almost got in a fight today while carrying

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1)I think using racial means to describe someone is ok.....I'm a short fat Italian..if I was chasing someone and he said"hey,a fat Italian is chasing me."would that be racist?No just a fact.
2)Wether or not you believe this story,it brings up imoprtant issues.
3)I'm glad I live in the country....
4)judging by the size of this guy,anyone who would want to fight with him is obviously nuts....
5)when in doubt you have 2 choices....run...or Mozambeke his a$$....:eek:
 
colubrid, I don't believe your story. Further, your stereotypging and the high value you place on racial identification in your account are unfortunate. Be well.

Sir, I do not care if you believe my story but I don't see what is so unbeleivable? What do you want from me to prove it to you? My phone number? What do I get from you after I satisfy your weirdness.:banghead:
 
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The whole story just seems to be pretty incredible to me. Anybody else get that same feeling?


Yes.



The people who posted here and doubt my story can # can PM me for my phone #.
 
colubrid said:
colubrid, I don't believe your story. Further, your stereotypging and the high value you place on racial identification in your account are unfortunate. Be well.

Sir, I do not care if you believe my story but I don't see what is so unbeleivable? What do you want from me to prove it to you? My phone number? What do I get from you after I satisfy your weirdness.:banghead:

I don't see what's so hard to believe either. Frankly if you go around showing those biceps it's going to attract negative attention from idiots and a-clowns who want to fight. I know the kind of neighborhood you live in--maybe not everyone here does. The key is to be more of a coward. Avoid eye contact, avoid challenges and keep those "big guns" under wraps until they're needed. You want to be apologetic and meek until you absolutely need to use force to protect yourself, then unleash. If you face imminent deadly force, do not waste time with warnings or commands just blow them away. Ideally you'll do this on your own home turf and witnesses will describe you apologizing and backing away rather than arguing and threatening. Given the likely jury pool in your area, you absolutely want to avoid having charges brought. They'll hang you no matter what the facts are. Your best chance is with the DA and the cops. And if you the body and the blood is on someone else's land and witnesses say you were arguing about a bike--you'll be sent into a deep hole for the rest of your soon-to-be-short life. Do NOT expect fairness from the court system where you are. You will not get it.

My position on the "white power" types is well known, but race is absolutely a factor in this world. Living where you do you need to be extra careful.
 
colubrid, after spending years reading and participating on internet forums, i think what most people find 'unbelievable' about your story is simply how you are posting, the persona you are projecting does seem to be more 'keyboard commando' than anything.

dont get me wrong, i'm not saying you are one, but the manner in which you present yourself in this particular thread might lead some to believe you are such.

for example, the defensiveness to posters being skeptical, saying you trained in MMA, your posting a picture of yourself to prove how intimidating you might be, and offering to give out your private number. the next thing on the list for keyboard commando behavior is to call other posters out for a fight.

and lets not forget how you 'stole' your sons bike back from a group of thugs.
 
Given the likely jury pool in your area, you absolutely want to avoid having charges brought.

A very good but scary point. I have been to the courthose in Jonesboro (Clayton Co.) but I never thought of that.
 
colubrid, after spending years reading and participating on internet forums, i think what most people find 'unbelievable' about your story is simply how you are posting, the persona you are projecting does seem to be more 'keyboard commando' than anything.

dont get me wrong, i'm not saying you are one, but the manner in which you present yourself in this particular thread might lead some to believe you are such.

for example, the defensiveness to posters being skeptical, saying you trained in MMA, your posting a picture of yourself to prove how intimidating you might be, and offering to give out your private number. the next thing on the list for keyboard commando behavior is to call other posters out for a fight.

and lets not forget how you 'stole' your sons bike back from a group of thugs.


Well I don't know what keyboard commando is but if you or any of these posters want to call I can prove everything by letting you talk to my 13 year old son. He is not even aware of this thread but can confirm everything you may ask of him.

Step up or shut up.
 
I believe him. In fact his response to the doubts is exactly the kind of thing that will get him in trouble in real life. I see him as a big guy used to dealing with problems himself, very physically confident. I know the type very well--they're good guys. Unfortunately this is just also the kind of guy likely to end up either DOA because some punk shot him in the back with a .32 or end up in prison for breaking a man's neck in a fight. When you're the biggest elephant in the neighborhood, everyone will want your tusks.

I have stood there and seen confrontations very close to the one described here, only in that case it was Cousin Jethro not Cousin Jerome who came out to challenge the big guy. Either way, the best plan is to leave your ego aside and be meek and mild, NOT to try to stand your ground.
 
colubrid said:
colubrid, after spending years reading and participating on internet forums, i think what most people find 'unbelievable' about your story is simply how you are posting, the persona you are projecting does seem to be more 'keyboard commando' than anything.

dont get me wrong, i'm not saying you are one, but the manner in which you present yourself in this particular thread might lead some to believe you are such.

for example, the defensiveness to posters being skeptical, saying you trained in MMA, your posting a picture of yourself to prove how intimidating you might be, and offering to give out your private number. the next thing on the list for keyboard commando behavior is to call other posters out for a fight.

and lets not forget how you 'stole' your sons bike back from a group of thugs.


Well I don't know what keyboard commando is

It's basically a person who posts stories of a dubious nature, and then, once they're confronted, does everything they can to 'prove' it.

I'm not calling you a liar, sir, I'm simply stating that you are following a pattern I've seen for the 10+ years I've been on the net.

but if you or any of these posters want to call I can prove everything by letting you talk to my 13 year old son. He is not even aware of this thread but can confirm everything you may ask of him.

Step up or shut up.

Why is it so important for you to 'prove' it?
 
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Here at THR we don't paint members any race, ethnic group, religion, occupation or gender with a broad brush that would cover all members of any group with the stigma of the bad conduct by an individual of that group. That would not be promoting our Second Amendment rights in a responsible manner and it will just add to the stereotype the antis try to hang on us.

If you think that these rules are too politically correct, then I would suggest that there are forums that are less PC and perhaps you'd be happier posting there.

Now on to colubrid. It really doesn't matter to anyone but colubrid if he's telling us the truth or not. His post has stimulated a lot of good on topic discussion. I think just about everyone here would have participated in this thread even if it had been posted as a hypothetical situation. Let's not have any more attacks on colubrid's integrity, that's not going to solve anything. I don't want to close a productive thread.

Jeff
 
It's tactically important to take note of the unfortunate reality of race in the US, however. In some larger Southern cities and in many eastern urban areas a white or asian person involved in a self defense shooting isn't likely to get ANY benefit of the doubt. There's always an us and a them, and in some areas if you're not of a certain ehnic background you are a "them." It's always been this way and probably always will be. Just as if you were an anglo walking in an Italian or Irish neighborhood 100 years ago--it would behoove you not to throw down too quickly and to avoid fights even more than usual.
 
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