Huh. Ruger cerakoted my Wrangler bore. No wonder its inaccurate.

[Rule3]

Do you use a backer behind your target?
Some of your keyholes look more like torn holes from not having something like cardboard or plywood behind the paper.
Either way, that's not acceptable grouping from 10 yards.

Several have asked him that,He does not seem to want to answer??

As for the Ruger target, I find that hard to believe??
His other thread or two was closed so had to start another rant.

 

[DukeConnor]

Your guns suck but at least you got a free ruger cleaning cloth out of the deal.

 

[ontarget]

You real sure about that, an awfully lot of AR barrels have coatings in the bore and shoot fine.
Ruger used mini mags no keyholes.
And the target OP posted isn't the one they shot for accuracy the ticket clearly states the shot 6 for accuracy and another 12 to see if it would keyhole.

32 years worth here 2 spent on a CAU team diagnosing manufacturing problems so yeah there are some.

Honestly I couldn't care less about the quality of the Wrangler, and you are right about lined barrels being a thing. However there is a huge difference between a barrel that is PURPOSELY lined for longevity or performance and one that has over applied product in the muzzle.

 

[I6turbo]

I wouldn't put up with that crap without making some noise about it, and I wouldn't do their job for them by continuing to beg some low-level flunkie to repair or replace the POS guns. The problem is most likely that someone in the company is continually failing to do their jobs -- first in production, then in CS/Warranty. Either that, or your story indicates the state of Ruger these days.

I'd post the targets and a condensed version of the story on a few gun forums including this one and rimfirecentral. Then I'd call and ask to speak with the office of the president of Ruger, get an e-mail address for them, and send the links to the threads.

It sounds harsh, but any president who gives a damn about the future of the company doesn't want this happening. You taking action as described above will either improve Ruger, or perform a service to the gun-buying community by letting them know what kind of company Ruger chooses to be nowadays.

I had almost the exact thing happen to me with Hewlett Packard a few years ago. I begged them to make good on a new computer that I bought from them that turned out to be little more than a bundle of defective parts. I tried for weeks to get them to fix it. They gave me the run-around, excuses, and never fixed it. I called HP HQ in Cali and asked to speak with the president. I told my story to the person who answered the phone in CS. The CS person transferred me to the office of the president, and I spoke to an assistant. I told him my story. He asked that I give him 24 hours to work on it. Within about 4 hours my phone was ringing off the hook with calls and voice messages from 3 or 4 different people asking what they could do to make the situation right. A couple of them were the same clowns who had been giving me the run-around for the prior month or so.

Don't keep bending over as long as you have other options that you can try.

 

[silicosys4]

Several have asked him that,He does not seem to want to answer??

As for the Ruger target, I find that hard to believe??
His other thread or two was closed so had to start another rant.

Maybe i'm just getting tired of this fanboi BS.
It's so hard for the Ruger fanboi's to believe that cerakote hosed down the bore of my gun as documented in my pictures would cause it to keyhole. Surely not. .I mean, its not like I've shown what, 3 targets now, one cardboard, showing keyholes with multiple types of ammo.
If this isn't keyholing, explain how bullets that are stabalized are making ovoid or elongated lead smears ON CARDBOARD.
They are keyholing.
If you don't believe me,
Too damn bad
If it hurts your feelings that Ruger dropped the ball big time on my guns and I'm not going to stand for it,
TOO DAMN BAD.
This isn't OK. Not at $100, not at $200, not if it were given to me for free.

 

[TTv2]

Accuracy vary with certain ammo sure but I don't think one should keyhole with any quality ammo.

Meh, a few years ago I was shooting some CCI Holiday pack ammo that used polymer coated red and green bullets and they shot like crap, with a couple of keyholes from my SR22.

CCI is a quality manufacturer, but any company can produce an ammo that just does not work well with some guns.

To the OP I say try some different ammo before you pass final judgement. That said, things are not looking promising.

 

[SchmidtRubin]

IMO this is like expecting the action to not have burrs like it came out of the Colt or Kimber custom shop.
I've had to hone gun parts before. This task is no different.
Can you scrape the coating off with a needle?

 

[TTv2]

Note: I never complained about chipped grips in the return form or phone call to ruger and I don't live in Missouri

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"Within factory specifications" is my new dreaded phrase when it comes to revolvers. I swear a revolver could be out of time and it would still be within factory specs.

And a cleaning cloth? That is laughable, even Hi Point gives people a free magazine when they send a gun back to a customer.

 

[TTv2]

You bring up a good point I wonder if gun manufactures monitor forums like this? this is a major gun forum with a lot of followers they should pay attention to what we say

If they did we'd have a lot more .32's than we do.

I've talked about this before, but the gun forums comprise about a fraction of the gun buying public. The overwhelming majority of gun owners don't shoot their guns more than once, we shoot ours a lot more and we're more in tune with what's happening than most, and even then we're a minority of a minority that actually comes on the internet to talk about it.

Now, the companies may take note of some concepts that we come up with, like Federal obviously did with that .30 Super Carry when about 6 months prior to its revealing we were batting around the idea of an 8mm cartridge that was an enhancement on the .32 ACP and .32 French Longue, but that was simply a situation where Federal was looking at what else they could offer that people seemed to want and higher capacities apparently are something even the casual gun owner wants because the casual gun owner is oblivious to the reality that having to reload after 17 rds is likely as necessary as having to wear a condom to avoid pregnancy with a woman who had her tubes tied 20 years ago when she was 40.

One thing the firearm manufacturers will not be bothering with is wondering what gun forums are saying about their lowest priced budget revolver, whose target audience is the grandchildren of some old, retired Fudd who doesn't even know how to turn a computer on, let alone use the internet.

This is why I said in the OP's previous topic on the Wrangler that it was a half hearted attempt by Ruger to gain market share, not as a product that was being demanded by potential customers, but because it was simply a cheap .22 that had the Ruger name and phoenix slapped on it.

 

[JDeere]

Sell it, trash it or fix it yourself and move on. You have made your point and don't buy another one...

 

[bigpower491]

Sell it, trash it or fix it yourself and move on. You have made your point and don't buy another one...

I wholeheartedly agree......

I tried to help, but alas, to no avail

Moral of the story.......

Avoid a $200 revolver if you want a 10 ring terror

Lock this thread please

 

[Rule3]

Sell it, trash it or fix it yourself and move on. You have made your point and don't buy another one...

But then he wouldn't have any threads to vent on
Gessh this is OLD, good luck to the OP

 

[Ironicaintit]

The cerakote in the bore isn't okay. The groups, unless fired off hand at a brisk pace, aren't okay either. But then again, it is a $200 revolver.
caveat emptor and all that

OP ain't gonna like it, but there is a lot to be said for a properly backed paper target.

 

[mavracer]

I mean, its not like I've shown what, 3 targets now, one cardboard, showing keyholes with multiple types of ammo.

You posted exactly 1 target that says you used Federal Automatch. If you've tried other ammo it's not in this thread.

 

[silicosys4]

I wholeheartedly agree......

I tried to help, but alas, to no avail

Moral of the story.......

Avoid a $200 revolver if you want a 10 ring terror

Lock this thread please

But then he wouldn't have any threads to vent on
Gessh this is OLD, good luck to the OP

You posted exactly 1 target that says you used Federal Automatch. If you've tried other ammo it's not in this thread.

Nobody asked you to click on my thread. If Y'all are so pissy that I'm "bashing" ruger for

SPRAYING CERAKOTE DOWN THE BORE OF MY GUN AND IGNORING KEYHOLING ISSUES IN NOT ONE BUT BOTH THE WRANGLERS I OWN.

Then kindly piss off. I don't need to gain your approval nor do I need to provide unending proof to overprotective fanbois that Yes, Ruger F'd this one up royally.

 

[Mal H]

Three threads on this same topic have been merged.

We have had enough bashing going on from both sides of the issue - closed.