I finally had a bad day on the range...

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Riomouse911

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When one of our peers reports a less than great time shooting, we almost all say that a bad day at the range is better than a great day at work (or a variance of the sentiment ;)). 99 % of the time that’s probably true.

I finally had one of those 1% days where I literally got so fed up I poured the rounds I had set out into my backpack, tossed my targets back into the carrying tube and split after a few shots were fired.

I didn’t have a huge amount of time today, so two hours at the range would be my max before I had to leave. When I got there at 10 am it was empty. They had reopened all lanes for the first time in a year... but even 15 minutes after opening it was still deserted. ( I regularly shoot here and always earplug and ear muff because sometimes it can get loud inside when guys bring AR or AK rifles to shoot.)

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I got placed in lane 9 of 10, unpacked my stuff and fired 50 through the Glock 44 I picked up last week. One Aguila 36 gr hp didn’t fire, but did on the second go-round. 20 more of the Sterling Cross 40 gr LRN fired with no issues. Rounds were hitting where I wanted them, all was great :thumbup:.

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The S&W 4” Model 18-3 I shot next fired beautifully. The trigger pull was much improved after my work on the gun and 5 cylinders each of the Aguila and Sterling Cross rounds all fired without a hitch. This gun also was putting rounds right where I wanted them to go. :thumbup:

Then the wheels fell off.

The range put a couple of guys in lane 8, right next to me, which has never been an issue as I shoot indoors all the time. They fiddled about a bit then sent out a target to about ten yards. I didn’t pay much attention as I put away the 18-3, pulled out my S&W 48-4 (that also got resprung last week) and loaded a cylinder of Armscor 40 gr JHP .22 WMR rounds. I fired maybe one or two rounds... and the guy in the next lane touched off a shot that just about shook the teeth out of my mouth.

These guys were “sighting in” a 16” AR...indoors...with a lateral-port brake on the rifle...from about four feet to my left :what:.

After about three shots that made me literally wince after each one I glance past the barrier as the shooter was fiddling with the sights. I can literally see straight through the side ports on the muzzle of the rifle to the far wall. Great! :fire:

I emptied the cylinder and set the gun down, stepped back and asked the guy who was giving sighting-in instructions if they had a lateral port comp on that thing. (I’ll freely admit I didn’t sound too happy when I asked.) The guy said no with an irritated tone, which was total bs because I saw it. I said out loud it was rattling my teeth and went back to try and shoot the 48-4 and the three other S&W’s I’d brought to function check.

I lasted about one more cylinder, and three more shots from that gun, before I pulled my target in, packed up my crap and left. I left the range through the door, dropped my target holder on the desk, flipped my visa card down to pay for the $15.00 range fee and told the kid behind the counter that their comped rifle was too obnoxious to keep shooting around so I’m out. I’m enough of a regular that I could see he was surprised, so he charged my card and I turned to leave.

I saw three other guys that were signing the waiver and were getting ready to pay at the counter. I told the kid to put them on the far side of the range and said to the guys “Good luck today, shooting next to that comped rifle in there is just ridiculous.”

Went home, wiped my guns down, threw away about six targets that I ruined I’m my haste to leave and went about the day.

Sometimes... rarely...it is better going to the office than the range. This was one of those times. :thumbdown:

May you all have more fun this weekend behind your guns than I did today. :)

Stay safe.:thumbup:
 
Ya, been there many times. Obnoxiously loud guns, getting muzzle-swept, unsafe horseplay, cases flying over the barrier and hitting me......

Im actually so used to it that it barely bugs me anymore. Ill move to a different lane, leave, or report the offenders to the range staff as appropriate.

I'll admit to occasionally putting some hot loads in my .30 Blackhawk on purpose just to rattle my neighbors' teeth if they sonically assault me first. It works more often than not. :D
 
I know exactly what you mean @Riomouse911
I feel for you.

There is a 25 yard indoor range near me that allows rifles up to .308 power levels. It’s a range with two sides separated by a wall with around 10 lanes on each side. They could easily allow rifles on one side and handguns on the other yet they do not. I guess logic and common sense are lost on the people that run the range.
My last time there a year and a half ago (pre-silliness) I had two guys on the lane to my right with ARs with muzzle brakes that sent the concussion into my stall. Then a guy showed up in the lane on my left with an M1A. Talk about teeth rattling! :what:
I was there to test some .38 SD ammo in my two J Frames.
Needless to say, like you, I left exasperated.
I complained to the guys at the counter and they seemed to be amused by my frustration. So, I used some colorful language, a couple of insults and a recommendation that they shove their range someplace in their nether regions.
I haven’t been back.

I stick with the indoor range that I have shot at off and on for years now in between moves out of state. The range is only 20 yards but they only allow handguns and that’s fine by me.
The only reason I went to that other range was someone had given me a gift card for several visits. Each visit was progressively worse until the last and final (straw) visit.

For orneriness I did call this range and ask if they would allow 45-70 rifles. The chucklehead I was talking to said “That old timey round? Sure, that’ll be fine here.”
I was going to load some real shoulder busters and rattle some teeth my own self. :mad: But I decided no good could come from it and just enjoyed the fantasy of watching Mall Ninjas holding their ears and quickly exiting the range. :D
 
When one of our peers reports a less than great time shooting, we almost all say that a bad day at the range is better than a great day at work (or a variance of the sentiment ;)). 99 % of the time that’s probably true.

I finally had one of those 1% days where I literally got so fed up I poured the rounds I had set out into my backpack, tossed my targets back into the carrying tube and split after a few shots were fired.

I didn’t have a huge amount of time today, so two hours at the range would be my max before I had to leave. When I got there at 10 am it was empty. They had reopened all lanes for the first time in a year... but even 15 minutes after opening it was still deserted. ( I regularly shoot here and always earplug and ear muff because sometimes it can get loud inside when guys bring AR or AK rifles to shoot.)

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I got placed in lane 9 of 10, unpacked my stuff and fired 50 through the Glock 44 I picked up last week. One Aguila 36 gr hp didn’t fire, but did on the second go-round. 20 more of the Sterling Cross 40 gr LRN fired with no issues. Rounds were hitting where I wanted them, all was great :thumbup:.

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The S&W 4” Model 18-3 I shot next fired beautifully. The trigger pull was much improved after my work on the gun and 5 cylinders each of the Aguila and Sterling Cross rounds all fired without a hitch. This gun also was putting rounds right where I wanted them to go. :thumbup:

Then the wheels fell off.

The range put a couple of guys in lane 8, right next to me, which has never been an issue as I shoot indoors all the time. They fiddled about a bit then sent out a target to about ten yards. I didn’t pay much attention as I put away the 18-3, pulled out my S&W 48-4 (that also got resprung last week) and loaded a cylinder of Armscor 40 gr JHP .22 WMR rounds. I fired maybe one or two rounds... and the guy in the next lane touched off a shot that just about shook the teeth out of my mouth.

These guys were “sighting in” a 16” AR...indoors...with a lateral-port brake on the rifle...from about four feet to my left :what:.

After about three shots that made me literally wince after each one I glance past the barrier as the shooter was fiddling with the sights. I can literally see straight through the side ports on the muzzle of the rifle to the far wall. Great! :fire:

I emptied the cylinder and set the gun down, stepped back and asked the guy who was giving sighting-in instructions if they had a lateral port comp on that thing. (I’ll freely admit I didn’t sound too happy when I asked.) The guy said no with an irritated tone, which was total bs because I saw it. I said out loud it was rattling my teeth and went back to try and shoot the 48-4 and the three other S&W’s I’d brought to function check.

I lasted about one more cylinder, and three more shots from that gun, before I pulled my target in, packed up my crap and left. I left the range through the door, dropped my target holder on the desk, flipped my visa card down to pay for the $15.00 range fee and told the kid behind the counter that their comped rifle was too obnoxious to keep shooting around so I’m out. I’m enough of a regular that I could see he was surprised, so he charged my card and I turned to leave.

I saw three other guys that were signing the waiver and were getting ready to pay at the counter. I told the kid to put them on the far side of the range and said to the guys “Good luck today, shooting next to that comped rifle in there is just ridiculous.”

Went home, wiped my guns down, threw away about six targets that I ruined I’m my haste to leave and went about the day.

Sometimes... rarely...it is better going to the office than the range. This was one of those times. :thumbdown:

May you all have more fun this weekend behind your guns than I did today. :)

Stay safe.:thumbup:
I just move to a new lane and tell them when I check out why. But I’ve also known the owners since they were in diapers so it’s pretty rare I have a problem.
 
I know exactly what you mean @Riomouse911
I feel for you.

There is a 25 yard indoor range near me that allows rifles up to .308 power levels. It’s a range with two sides separated by a wall with around 10 lanes on each side. They could easily allow rifles on one side and handguns on the other yet they do not. I guess logic and common sense are lost on the people that run the range.
My last time there a year and a half ago (pre-silliness) I had two guys on the lane to my right with ARs with muzzle brakes that sent the concussion into my stall. Then a guy showed up in the lane on my left with an M1A. Talk about teeth rattling! :what:
I was there to test some .38 SD ammo in my two J Frames.
Needless to say, like you, I left exasperated.
I complained to the guys at the counter and they seemed to be amused by my frustration. So, I used some colorful language, a couple of insults and a recommendation that they shove their range someplace in their nether regions.
I haven’t been back.

I stick with the indoor range that I have shot at off and on for years now in between moves out of state. The range is only 20 yards but they only allow handguns and that’s fine by me.
The only reason I went to that other range was someone had given me a gift card for several visits. Each visit was progressively worse until the last and final (straw) visit.

For orneriness I did call this range and ask if they would allow 45-70 rifles. The chucklehead I was talking to said “That old timey round? Sure, that’ll be fine here.”
I was going to load some real shoulder busters and rattle some teeth my own self. :mad: But I decided no good could come from it and just enjoyed the fantasy of watching Mall Ninjas holding their ears and quickly exiting the range. :D
Egyptian Hakim 8mm Mauser (7,92x57mm JS). The factory muzzle break is like a stun grenade. I used to own one but sold it because it was so loud it was offending me.:confused:
 
Yeah, I hate that as well and have cut range sessions short. The indoor range I shoot at has four separate bays with ~10 lanes in each bay, and I always wish they would segregate better based on loudness. I'd happily pay a bit extra for that.
 
Sadly, my ears are still ringing loudly and it’s been over eight hours hours since I left the range. (I always run foam plugs under muffs Indoors and often do the same outdoors.)

I wish I had my own shooting area, but living in town makes a shooting range a tough sell to City Hall and my neighbors :).

I’ll survive, just one of those moments I guess. ;)

Stay safe.
 
But on the big time plus side, the two Smiths I briefly shot ran great with the new Wolff springs. :thumbup:

I’m hoping to go again in a couple of weeks to see how my work on the other K-frame rimfire (17-3) and J-frame rimfire (34 no dash) turned out. I must say they feel great in both DA and SA, but we all know the job can only be evaluated when you’re actually shooting rather than merely testing. ;)

Stay safe.
 
Range that I belong to allows only 22LR rifles, and max handgun is .44 Mag...It is quite obvious when the shooter next booth is shooting his Mag...Even my .357 Mag loads get attention from other shooters. Mostly 9's and .380's in the crowd, I do like my ,45's...Sig P220 is a fun gun and it sleeps beside my bed nightly
 
I have never been in an indoor range as none exist in this area and I wouldn't want to even if they did. It can be loud enough outside. A coupe of years ago a guy set up three tables down from me and there was no one in between. I stopped and waited for him to go put a target and quit paying attention to him until he fired his first shot and nearly blew me off my seat or at least it felt like that . He was shooting a rifle in .50 caliber BMG with a big ol' tanker style brake on it.
 
Wow, you go to an indoor range that allows rifles in the same bay and are surprised that someone actually brings one.

I always bring my earplugs and muffs with me just in case someone is shooting their .38 Super loads next to me. There's one guy that comes each week and fires his .500 Magnum from a ported 4 inch barrel.

I'm prepared. He pays his dues and so do I so it's up to me to keep my own sanity.
 
( I regularly shoot here and always earplug and ear muff because sometimes it can get loud inside when guys bring AR or AK rifles to shoot.)

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The range put a couple of guys in lane 8, right next to me, which has never been an issue as I shoot indoors all the time. They fiddled about a bit then sent out a target to about ten yards. ..... and the guy in the next lane touched off a shot that just about shook the teeth out of my mouth.

These guys were “sighting in” a 16” AR...indoors...with a lateral-port brake on the rifle...from about four feet to my left :what:.

After about three shots that made me literally wince after each one I glance past the barrier as the shooter was fiddling with the sights. I can literally see straight through the side ports on the muzzle of the rifle to the far wall. Great! :fire:

I emptied the cylinder and set the gun down, stepped back and asked the guy who was giving sighting-in instructions if they had a lateral port comp on that thing. (I’ll freely admit I didn’t sound too happy when I asked.) The guy said no with an irritated tone, which was total bs because I saw it. I said out loud it was rattling my teeth and went back to try and shoot the 48-4 and the three other S&W’s I’d brought to function check.
I'm kind of surprised the barrier between firing positions didn't mitigate the muzzle blast just a little bit. My long-range rifle has a lateral port brake on it; works really well to control muzzle rise, but yeah, it's louder than dynamite when you start shooting. I warn other shooters at the range when I go, so they can leave at least two positions next to me open so I'm not blowing their hair back.

The worst I ever felt, sound and shock wave, from a gun was while I was stationed in Germany during Desert Storm. The base range had a special setup for several adjacent firing positions, there were 6 foot-diameter concrete culverts about 15 feet long that you fired through; these were lined with wood, which had egg crate foam attached. The idea was to decrease the sound levels carrying away from the range. When shooting from these positions, the muzzle of the gun was about 6 inches inside the end of the pipe. Even with double protection (plugs and muffs), it was unholy loud, and with rifles the shock wave would bounce back a bit. To compound things, the gun we were firing (a real treat otherwise), was a MG42. Letting off a dozen rounds with a half-second burst almost turned your insides into jelly, and your ears rang for an hour afterwards
 
Last time I was at an indoor range, I was placed next to someone with a 12 gauge. After 5 or 6 concussion waves blasting me, I had to pack it up and drive another 30 minutes to the nearest outdoor range. Sadly, nothing short of a winning lottery ticket is going to get me my own private range. I still hold out hope, though.
 
Wow, you go to an indoor range that allows rifles in the same bay and are surprised that someone actually brings one.

I always bring my earplugs and muffs with me just in case someone is shooting their .38 Super loads next to me. There's one guy that comes each week and fires his .500 Magnum from a ported 4 inch barrel.

I'm prepared. He pays his dues and so do I so it's up to me to keep my own sanity.
No, I’m surprised these guys brought a rifle with a lateral brake (which everyone with half a brain knows are brutal to everyone BUT the shooter) didn’t let anyone know around them to prepare, and then flat out lied to my face when asked. :)

But maybe I’ve put a bit too much faith in all shooters having a modicum of courtesy than I should. A simple heads up would’ve been nice.

I’ve shot there for years, never once having any issue with an AR, 12 Gauge or other firearm people bring to shoot. I have no idea what brand of brake these guys mounted on that gun, but to anyone off to the side of the muzzle it was awful enough to make me pack up well before I was done.

Like I said earlier...stuff happens.

Stay safe.
 
Just got kicks I went into the website for the indoor range I mentioned above that permits rifles.
They list approved cartridges for firing inside the range.
Here is a cut and paste from their website:

PermittedCalibers
All Caliber Handguns Permitted*

Rifle Calibers.223/5.56 7.62 - .308 30-06 30-30Permitted*

Shotguns With Shoulder Stocks Permitted Anytime. Rifle and Shotgun Targets at 15-25 Yards Only.

*As a general rule, Muzzle Energy over 4000 Ft Lbs will not be permitted at the range
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Their website: https://www.fieldtimetargetandtraining.com/

4000 ft/lbs is pretty hefty which equates to pretty darn loud. :D
 
A lot of people are not aware of the possible consequences that their actions might have on other people. A commercial range would benefit from a management that has enough knowledge and foresight to make shooting safe and enjoyable for all.

Riomouse,

you have a damn nice target carrier!
 
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