I had a pleasant expierience @ the PD today.

[41mag]

While I was waiting to get my "safety inspection"for my new pistol I started chatting with the desk officer.Another guy came by with a pistol case.Didn't think anything of it at the time.The desk officer was commenting on my new MKII target Ruger.He said that the other guy was-get this-picking up his Ruger MKI that had been stolen 21 YEARS ago.
I thought that that was pretty darn kool.I didn't hang around to see it or to find out any particulars.
I would have liked to listen in on the call when he was notified that it had been recovered though!

 

[cool45auto]

Wow, can you imagine getting that phone call? I bet the guy had forgotten all about it.

 

[Sisco]

One of my Uncles had a 1903A3 stolen. It was recovered 15 years later and he got it back. It had been sportorized since he saw it last, nice walnut stock and a Leuepold scope.

 

[Ellery Holt]

Hi 41, you've got me curious -- what's a, quote safety inspection unquote. You say you were getting that done on a new pistol at the police department. Was that for a new firearm you manufactured or modified? Otherwise it's done before the pistol leaves the factory, yes? I built an AR15 from a parts kit myself, but never had to have it inspected.

Great story about the fellow getting his pistol back.

Thanks.

 

[Mixlesplick]

Safety Inspection Certificate

Ellery Holt

In Michigan when we purchase a pistol we have to get a purchase permit from the local PD first and then bring the pistol back to the PD for a "safety inspection." On the back of the "Safety Inspection Certificate" is printed this statement: A cursory inspection has been made of this pistol presented. A check for operational or mechanical defects has not been made of this pistol.

It's called registration. There is no safety inspection. Only handguns are registered in Michigan, though, not long guns.
:banghead:

 

[griz]

Has anybody ever challanged this registration? It's so backhanded it practally begs to be overturned.

Cool story about the stolen gun. Maybe they will call soon about the chain saw that was stolen from me in 1982.

 

[IMtheNRA]

Stolen Guns

I've been told that stolen guns remain in the NICS database forever, while the other stolen property records are dropped after a few months.

I suppose that in order to get the call twenty or so years later, you'd need to be easy to find, probably in the same state that the theft took place in.

 

[71Commander]

I also had a nice experience at the PD yesterday. Went in to get a safety check. The person in front of me was trying to register a gun that belonged to his mother whom had passed away. There was no markings on it as to the calibre. The clerk behind the desk handed me the gun and asked if I knew what it was. I looked at for a second and said, "yeah, a .25". Cool, huh

 

[41mag]

 

[Halffast]

I got that call about 6 weeks ago. Seems a big drug bust was made in the county to the south of us and they recovered a Redhawk that had been stolen out of my house, along with a bunch of other guns, 17 years ago. The detective said they need to keep it for the trial and I will get it back after. Hopefully, he said, by the end of the summer. To say I was suprised would be an understatement.

I have been wondering what kind of shape it is in and if it still has the Leupold scope on it. Time will tell, but I am anxious to see it.

David

 

[Ukraine Train]

My friend just got a Makarov and when he took it in to the PD they hadn't ever heard of it lol. I've heard about a lot of people getting the wrong caliber, gun name, etc. printed on their "green card".... it's a joke. Also, they were mad because he had the gun, with a trigger lock on, in an unlocked box when he brought it in. Apparently it has to either be unboxed with a trigger lock or in a locked box without a trigger lock. Glad I only go to school here heh.

 

[whm1974]

My friend just got a Makarov and when he took it in to the PD they hadn't ever heard of it lol. I've heard about a lot of people getting the wrong caliber, gun name, etc. printed on their "green card".... it's a joke. Also, they were mad because he had the gun, with a trigger lock on, in an unlocked box when he brought it in. Apparently it has to either be unboxed with a trigger lock or in a locked box without a trigger lock. Glad I only go to school here heh.

Don't most companys put trigger locks on guns nowdays when they shipped them?

Bill Meadows

 

[Exposure]

41Mag-

That is cool. How nice it would be to be that owner and be re-united with your gun after 21 years.




Halffast-

That is very interesting. Wouldn't it be something if that gun could talk and tell you what it had been doing and where it had been the last 17 years! I'm sure when you bought that pistol it was a thing of great pride that you enjoyed at the range and were really happy with. But now 17 years later you have probably almost forgotten what it looked and shot like. Perhaps you could post a pic when you get it back? I would be curious to see what kind of shape it was in after having been stolen so long ago!

 

[Stand_Watie]

41 Mag

Where are you? I used to live near Muskegon. I've registered (err, had safety inspected) several pistols there and never got any impression that the pistols I was having inspected for safety were any safer for having been sort of looked at by an obviously-incompetant-for- the-purposes-of- pistol-inspection clerk at the Sheriff's department.

In all honesty, every serious gun person I knew in Michigan just called it registration and disposed with the pretext of it being called a safety inspection.

 

[Slipstick]

MI "Safety Inspections"

All things seem relative... Some do improve--a bit.

When I got my 1st "real" pistol in 1984, I was appalled at the runaround we had to go thru in Michigan to exercise a Constitutional Right. To get that "permission to purchase a pistol," we had to show up at the sheriff's office on certain limited days and hours (<<always set up to require time off from work) to apply for the mandatory background check. This was done manually, in those days. After the also mandatory 3-day "cooling off period" (actually, more like a week to 10 days you come back to fill out the "permit to purchase." At the time, the blank permit had to be signed and the signature Notarized, off site. While there were numerous Notaries at the cop shop, none would do it, so you had to toddle off to a bank or Realtor to find a Notary. After the signatures and Notary stamps were verified, back at the cop shop, the permit was filled out the rest of the way, and became "good" for ten days. Now,

Hustle to dealer, plunk cash, buy pistol, give 1/3 of permit to seller/dealer, then....

Back to the cop shop for "safety inspection," and fingerprints. then issuance of "green card." For my 1st pistol, the duty officer actually went thru the piece thoroughly. It was a S&W Model 19 Combat Masterpiece. He checked the cylinder lockup, transfer bar function, sear engagement, and barrel/cylinder alignment. Man, did I get my $5 worth!!! Now....

My last purchase, (2003) involved a Para Carry 6-.45 and the only thing "checked" was the serial number. Frankly, even the cops admit it's no more than a registration scheme, but at least the process has gotten simpler. Background checks are on-line and while-you-wait. With a CPL, all but the obligatory serial number recording is waived. (I LOVE my CPL!)

Michigan Law says that all pistols have to be "inspected" (not registered) and that it is a misdimeanor to fail to do so. Recording SN# is "just so we know it's been inspected" but considering the lack of even the most cursory function check, nowadays (ie "it's not loaded, is it?") this would probably make a good windmill for somebody like MCRGO (Michigan Coalition of Responsible Gun Owners.org) to tilt at.

PS: Back in 84, I had to go thru each & every step above to purchase a CO2 pellet pistol, which in MI is considered a "firearm," due to having a rifled barrel.
PPS: Coincidently, "Airsoft" replica guns, are also "firearms" under MI law, (gas/spring operated and larger than .177 cal) but do NOT require registration. (Go figure!) A couple of local teens found out the hard way that our County Prosecutor can be a real horses' @ss when it comes to "carrying" toy guns that look real....

Sigh!

On the flip side, If I got a stolen gun back because it was "inspected," I suppose I'd feel a bit better about this whole circus act.

 

[Trebor]

I've been trying to get the local gun groups to work to eliminate the whole sham safety inspection process, but they always tell me that their isn't the political will in Lansing to ramrod it through. Now that MCRGO has imploded, maybe I'll start talking to some of the off shoot groups.

 

[Mixlesplick]

I am not a well know regular at any gun shops but at least the clerks at the PD that register my guns know me by sight.

I am glad I have not had any guns lost or stolen. I would be ashamed to show my face around there.

 

[Warbow]

Holy Moses.

*crosses off Michigan as a state to live in*

That really bites!

 

[Myself]

Wonder what size my collection would be if I had to go thru that every time!

 

[41mag]

Oh c'mon guys!It's not so bad!

I figure that it's three trips to the PD for every single permit.Figure one to one & one half hours per trip.Figure 2-5 bucks per trip for parking.Figure a records dept clerk who may be polite & reasonable or who may be a snotty biatch.Figure five bucks/permit.Figure that I'm closing in on thirty handguns & I've wasted enough money on this registration nonsense to have purchased another revo.
If I wanted to pay the $200+/- tax to get a CHL then it would only require one trip.

Mi isn't a bad place to live.I rather like my home.There are just some things about it that can tick you off.BTW, not all towns in Mi require the 5-10 bus. day waiting periods.Alot are instant check.
I'm planning on a move.Northern Florida is my primary,but Arizona is starting to look pretty good too.

 

[Nathaniel Firethorn]

Mrs. Pdmoderator and I have checked out MI as a place to live in our reclining years. It certainly beats the overcrowded corruption factory where we currently reside.

- pdmoderator

 

[nvrquit]

Well you could...

..... just move west, pdmoderator, to your next door neighboring state of PA.

No "inspection" of purchased handguns, shall issue CCW and just a bit less corrupted than the PRNJ(though if we don't vote Rendell out, who knows what might happen).

Plus if you live outside of the Philly or Pittsburgh metro areas, finding a place to shoot is fairly easy. Just please remember to not try to change our state into the former "paradise" some NJ/NY transplants have moved to PA from. I just don't understand those types.

 

[Rascal]

Boy, and I thought California was bad. At least I don't have to run around and do all the BS stuff you guys do in MI. I do believe you can have AR's and AK's though. Wish I could.