I got shot at while walking home

[glennser]

Shot at while walking home

I live in LA and early afternoon Christmas Eve a couple of years ago we heard about 10 shots coming from the carpark of the School/RC Church next door, heard a car screeching away and thinking it was over went out while dialing 911 on cell phone, we saw some young guys (looked Armenian to me but not sure) lifting another into a car and speeding off. Took the cops 15 minutes to arrive, there were shell casings (.380 and 9mm) blood trails to where the cars took off but the police acted like they really didn't give a damn, more or less shrugged and said they'd check the hospitals, they didn't even seem to care about the shell casings or car descriptions.
A couple of days later we heard from a neighbour three had been shot and two died, don't know how he knew, but never heard anything else.

Anyway the point I want to make is that I scoured every paper and website, including local police blotters sections and never came across any reports of it, nothing, not a word anywhere, daytime christmas eve in a school playground and no report anywhere?

Guess I must be making it all up then right, seeing as I can't produce a news story or police report?

Glennser

PS I know most of you think LA is a ghetto but this is a pretty nice neighbourhood, usually very quiet.

 

[Caimlas]

Similar thing happened to me a couple years ago right after I got my CCW - but in this case it was a scare tactic, and no bullets were fired. Just some college thugs thinking they could have a good time by scaring the sh*t out of people.

My gut response was to freeze and/or look for cover as soon as I saw the gun (they were acting oddly, so I stopped walking on the sidewalk and watched them at the intersection). The came around the intersection and pulled out a pistol, and I pretty much dived behind a large brick and cement tree planter. (It was 9:30 at this time of the year - just almost sundown - near some construction that was going on between my house and the downtown area.) By the time I looked up with my pistol in-hand (it took me a moment to realize I had it, but I'm not sure how long that moment was) the car was already 30+ yards away from me, and I was (for all intents and purposes) safe, making any shots in their direction (towards actual traffic - the roads were pretty deserted on this part of town) dangerous. At the time, I was angry, and wasn't considering the fact that I had no legal justification to shoot any longer. Good thing I didn't.

In other words, I was no longer in immediate harm. While I would have been 100% within the legal right to shoot them while the gun was pointed at me, and/or while I still saw the gun, as soon as they were no longer a threat that would probably, legally, be considered neglectful homicide or something else like that. Fear very quickly turns to anger, I've found, when one's safety is on the line, so it is something we CCW holders need to keep in mind due to the twisted political and legal climate we live in (if someone shoots at you and attempts to end your life, you damn well should have the opportunity to do the same - even if their back is turned on you). However, our legal system doesn't work that way...

And yes, I filed a police report. I was really hoping those jerkoffs would get arrested for threatening someone with a deadly weapon. I ID'd the car but they never found 'em - they were probably from out-of-town.

ETA: This is the same encounter as the one I've mentioned in the past where the intedicting officer came a rabbit's hair away from using my pistol to put a 9mm hole in the floorboards of his squad car.

 

[Caimlas]

I will back Doc up on this one. I'm wary to believe this story until I see something concrete on it. To be honest, the number of posts a member has says a lot about creditability. If a guy randomly appears and has less than 30 posts and is talking about getting in a shoot out, or something else major, I think we all would admit a link to a news article (at very least) would be appreciated.

Maybe so, but in my encounter, I saw the vehicle, and I could hear them bantering and making noise about 2 to 4 seconds before I saw the glock. Plenty of time for insults to be hurled before they whip out their piece.

And while I reported my incident, and even though there were no shots fired, my incident didn't make the news in this midwestern city of 130,000 people - and it's one of the biggest in the area. Truth be told, even here there is a 'drive by' of some sort (not necessarily with an intended target, usually vandalism around here) almost every week. And we're a pretty homogenous culture out here in the midwest.

 

[NoPhilly]

A guy I knew in college was killed in Philadelphia

He was killed by shots fired from a drive-by shooting.

Here you have a college student-athlete killed outside of a party over summer break.

No mention of the shooting/murder in the papers or on televised news.

 

[bogie]

Uh... Did their gun make a "popping" noise or a "banging" noise?

 

[Thefabulousfink]

The only useful thing a pistol would do in this situation is protect you if they decided to stop and finish the job, (not likely unless you have a prior history or look like someone who does). You did the right thing by getting to cover first and by the time you looked up they were speeding off. Any shots fired at this point would have gotten you arrested for endangering the public.

As for cover: Brick and stone are the best, followed by concrete, then steel, then wood and drywall. But even the worst cover that your hiding behind is better than the best cover that your still running to.

 

[quatin]

I will back Doc up on this one. I'm wary to believe this story until I see something concrete on it. To be honest, the number of posts a member has says a lot about creditability. If a guy randomly appears and has less than 30 posts and is talking about getting in a shoot out, or something else major, I think we all would admit a link to a news article (at very least) would be appreciated.

Yup I'm with that. It just takes away my time from responding to SHTF Zombie threads.

 

[Wire]

Austin safe?
Have things changed?

I used to live in the apartments south of Kaos and the Back Room on Riverside. The guy one door over was beaten and robbed on his doorstep. There was a home invasion / shooting across the street. I was burglarized. All of this happened in a ten week period in 1997.