I can only guess, panic buyers who got ARs but cannot

[tomrkba]

All I'm going to say is that paying $1,600 or more for an $800 AR-15 is silly and is a result of poor planning. People should have prepared a year ago. Did they not realize how difficult it is to beat a sitting President? It's not like Zero's stance on firearms was unknown.

 

[whichfinger]

You guys who are talking "pre-ban" vs "post-ban" might be dreaming. Feinstein has already said her bill will not grandfather anything. And Joe and his "team" are all on Feinstein's side. Unless the Republicans in the House can side track it, any mag with a capacity over ten rounds will be banned, regardless of when you bought it.

 

[skeptical_in_Ohio]

Another good reason to have a .22lr upper.

Actually around here, 22LR is becoming extremely rare. Locally, Gander Mountain, Dunham's, Bass Pro, Dick's, and Wal-Mart are out of all 22LR in bulk, and a lot of these have only a very little bit of 50 or 100 round boxes. More than one of the online sellers are out or very low on 22LR bricks (500 round), and at least one has only the expensive match stuff in volume. It may be that I just don't know where the good places are to look, though.

Later add suggests it is a shortage...

Lucky Gunner says they have no 22LR.

Cheaper than Dirt looks to be out of anything in bigger than 100 rounds.

Midway seems to only have bulk in the expensive stuff, or the CCI quiet stuff that won't cycle semis.

 

[dsm]

Look on the bright side...with all these new AR owners looking to hit the range trying to figure out how to load and operate their new weapon, they will be trashing their brass like water! So visit your range frequently and collect!

 

[nathan]

I have plenty of 8 mm mauser surplus , that be my range blaster for now. Even .22 LRs are hard to get so things are never gonna be normal for a good while .
Im glad the AR craze didnt catch on me or else i d be looking on a nice expensive gun but no ammo to boot. Worse, they are expensive as ever can be. Only the dealers are reaping the bounty of these craziness.

 

[Isaac-1]

I somewhat feel their pain, I bought my first AR 3 or 4 days into the craze (at pre-craze pricing), then picked up a case of 5.56 surplus ammo at an only slightly marked up price, so now I only have about a thousand rounds of 5.56 to feed the AR On the positive side I suspect I am in a better position than most of the frenzied buyers, as I suspect if it came down to it I could always find someone willing to trade cases of 5.56 for cases of 7.62x39 (maybe not an even trade, but in the ballpark)

 

[hawmanai]

Still think the AR is a $500 gun being modular and the number of manufacturers there are.

A Fool and his money are soon parted.

 

[MachIVshooter]

That day, one customer ordered 32,000 rounds of ammunition from SelwayArmory.com, worth close to $18,000. The order had to be shipped from the company's Lolo, Mont., office to Kentucky on a truck.

As though that's some insanely large amount. Silly reporters

I know guys who exhibit at machine gun shoots who order twice that quantity monthly. 32k rounds is about a half day supply for those who rent a dozen different MGs at a public shoot. One of these fellows had an entire bay of his garage filled with 7.62 and 5.56 NATO, said that was most of his summer supply. Probably over a million rounds.

 

[wally]

Another good reason to have a .22lr upper.

Who's got .22LR ammo in stock?

I lucked out a couple of months before the panic, Weider's had a sale, someone posted a link here for GI surplus, and SPG had a sale so I had 15,000 rounds delivered just before the panic set in

My wife and I go through 2-3000 rounds of 22LR a month depending on the weather and how often she comes along. Hopefully things will have settled down by time we need more.

 

[Ms_Dragon]

To be honest I'm kinda grateful there's an ammo shortage.

All over the net I'm seeing pictures of <--self edited---> posing next to the Christmas tree with their brand spanking new AR with their finger on the trigger pulling "Rambo" poses.
I don't know about y'all but I find that as alarming as hell!

No safety training as evidenced in their total lack of trigger discipline.

I hope they manage to get to a range to do a safety course or have access to someone who can teach them to have a bit more respect for their new weapon.

 

[MachIVshooter]

I hope they manage to get to a range to do a safety course or have access to someone who can teach them to have a bit more respect for their new weapon.

They'll get schooled by range officers and other veteran shooters who observe such behavior.

Despite the huge number of guns and equally large number of inexperienced owners in this nation, the number of accidents is still pretty low, and most of those do not occur at a range.

The rates for all unintentional gunshot injuries are:

Fatal: 0.2 per 100,000

Nonfatal: 4.71 per 100,000

The majority of these injuries are white males between 15-50, though the rate is higher among minorites in all age groups. The highest rates are in the 20-29 age groups for all races and sexes.

Source: CDC 2011 Fatal and Nonfatal injury statistics.

Just glancing over the data, without really plugging in numbers, it appears that males are about 8 times more likely to suffer a firearm injury than females, which probably correlates directly to other statistics on ownership and handling frequency, though it could be due in part to women (in my observations) being generally less intuitive and more innately cautious with machines. They certainly take instruction better than men! I'll take female shooting students over males every day and twice on Sunday!

 

[Isaac-1]

I have to wonder if that includes hunting accidents, around here it is a reasonably common cause of death, I have lost multiple relatives to it myself, although I must admit that those were mostly before the time of blaze orange, and manditory hunter safety education.

 

[Cranky CJ]

the question I've had is; how much reloading supplies is enough? primers? Lbs of powder? bullets?

Yeah, it has to do with how much you shoot, but are primers, bullets and powder going to be available say 1 or 2 years from now.

I have a good 2-3 yr stock of reloading supplies, but will there be a supply chain in the future??????

 

[B!ngo]

I suspect never really planned to shoot them...
V

 

[TyGuy]

The more on our side the merrier.

 

[B!ngo]

But it's inevitable that if these rookies happen to find some ammunition, many more accidents are likely. And who knows how many of them are not the balanced type. We know that they're not good with money.
More bad news from AR ownership will only fan the flames in D.C.
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They'll get schooled by range officers and other veteran shooters who observe such behavior.

Despite the huge number of guns and equally large number of inexperienced owners in this nation, the number of accidents is still pretty low, and most of those do not occur at a range.

The rates for all unintentional gunshot injuries are:

Fatal: 0.2 per 100,000

Nonfatal: 4.71 per 100,000

The majority of these injuries are white males between 15-50, though the rate is higher among minorites in all age groups. The highest rates are in the 20-29 age groups for all races and sexes.

Source: CDC 2011 Fatal and Nonfatal injury statistics.

Just glancing over the data, without really plugging in numbers, it appears that males are about 8 times more likely to suffer a firearm injury than females, which probably correlates directly to other statistics on ownership and handling frequency, though it could be due in part to women (in my observations) being generally less intuitive and more innately cautious with machines. They certainly take instruction better than men! I'll take female shooting students over males every day and twice on Sunday!

 

[blarby]

Quote:
There's always the third option...reload.
But you also have to plan ahead and stock up on components.
Like loaded ammo, components increase greatly in price and dry up quickly.

*looks around*

Nope, still plenty

Still plenty of .223/5.56 here too, although at inflated prices.

 

[Slipknot_Slim]

As though that's some insanely large amount. Silly reporters

I know guys who exhibit at machine gun shoots who order twice that quantity monthly. 32k rounds is about a half day supply for those who rent a dozen different MGs at a public shoot. One of these fellows had an entire bay of his garage filled with 7.62 and 5.56 NATO, said that was most of his summer supply. Probably over a million rounds.

In that context, it doesn't seem that large an amount. I got the impression that since the owner of Selway Armory.com (who you would think would be a 2-A supporter) relayed the details of the purchase to a reporter, that he considered it out of the ordinary and an example of panic buying.

 

[JohnBiltz]

During the last shortage I never actually ran out of ammo. I had to be a lot more proactive about it though. Walmart kept getting ammo in and it kept going out but if you talked to the guy behind the counter he would tell you when they were getting the next shipment in and I started ordering online.

 

[x_wrench]

I for one will not worry about it. between my current stock and my ability and enjoying reloading, i am all set for some time to come. besides, even IF a weapons ban passes, it will not take effect instantly. but i do have to thank the anti's of the country. their group is providing the U.S.A. with the best equipped, best stockpiled munitions of any army in the world! keep up the good work anti gunners! the only down side to this is it can be tough at times to get things. i sure wish i had bought stock in firearms manufacturers when obama got elected.