I also want a good Plinker 9mm Revolver

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New thread; don’t want to hijack this thread: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/whats-a-good-plinker-9mm.926973/

I've not found the configuration I'd like in a 9mm revolver. Besides being a fun range gun, I’d like one for two reasons; so I don’t have to chase down my brass, and to chronograph my reloads with the basic Magnetospeed. I would like a decent DA model with a 4 to 5” bbl, with a full hammer, with a cylinder made of non-exotic material, and no silly porting. Is that really too much to ask? Or perhaps I’m the only firearms enthusiast who has these requirements in a 9mm revolver. Anyone else want one like this? Any suggestions?
 
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I'm not too hip on the porting for the Taurus 692 either, which is why I had planned on getting the longest barrel to get as much velocity as possible. It is odd that Ruger has not put 9mm in the GP100, you'd think a 7 shot 9mm GP would be popular.
 
I bought a Taylor's & Co. TC9 back about a year ago.

I held off on mentioning it since I haven't fired it yet, but it sounds like it would do everything that is being asked besides be a DA revolver. It was reasonably priced IMO.


Gets me in on some of all this cheap 9mm ammo, if nothing else...
 
KnightHawk said:
KISS, 38/357. What’s not to like.
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Having to stock a second/third cartridge- either one of which is considerably more expensive.

I've got several dozen revolvers- all in .38/.357 or .22- but if I only had one or two to accompany my 9mm autos, I'd be a bit annoyed by having to keep "Special" ammunition for them.
 
Well, there is these:
www.budsgunshop.com

Buy Charter Arms Pitbull 6 9mm Revolver Online

Technical Specifications Caliber 9MM Barrel Length 6.000"
www.budsgunshop.com www.budsgunshop.com
or this:
www.budsgunshop.com

Buy Charter Arms Pitbull 42 9mm Revolver Online

CHARTER PITBULL 9MM SS 4.2" AS9mm
www.budsgunshop.com www.budsgunshop.com
I have had that 4.2" bulldog on order for a year and have searched the web for one during that year.
Should just email Charter and ask...
Then there is the RIA:
www.armscor.com

AL9.0 Standard 9mm 6rd

The AL9.0 Standard 9MM offers the finest in precision with low recoil. Only the best from Rock Island Armory and Armscor.
www.armscor.com www.armscor.com
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I still like .38 and .357, but only because I reload it. If I'm not reloading then 9mm has some serious advantages over .38, except in lightweight snubs where the recoil is an issue and that can lead to bullets jumping crimp. In a larger revolver tho, especially one the size of the Blackhawk, SP101, or Taurus 692 these issues are eliminated, the 9mm becomes an in between .38 and .357 in terms of recoil, but with more power than non boutique .38+P.
 
KnightHawk said:
I figured I’d get a reaction. I don’t buy factory ammo, strictly a Reloader.
I have been considering a dual-purpose pistol 357 - 9mm convertible Blackhawk.
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Not really a reaction, more like an answer...

My Blackhawk convertible does not do well with 9mm unless I load them with 0.358 diameter bullets.
jmo,
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Just never has been a want shared by many, though solutions to problems noone has had have been made in the past.,,

www.shootingillustrated.com

An Official Journal Of The NRA | 9 mm Federal: The Nine Millimeter Round Known to None

Going on 40 years ago, I blundered my way into my first job in the gunwriting business. It was a function of pure, dumb luck on my part and for that, I am eternally thankful. Among the many blessings of this luck were the great people I met and the range of new experiences. Such new people...
www.shootingillustrated.com www.shootingillustrated.com
 
I had a 692 2.75" (those don't have ports) and will likely get another with a longer tube and lop it to get rid of the ports......i actually have a 6.5" barrel i was gonna try fit to my short one.
I did find 9mms were quite pleasant out of the short tube. My .357 handloads less so.
 
jmorris said:
Just never has been a want shared by many, though solutions to problems noone has had have been made in the past.,,

www.shootingillustrated.com

An Official Journal Of The NRA | 9 mm Federal: The Nine Millimeter Round Known to None

Going on 40 years ago, I blundered my way into my first job in the gunwriting business. It was a function of pure, dumb luck on my part and for that, I am eternally thankful. Among the many blessings of this luck were the great people I met and the range of new experiences. Such new people...
www.shootingillustrated.com www.shootingillustrated.com
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I have no issues with rimmed versions of rimless cartridges, I would like to see it become adopted by the industry because there's enough people who moan and groan about the clips (they're not ideal, but they're not dealbreakers) and there are advantages to having individually rimmed cases, see .45 Auto Rim and the added strength those have due to how thick the case head is thanks to the rim and lack of extractor groove.

The problem with 9mm Federal was it could fit into .38 S&W revolvers and that's unsafe. I'm sure there are other ways to make a rim for 9mm that will work, maybe make the rim thick like .45 AR. Also, doesn't mean 10mm can't be rimmed or even 10mm Magnum. A rimmed 10mm Magnum would have equal power to .41 Magnum and still be able to shoot cheap .40 or 10mm Auto and last I checked there ain't no .41 ammo on any shelf that isn't double the price that .40 or even 10mm Auto is.

I know there's the military history fanboys who can't let anything that was once used in war be forgotten, but if .45 Auto Rim can still exist, I don't see why 9 and 10mm can't also get a rimjob.
 
LoonWulf said:
I had a 692 2.75" (those don't have ports) and will likely get another with a longer tube and lop it to get rid of the ports......i actually have a 6.5" barrel i was gonna try fit to my short one.
I did find 9mms were quite pleasant out of the short tube. My .357 handloads less so.
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The porting is there to help keep the muzzle flip down, which is one reason I'm not opposed to the 692 having ports. Besides velocity and sight radius, I want the long barrel to keep the ports as far from my face as possible.

If I was going to get a non ported 9mm revolver, the best choice I can think of is probably the Chiappa Rhino and I don't like the price of that, but compared to current Rugers I feel the extra $300 is worth it for what the Rhino is. I'd rather have a Rhino in .357 tho.
 
and there are advantages to having individually rimmed cases, see .45 Auto Rim and the added strength those have due to how thick the case head is thanks to the rim and lack of extractor groove.
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Yeah but you lose the advantage of using a very common pistol case once you go to some oddball. Not like there is a shortage of better rimmed calibers for revolvers. It's a solution to an invented problem.

"I want to use this pistol round in a revolver." "OK, great, we will make this case, that won't be usable in it's popular form, is that ok?" History and sales say, no.
 
jmorris said:
Yeah but you lose the advantage of using a very common pistol case once you go to some oddball. Not like there is a shortage of better rimmed calibers for revolvers. It's a solution to an invented problem.

"I want to use this pistol round in a revolver." "OK, great, we will make this case, that won't be usable in it's popular form, is that ok?" History and sales say, no.
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It's not like you can't use the rimless cases in the revolvers, you don't lose that ability simply because a rimmed version exists. If people don't want to bother with the rimmed cases, they don't have to.

You want to say it's a solution in search of a problem and if people want rimmed cases in a revolver to choose the ones we already have, but again, it's the cost factor for that ammunition now. Even .40, which isn't cheap compared to 9mm, is still cheaper than .38 is currently. 9mm... well, nothing is cheaper than 9mm.

Can people reload .38 and reduce the costs? Yup, and they can do the same thing with rimmed 9, .40, 10, or .45
 
TTv2 said:
well, nothing is cheaper than 9mm.
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Yes and when was the last time you picked up a 9mm Federal (rimmed) case at the range?

It's easier to find hen's teeth.


Don't get me wrong, I have pistol caliber revolvers but I use moon clips vs revolver specific brass, that is unobtainum. Last thing I want to do is change shell plates to load the "same" rounds, even if the brass was common/cheap.

The juice/squeeze relationship between pistol and revolver ammunition falls apart when I have to make them different.

Not unlike say a .44 mag rifle/hangun combination would, if you have to carry different ammunition for the two. Why make the compromise at that point?
 
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jmorris said:
Yes and when was the last time you picked up a 9mm Federal (rimmed) case at the range?

It's easier to find hen's teeth.


Don't get me wrong, I have pistol caliber revolvers but I use moon clips vs revolver specific brass, that is unobtainum. Last thing I want to do is change shell plates to load the "same" rounds, even if the brass was common/cheap.

The juice/squeeze relationship between pistol and revolver ammunition falls apart when I have to make them different.

Not unlike say a .44 mag rifle/hangun combination would, if you have to carry different ammunition for the two. Why make the compromise at that point?
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Gee, I would think that 9mm Federal having not been made commercially for over 30 years would be a factor as to why I've never seen it. I would think there'd be a small following today if it was.

I can understand why 9mm rimmed isn't going to happen and it's safety issues with weak .38 S&W revolvers, but I'm also not trying to say rimmed 9mm is ever going to be more popular than rimless 9mm. But you know what? If even 5% of 9mm revolver owners use it and like it, that's reason enough it should be available in some quantity.

If you don't like rimmed 9mm, don't use it, but don't tell others who would use it to pound sand.
 
TK Custom will turn a S&W 357 into a 9mm for you, if you want. I think they charge $250 or something.

The Taurus 692 seems to be the other answer, if you happen to run across one.

The complaints about ported barrels seem exaggerated to me. I have a couple of revolvers with ports and barely notice the difference. YMMV.
 
sparkyv said:
New thread; don’t want to hijack this thread: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/whats-a-good-plinker-9mm.926973/

I've not found the configuration I'd like in a 9mm revolver. Besides being a fun range gun, I’d like one for two reasons; so I don’t have to chase down my brass, and to chronograph my reloads with the basic Magnetospeed. I would like a decent DA model with a 4 to 5” bbl, with a full hammer, with a cylinder made of non-exotic material, and no silly porting. Is that really too much to ask? Or perhaps I’m the only firearms enthusiast who has these requirements in a 9mm revolver. Anyone else want one like this? Any suggestions?
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There's a Talo Ruger LCR that's almost what you want. 3" barrel.

https://taloinc.com/product/ruger-lcrx-9mm-3
 
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