Don't buy your wife or girlfriend a gun!

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I rant about this once in awhile and it's time again...

I don't know how many women have been permanently dissuaded from taking up shooting as a hobby, or even from occasionally practicing by a well meaning guy who buys them a gun.

I run into them now and then and it's very frustrating for me because the damage has usually already been done and is pretty hard if not impossible to undo.

Instead of just running to the gun shop and buying her a gun DO THIS!

1. Take her to shoot FIRST.
2. Let her shoot something that is FUN for a beginner to shoot. This does not include magnum handguns, large automatics with heavy springs, or ultralight guns with heavy loads. It does NOT include small revolvers in anything bigger than 22WMR.
3. Don't push her past her ability. A capably wielded .22LR pistol is much more use in a defensive encounter than a .357 snubbie that the shooter is afraid of.
4. Don't buy her anything that she doesn't like. Even "non-shooters" may have very firm ideas about what they want in a gun. My wife, for example, does not like stainless steel guns and hates revolvers. I want her to practice and to like shooting, so I don't buy her stainless guns or revolvers. She carries a single action .380. It's not what I would have bought her if it were left up to me, but she really LIKES the gun and so she has put forth the effort to get good with it.
5. Do your BEST to see that she gets a chance to shoot a similar gun before buying it for her. Recoil and shootability are VERY subjective--just because you like it and it's easy for you to shoot and operate is NOT a guarantee that it's a good choice for her.
6. Don't skimp when the TWO OF YOU finally decide on something. I've had several instructors mention to me that it's not unusual to have a husband and a wife in the same class. A lot of the time, the guy is shooting some tricked out high-dollar gun while the wife has some bottom of the barrel "bargain gun". You will almost certainly pay (in many different possible ways) if you buy her a piece of crap.

IF you follow this simple plan...

There are payoffs.

1. My wife goes shooting with me when I ask. She even asks to go some times on her own initiative.
2. My wife doesn't get too wound up when I buy a new gun. She has gone with me while we shop for guns for her and she knows what they cost and why sometimes you can't buy the cheap ones that look like they SHOULD work.
3. She never complains about the money I spend on gun clubs and range memberships--that's spent on US since she comes shooting with me occasionally.
4. We've won the company gun club Couples Match every time we've entered.

But most of all, I don't worry much when I have to travel or have to work late or when she has to drive downtown. She's a good shot and very capable with the guns she carries.
 
Great advice! BTW, congratulations on taking the Couples Match. :)
 
Damn, so it is not a good idea to let her shoot a .50 Desert Eagle her first time? j/k :D That is a good list.
 
so it is not a good idea to let her shoot a .50 Desert Eagle her first time?
:D Yeah, I know some of SEEMS like common sense, but I've actually heard at least one guy brag about taking a girl to shoot a .357 revolver, loading up a cylinder of .38s and slipping in one .357 for her first experience...
 
Yeah, I know some of SEEMS like common sense, but I've actually heard at least one guy brag about taking a girl to shoot a .357 revolver, loading up a cylinder of .38s and slipping in one .357 for her first experience...

I've heard a lot of bragging like that. I just don't understand it--that kind of stuff isn't funny unless you're fourteen years old.
 
I've actually seen antics like that. Some people really do use the gun to compensate for lack of manhood aparently.

Fortunately, most firearm owners are far more mature and in-touch with what's really important (defense, preservation and thriving of self and loved-ones.)
 
My father-in-law would take by wife shooting when she was younger. He
started her out with a .22 pistol. When we started dating I bought her
a .380 and myself a .38/.357 for when she wants to try the revolver.;)

When we (Me, wife and father-in-law) went to get our CCW's in Michigan,
she was able to out shoot 5 other men with years of experience above her.
The only two people she couldn't out shot was her father and myself. :D

Now, when my father-in-law and I got shooting, she gets Mad:eek: if we
don't include her. :evil:

I love it!
 
4. Don't buy her anything that she doesn't like.

This made all the difference in the world for my wife. She had grown up around guns, but was not really into them. When I came along, she would occasionally go shooting with me if asked, but wouldn't ask to go. Over the last few years, she has become more interested in self-protection and told me she was interested in getting a gun she could carry. I considered just picking out one for her, but decided against this. A few months ago she asked if we could stop at a gun shop and look.

To make a long story short, after handling numerous guns, she ended up with a .357 snubbie. She had previously fired 9mm, .40, .38, and .45 LC and didn't mind the recoil of .38. She also preferred the revolver to the semi-auto.

The only thing I would add to this list is not to assume anything. I would have thought a 9mm or .380 might have been a good choice, but whe she shot both she didn't like either. I would also never have thought that she would like .357. After shooting a few boxes of .38, she said she wanted to try .357 and she absolutely loved it. It made all the difference in the world that it was something that she liked/picked out.
 
Yeah, I know some of SEEMS like common sense, but I've actually heard at least one guy brag about taking a girl to shoot a .357 revolver, loading up a cylinder of .38s and slipping in one .357 for her first experience...

I have been known to slip a 3" 00 buck into a shotgun on a couple of occasions while shooting skeet with friends, but I would never do it to a new shooter. Of course, my wife would be the oddball. When I took her to teach her how to shoot, I took a .38 for her and a .45 ACP for me. I shot first with the .45, and she refused to shoot the .38. She wanted to shoot 'the big one'. 'Tain't funny, a grown man begging to get his gun back.
 
When my fiancee and I were first dating, I took her to the range for a date. She had grown up around guns, had learned to shoot when she was 8, and owns several guns already. She's all of 5'4", 95 lbs. soaking wet and didn't even hesitate to try out my 6" S&W 629 .44 Magnum. Of course, I helped her out by standing behind her, supportiing her wrists and cocking the weapon. She did all the aiming and trigger squeezing though. She hit the spinner 4 out of 6 times at about 25 yards. Needless to say, I was duly impressed and decided at that moment that I'd never make her angry. I also decided that she really was the woman for me! :D

Since that time, I've bought several guns for her. All of those times were only after she had gone with me to try out different ones to see what she liked best. So far, she's recieved a Taurus 85, a Beretta 3032, and a Remington 870 Youth 20 gauge. She's also all but claimed ownership of my AR-7 (She thinks it's cute, as well as fun.)

Frank
 
Take your w/gf shooting first, and usually she will claim one of your guns as hers. Then buy yourself one to replace the one she claimed. :D
 
Take your w/gf shooting first, and usually she will claim one of your guns as hers.
That happened with me. Unfortunately, the gun she claimed was my Colt Python. At least she lets me shoot it once in a while.
 
That is all good advice John. I started my wife out on a Ruger 22/45 she loved shooting at the spinning targets. She had so much fun I think she will start going with me more often.
 
Or better yet, don't buy her a gun at all. Let her buy it herself. She is a grown-up, right?

So what's with the paternalistic tone?
 
My wife's first gun was a 22 caliber Berretta 21 that she though was cute.

When the CCW law finally passed in Ohio I insisted she get a gun with a reasonable amount of stopping power.

We did some shopping, and she received a number of suggestions about getting a J-Frame revolver from other people. I didn't have any reason to disagree, and supported her decision to purchase a S&W 642 airweight.

It's a very nice gun and she shoots it well at reasonable distances. She really doesn't like 38 +P rounds in it, so I guess I need to get her some good regular pressure hollowpoints until she works up to the hotter rounds.

She's picking up her CCW permit from the Sherrif today.
 
A couple months after my wife and I got together, I started showing her my gun mags, She had'nt ever did alot of shooting, she did show some interest though. Didnt much care for my 1911, to heavy, didnt like the recoil. I showed her some options, kinda steering her towards a revolver. Then one day, out of the blue, she comes home carrying a little black tupperware lookng box.:eek: . Asked what I thought about this, A Glock 19 with two hicap mags:D . Turns out she had been reading my mags, went out and made the decision on her own, and did very well I thought. Was proud of her, even if it was a plastic gun:). Sometimes she even lets me shoot it, and to be honest , I kinda like it too :eek: Please dont tell my 1911:(
 
If she cant shoot a 10 shot, 2moa group at 300 yards with the .50bmg on the first date, I dont bother asking her out on a second. For some reason, I never get the chance, and what are all these restraining orders that keep showing up in my mailbox? They all say something about 'cruel and unusual punishment' being unconstitutional. :uhoh:

Kharn
(Yes, I'm joking, I dont own a .50. Yet. :evil: )
 
Or better yet, don't buy her a gun at all. Let her buy it herself. She is a grown-up, right?

Heck, we've had posters here claim that women are outright too stupid to buy a gun. So I'd say this topic is better than average for TFL in that regard. :scrutiny:

The SMART way to go if you have more experience with guns than she does is to introduce her to a bunch of stuff, give factual advice, and then get out of the way and let her decide. And spend her own money. :D

As a side note to the guys, even if she like shooting she probalby won't appreciate a gun as a gift, at least not for a romantic "chick" event like Valentine's Day or an anniversary. When she's sitting around talking to her girlfriends in the Romantic Event After Action Review about what you got her, she isn't going to want to tell them about what gun she just got.

And if she does, consider taking up polygamy. :evil:
 
We're getting a membership to the range-pay once and all your range time and rentals are covered. Just need to buy the ammo.

So she will get to shoot a great variety of weapons before making a choice.

Of course the rental only cover a few brands but do cover most of the calibers so she should find the right caliber if not the right gun.
 
well put, sir!

...i like my bushmaster best, but my aim is just as good with my cast iron skillet. (oh yeah...'mama says goodnight!')

as a female, i concur with most of the original post. and i will say that i wish more men would be as perceptive as the initiator of this post, LOL!

with humour.
vasilia
 
Or better yet, don't buy her a gun at all. Let her buy it herself. She is a grown-up, right?

So what's with the paternalistic tone?
Good point--of course, in some cases there's no need to even get involved.

My wife bought her first gun without any help from me. BUT, that would have been the end of it for her. She did practice occasionally, but wasn't much interested in getting into shooting any deeper than that. She understood the need for self-defense but hadn't made the jump to really enjoying it as a hobby.

Helping her find some guns that were a little more fun to shoot than her carry gun and getting her interested in competition has helped her become an even better shooter since she's shooting more. At the same time, it's become something we can enjoy together.

If that's too paternalistic then shoot me... ;)
 
Or better yet, don't buy her a gun at all. Let her buy it herself. She is a grown-up, right?


we are talking about women over 18 and under 40 right? i only know one woman under 40 with the maturity for a gun. Its her birth day in 2 weeks and doesn't know it but she's getting walther 22 as her birthday present.
 
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