I gotta a mosin!! i got a Mosin!!!

[Mr White]

Me too. I got a very similar condition m39 yesterday in Phoenix. I paid $89.

Packnpundit, I hope that's a typo and what you really got was an M38 for $89. Because I'd hate you til the very end of time with every fiber of my being if you found an M39 for $89!

 

[Antihero]

Are you shooting modern ammo out of that baby? Good if you're going hunting, but you can get old surplus ammo for less than $0.10 a round. Example: 300 rounds for $29.95, 880 for $69.95, etc.

I actually just found a guy who hates his old shot-out mosin which makes 4-foot groups at 100-yards. He is selling me 600 rounds for $20!

As i mentioned in another post, i hate cleaning guns and while surplus ammo is cheap, its worth it to me not to have to do the extra cleaning by paying 30 cents a round.

I've cleaned up after corrosive, in this case a muzzleloader, and i dont enjoy it. Now if i could find non-corrosive surplus id be all over it!

 

[_N4Z_]

"extra" cleaning after using corrosive surplus amounts to nothing more than flushing the bore with water right when your done shooting.

that's it. water rinses out the nasty salts, then clean as normal. ya some say windex and other formulas, but water is what makes the magic happen.

i call that a minor hassle when 440 rounds can be had for 50 bucks, but hey, if you got the bones for the new stuff, then that's more surplus for the rest of us.

 

[dstorm1911]

Ya actually don't even have to flush with water, use good ol military surplus bore cleaner and ya'll never see any trace of corrosion, Most off the shelf bore cleaners will flush out any corrosive salt residues as well, the key is to CLEAN the weapon not just pass a bore snake through it and call it done, When I'm home we go shoot as a family deal every sunday (our range is in our back yard as our property is backed against federal land on 3 sides out in the Arizona desert, or we drive 10 miles to an old mine in the hills and do a picnic thing) Usually a bunch of friends show up as well and I might have 30 or 40 guns to clean at the end of the day been doing this for the last 12 years and USGI bore solvent is the ticket I've got 5 gallon buckets of the stuff me and a few of the friends will setup folding tables in the yard and everyone pitches in, all the bolts are tore down and most actions stripped and soaked in bore solvent while a few of us go around cleaning the barrels then everything gets re-oiled and reassembled, not one of my guns has any sign of damage from corrosive salts.


EDIT; Antihero, with muzzle loaders ya shouldn't have any problems or extra dificulty with cleaning they require even less that modern guns, HOT water thats it, I really love my Muzzle loaders and cap n ball revolvers originals and replicas I've always just followed the directions from the back of the Dixie gun works catalog and flushed with boiling water then swab and re-oil with 100 percent natural lube this is all thats been done since the civil war to prevent corrosion. What steps were ya put through that made it such a chore?

 

[bartsimpson123844]

Use Sweet's 7.62. It will take care of the corrosive salts in surplus ammo.

 

[Antihero]

EDIT; Antihero, with muzzle loaders ya shouldn't have any problems or extra dificulty with cleaning they require even less that modern guns, HOT water thats it, I really love my Muzzle loaders and cap n ball revolvers originals and replicas I've always just followed the directions from the back of the Dixie gun works catalog and flushed with boiling water then swab and re-oil with 100 percent natural lube this is all thats been done since the civil war to prevent corrosion. What steps were ya put through that made it such a chore?

Just that, i just dont like doing it. I greatly prefer running a patch with Hoppes thru,run a bore brush, use patches til clean, put a patch thru with a bit of oil.

Ya actually don't even have to flush with water, use good ol military surplus bore cleaner and ya'll never see any trace of corrosion, Most off the shelf bore cleaners will flush out any corrosive salt residues as well, the key is to CLEAN the weapon not just pass a bore snake through it and call it done, When I'm home we go shoot as a family deal every sunday (our range is in our back yard as our property is backed against federal land on 3 sides out in the Arizona desert, or we drive 10 miles to an old mine in the hills and do a picnic thing) Usually a bunch of friends show up as well and I might have 30 or 40 guns to clean at the end of the day been doing this for the last 12 years and USGI bore solvent is the ticket I've got 5 gallon buckets of the stuff me and a few of the friends will setup folding tables in the yard and everyone pitches in, all the bolts are tore down and most actions stripped and soaked in bore solvent while a few of us go around cleaning the barrels then everything gets re-oiled and reassembled, not one of my guns has any sign of damage from corrosive salts.

I really dont want to strip the bolt apart every single time i fire, and i wouldnt feel comfortable firing corrosive without doing that. As i said as little cleaning as i have to makes me happy.

 

[packnpundit]

Mr. White was Right

Typo. Sorry. You won't need to hate me till the end of time. It really is an M38.

 

[_N4Z_]

You guys may want to double check not flushing with water or some other salt dissolving agent. (Windex)

I've spent many hours researching and discussing this topic with fellow milsurp shooters as well as the good people to be found on http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/

Also check http://www.theboxotruth.com/ for their little blurb on shooting and cleaning corrosives.

Most feel that typical bore cleaners and solvents are NOT good for removing the corrosion catalytic salts found in surplus ammo. Plain old H2O is the best thing to dissolve salt, not a petroleum product, or similar. Water is after all the universal solvent on our good Earth. Also, surplus cleaning supplies are not something the average shooter is going to have around. I cannot speak for Sweets as I've never used it or read the label of said product. A good shot water (which is free), prior to good cleaning, seems like easy, sage advise to me. For the bolt the face is the place for a spritz of love. Shouldn't need to break it down. That's what I'll be doing anyway.