How to transfer gun from NY to MA?

[GAMALOT]

I am hoping someone here might know the particulars on what must be done to transfer a legally owned hand gun from a CCW permitted NY owner to a CCW permitted MA purchaser.

I am being told by the MA purchaser that his state will not allow interstate transfers even thru a FFL dealer.

Any one have any insight into this?

Thanks

Gary

 

[Tory]

Not quite

I am being told by the MA purchaser that his state will not allow interstate transfers even thru a FFL dealer.

The issue is whether the gun is:

1. On the Approved Firearms Roster; or

2. Was made prior to 10/98.

If the gun does not fall into either category, a Mass. dealer may not transfer it to a Mass. resident.

 

[GAMALOT]

Thanks Tory, maybe you know!
The gun is a 475 Wildey Magnum and was made around 1993.
Actually, I think it was made in the state of MA!

Gary

 

[brickeyee]

I think Wildey is in Connecticut. Cheshire rings a bell, but they use Warren now.

 

[GAMALOT]

You are correct, my mistake.
I do think both states are equally as tuff on the rules of trade with weapons.

Thanks.

Gary

 

[cbsbyte]

check out this site on Mass gun laws. www.goal.org

 

[GAMALOT]

Thanks cbsbyte, it appears if I have a FFL dealer here and he has one there then this should be OK and possible.

As far as I can tell this is the same rule I would have to follow if selling it to a NY resident.

Gary

 

[ABTOMAT]

Don't pre-98 handguns have to have been in MA since before '98 in order to transfer? No pre-98 imports, IIRC, according to the 98GCA itself. I believe the AG's list doesn't make the distinction, though.

 

[cbsbyte]

The buyer must also have at least a Class B LTC. I also believe ABTOMAT is correct in that state law does not exempt handguns made before 1998 from the handgun control act. It looks like you can not transfer the gun to the buyer through a Mass FFL dealer.

http://www.goal.org/misc/faq/handgunsales.html

In order for a dealer to sell a handgun in Massachusetts a gun must be on the Approved Weapons Roster. There is only one exemption, established by section 79 of Chapter 180 of the Acts of 1998:“SECTION 79. Clause Eighteenth to Twenty-first, inclusive, of said section 123 of said chapter 140, inserted by section 19 of this act, shall not apply to any firearm lawfully owned or possessed under a license issued under said chapter 140 on the effective date of this act.”

 

[GAMALOT]

Thanks guys, for the not so good info!
Guess I will always have to wonder *** they are accomplishing by such idiotic rules/laws.

How many states can you stop at a yard sale, buy a gun and then do what ever you do with it?

Laws are fine until they restrict legal, law abiding citizens from being free to do legal, law abiding activities!

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

gary

 

[ABTOMAT]

Off the top of my inaccurate head, only a handful of sates have laws even remotely like this. MA and NJ are probably the worst by far. I think nearly all other states have no in-state transfer paperwork surrounding "normal" long guns, and nearly all but a few more (CA, HI, NY, and a couple "in the middle"?) are free of it involving hanguns or "evil" long guns.

Only two or three states have approved lists or hard safety requirements.

In MA if I were to buy a single-barrel shotgun made in 1901 from a yard sale, I'd need an FID, I'd have to mail in a transfer form, and I suppose the seller would need an FID too unless it was some kind of inheritance deal. One thing I've always wondered is how they handle filling out the forms on pre-'68 guns with no serial numbers.

 

[gezzer]

IMHO it will take a dealer to dealer transfer. You definitly want the firearm off your permit in NY

 

[EddieCoyle]

There's one way that I can think of: move to MA and do a face to face transfer. The law prevents dealers from making transfers, but not private individuals.

If the gun was on the C&R list (it's not) then the recipient could get it if he has a C&R FFL.

The only other way would be for the recipient to find an FFL willing to do the transfer. It has been known to happen; some dealers have interesting interpretations of the law, and others require very little proof of a gun's pre-98 Mass pedigree. The recipient would not be breaking any laws.

The law stinks. It prevents us from obtaining lots of cool handguns. Any non-C&R guns not currently being manufactured, and any new guns that are not on the list can't be transferred into Mass. As a result, it has really driven up the prices of non-roster used guns that are in-state.