those who use physical force. Far better than cowardice would be meeting one's death fighting.
Nature abhors weakness.
Self-defense . . . is the only honorable course where there is unreadiness for self-immolation.
…When my eldest son asked me what he should have done, had he been present when I was almost fatally assaulted in 1908, whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use, and defended me, I told him that it was his duty to defend me even by using violence.
Hence also do I advocate training in arms for those who believe in the method of violence. I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honor than that she should in a cowardly manner become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonor.
…A man who, when faced by danger, behaves like a mouse, is rightly called a coward.
[When violence] is offered in self-defense or for the defense of the defenseless, it is an act of bravery far better than cowardly submission.
My nonviolence does not admit of running away from danger and leaving dear ones unprotected. Between violence and cowardly flight, I can only prefer violence to cowardice. I can no more preach nonviolence to a coward than I can tempt a blind man to enjoy healthy scenes."

- Mahatma Gandhi

 

[leroy]

Exodus 22:2

BBE If a thief is taken in the act of forcing his way into a house, and his death is caused by a blow, the owner of the house is not responsible for his blood.

ISV “If a thief is found while breaking into a house, and is struck down and dies, it is not a capital crime in that case,

Just a couple versions of Exodus 22:2 illustrating the principal of self defense.

 

[Armored farmer]

I sure wish criminals had morals, or this whole crime/drugs/murder thing would be a hell of a lot easier!

^^well said....I can't improve on that^^ +1

 

[Slamfire]

A classmate posted this statement on their Facebook. It really goes to show how they think. Self-defense is obviously morally wrong.

"To prepare to be violent, is to be morally guilty of violence. To carry a handgun, is to be morally guilty of murder. You can not carry a weapon without having already chosen to use it... The moral crime has already been committed" - Anonymous

.

All goes to prove that some people are dumber than domestic turkeys.

 

[firesky101]

I personally don't consider stopping someone from killing me or mine murder.

 

[Coop45]

.
A classmate posted this statement on their Facebook. It really goes to show how they think. Self-defense is obviously morally wrong.




.

I'm certain that he isn't an 0311. Surely your DI told you about people like that.
S/F Mac

 

[r1derbike]

It appears the author has accepted the moral crime of submitting to violent victimization.

Thank God we have independent, intellectually stimulated thinkers who refuse to become quaking, subordinate pawns in the face of violence.

Thank God we have intellectually sound individuals who would never engage in facetious condemnation, as stated in the anonymous prose in the original post.