iiibdsiil
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If I had an attitude like him I wouldn't want her having a real gun either...
How to tick off your wife when buying her a handgun.
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Technosavant
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Not a bad point.
I only WISH my wife wanted a gun of her own (it would make Christmas shopping easier...). She doesn't mind my enthusiasm for firearms (and subtly endorses it), but she doesn't have personal interest in them. I would be overjoyed to take to to a gun store and let her run rampant trying to find one she wants. I'd just hang back with a smile on my face while she finds one to her liking.
Seminole
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While the guy is obviously an idiot, you obviously overlooked the fact that idiots don't like to be told they're idiots. I've found that it's usually a good idea to stay out of arguments that don't involve me.
Dr. Peter Venkman
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Marriage is when in an argument you must accept that 2 + 2 = 5 otherwise your ass is on the couch.
It's too bad that the husband here was an idiot.
It's too bad that the husband here was an idiot.
Tom Servo
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Pax is absolutely right in her article.
I work in a gun shop, and we get this all the time. Usually, the man is alone, and his wife "wants" a Kel-Tec .380, .357 airweight snubnose, or some other such combination of impracticality and abusive recoil.
In those cases, I stress as much as possible that they bring their wife in. Yeah, I hear, "what's a good gun for a woman?" all the time. People seem to think that means small & light.
I have to explain that small and light means "hard to shoot well," especially if it's a first gun. In reality, the husband isn't the expert he claims. He shoots once a year, and like crap when he does.
Best-case scenario is if I can get the woman to come in alone. Then I can spend some time teaching her about various types without Grog the Male Dominator hanging over her shoulder and grunting "expert" buying suggestions.
Most commonly bought gun by female first-timers? Beretta 92FS or S&W K/L frame revolver. The Ruger SP101 is also a common choice. Once they're educated, very few women end up with what their male compatriots suggest.
I can also teach them to out-shoot their husbands, which is always fun
I work in a gun shop, and we get this all the time. Usually, the man is alone, and his wife "wants" a Kel-Tec .380, .357 airweight snubnose, or some other such combination of impracticality and abusive recoil.
In those cases, I stress as much as possible that they bring their wife in. Yeah, I hear, "what's a good gun for a woman?" all the time. People seem to think that means small & light.
I have to explain that small and light means "hard to shoot well," especially if it's a first gun. In reality, the husband isn't the expert he claims. He shoots once a year, and like crap when he does.
Best-case scenario is if I can get the woman to come in alone. Then I can spend some time teaching her about various types without Grog the Male Dominator hanging over her shoulder and grunting "expert" buying suggestions.
Most commonly bought gun by female first-timers? Beretta 92FS or S&W K/L frame revolver. The Ruger SP101 is also a common choice. Once they're educated, very few women end up with what their male compatriots suggest.
I can also teach them to out-shoot their husbands, which is always fun
I would be overjoyed if my wife expressed any interest in wanting her own gun, and would gladly buy her WHATEVER she wanted. Of course, if she ever did decide to get one, I would probably end up picking it for her, as she is not very good at deciding things, and is really not interested in anything more than making the coke cans 20 feet away explode.
And the female owner of my gun shop has stated that if wife decides to get a gun, then she won't let me be there to help her find one anyway
And the female owner of my gun shop has stated that if wife decides to get a gun, then she won't let me be there to help her find one anyway
BridgeWalker
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And probably doesn't take very long, I'm guessing?
Tom Servo
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Nope, it doesn't. Women are fun to teach. They don't have any predetermined conceptions about what shooting "should" entail. They're receptive to criticism, they listen, and they're very concerned with safety.
tydephan
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It's refreshing to see that so many dudes here get the big picture.
Like so many things in life, it's about the middle-ground.
I have spent way too much time studying firearms and gaining knowledge in my quest for the perfect hunting/self-defense/target/pocketcarry/whattowearatthebeachwhilesunbathing gun.
It would indeed be a partial waste of that knowledge if I could not impart at least some of it on my wife while she is making a decision. "Yes honey that's a very nice gun. Here are some of the positive things I've experienced with it and here are some of the negative things."
As a husband, I see no issue with informing. I do not push. I remain objective. And she knows it is her choice and is very appreciative.
Basically, I treat her no different than other dudes that I help make the same decision. I recently helped my cousin pick out a firearm.
Him: "Craig at work told me I needed to buy a Glock."
Me: "Ok. Have you ever shot one?
Him: "No. But he said it's the best."
Me: "Ok. It may be the best for him. It's a great gun, but let's shoot some other guns and see what you feel the most comfortable with." [Btw...I consider this the greatest thing about having a nice collection and assortment of firearms]
As it turns out...he didn't like the Glock at all and couldn't hit the broadside of a bull's butt with a base fiddle. He ended up settling on the XD.
Like so many things in life, it's about the middle-ground.
I have spent way too much time studying firearms and gaining knowledge in my quest for the perfect hunting/self-defense/target/pocketcarry/whattowearatthebeachwhilesunbathing gun.
It would indeed be a partial waste of that knowledge if I could not impart at least some of it on my wife while she is making a decision. "Yes honey that's a very nice gun. Here are some of the positive things I've experienced with it and here are some of the negative things."
As a husband, I see no issue with informing. I do not push. I remain objective. And she knows it is her choice and is very appreciative.
Basically, I treat her no different than other dudes that I help make the same decision. I recently helped my cousin pick out a firearm.
Him: "Craig at work told me I needed to buy a Glock."
Me: "Ok. Have you ever shot one?
Him: "No. But he said it's the best."
Me: "Ok. It may be the best for him. It's a great gun, but let's shoot some other guns and see what you feel the most comfortable with." [Btw...I consider this the greatest thing about having a nice collection and assortment of firearms]
As it turns out...he didn't like the Glock at all and couldn't hit the broadside of a bull's butt with a base fiddle. He ended up settling on the XD.
K3
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My wife really wants a .45 of some sort.
I told her she ain't getting one....
...unless I do too!
I am a lucky guy. I think she could handle a .44mag just fine. She shot my M44 a few months ago. She said 'That's got a little kick to it'.
I told her she ain't getting one....
...unless I do too!
I am a lucky guy. I think she could handle a .44mag just fine. She shot my M44 a few months ago. She said 'That's got a little kick to it'.
Tom Servo
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And that's the difference. The problem lies in guys who come in and dominate the conversation (sometimes to the point I wonder if it's really a straw purchase). They'll pick out a gun THEY think is good and cram it into the wife's hand.
When the wife complains she doesn't like the way it feels, they seem to pay no attention. They seem to enjoy their little moment in the sun as "experts."
Boy, do I love deflating that
Most of the guys have no clue.No way a 5', 96lb person of any gender needs a Glock 27 as a first gun...
El Tejon
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Yeah, remember the universal rule of the gun culture--"the subjective is objective"--applies to them womenfolk too.
IME, the overwhelming majority of my girlfriends have been inclined to the 1911. Let them pick. No sense making decisions for them as you will only lose, and then continue to lose, and lose, and lose, then lose some more.
Remember these two key words for any relationship--"Yes, dear."
IME, the overwhelming majority of my girlfriends have been inclined to the 1911. Let them pick. No sense making decisions for them as you will only lose, and then continue to lose, and lose, and lose, then lose some more.
Remember these two key words for any relationship--"Yes, dear."
My wife used to be a fence sitter about guns, but she went gold mining with one of her freind's from work, and he let her shoot his .44. She said "It bruised my hand a little, but I hit all the cans" with a big smile on her face. I probably never would have gotten her to even look at my guns, but now she actually seems a little interested. I was thinking of picking up a .22 kit for my CZ to teach her, but if she can hit stuff with a .44, I think little old 5'2" 115lb her can handle a 9mm .
ozarkman
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I guess I'm just spoiled. My better half has actually asked me "Honey, don't you need a new gun?? We should get you a new one" Of course she carries her Sig P239 and is deadly accurate with it as well. It was actually a gift to her from me, and I suppose it has sentimental value to her as well. But, it is cool when your wife asks if she can get you a new gun. Gotta love those mountain girls
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Jamie C.
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Well, first off, I've had 3 wives now, so I think it's safe to say I'm pretty well versed in how to tick 'em off...
Having said that though, it's entirely possible that the fellow in the store knows his wife better than any of us do, and knows she won't go to the time or trouble to learn how to actually use a gun, and is trying to find something simple to placate his wife's urge to "be like the lady on TV". After all, she wouldn't be the first person to see something on the idiot box and decide "I wanna do that", without having any idea at all as to what it actually takes.
( One of my ex-wives had quite a few dollars tied up in supplies for various hobbies that she decided she just really didn't want to do after all, once she had spent a small fortune trying to "buy" skills she just didn't have and never would. )
It's also entirely possible that the husband in the OP was just an egotistical, know-it-all jerk.
No real way of telling from here... *shrug*
J.C.
Having said that though, it's entirely possible that the fellow in the store knows his wife better than any of us do, and knows she won't go to the time or trouble to learn how to actually use a gun, and is trying to find something simple to placate his wife's urge to "be like the lady on TV". After all, she wouldn't be the first person to see something on the idiot box and decide "I wanna do that", without having any idea at all as to what it actually takes.
( One of my ex-wives had quite a few dollars tied up in supplies for various hobbies that she decided she just really didn't want to do after all, once she had spent a small fortune trying to "buy" skills she just didn't have and never would. )
It's also entirely possible that the husband in the OP was just an egotistical, know-it-all jerk.
No real way of telling from here... *shrug*
J.C.
jakemccoy
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sad but best to stay out
BridgeWalker
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Yes, it is.
'Nuff said.
Jamie C.
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Delta... Divorcing 'em seems to be the most effective way to do it. Especially when you have a better attorney than they do. 
I should probably mention that I've never pissed one of over what type of gun she wanted, and that I did teach all 3 to shoot.
Hell, I even let my first one take a customized S&W 66 with her when she went.
( Don't cry, folks... it was worth it to get her gone. )
J.C.
I should probably mention that I've never pissed one of over what type of gun she wanted, and that I did teach all 3 to shoot.
Hell, I even let my first one take a customized S&W 66 with her when she went.
( Don't cry, folks... it was worth it to get her gone. )
J.C.
Jamie C.
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S.M., it was a joke. Read my post to Delta9 and maybe you'll see that a little more clearly.
Again, as I said in my first post, there's a very real chance that the fellow in the store knows something about his wife that none of us does, and that things may not be what they first appear to be.
J.C.
BridgeWalker
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Unlikely. But as you said in your first post, there's a very real chance that you're just bad at not ticking women off.
Clue: It might not be us that's the problem there....
ColinthePilot
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before I was really into shooting, I took the advice of a friend. We originally went shopping for Kel-Tecs but I found them to be a bit small for my hands. Now I thoroughly research, handle and if possible shoot every gun I'm considering buying. It hasn't steered me wrong yet. I'm not married and I've never bought for anyone else, but I have had some successful range dates. I've found that the size of the gun and/or ammo can be intimidating. Most girls don't mind the idea of shooting .22LR when they see the size of the cartridge but they are hesitant to take on a full size 9mm or .45. Rifle cartridges usually scare them a bit, but I explain everything, start them out on what they want (usually .22LR) and move them up from there. I would never tell them what they could shoot out of my collection, but I offer guidance to the inexperienced and they usually heed it.
BridgeWalker
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Fixed it for ya!
Plenty of people of both sexes find large calibers indimidating at first. I really regretted not having a .22 pistol for a male friend to try who was getting into shooting. He was *really* leery of the 9mm. He settled on a .40 when he bought himself a gun a couple weeks later, but was glad to play with my Marlin 60 a bit before getting into the 9mm.
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