I have a question on C&R licnse

[MG's]

Hey I'm new to this forum but I really need some help.I have sent a 7CR form to the BATFE for processing.

My question is how long does it take the BATF to approve an individual for his/her curios and relics license.I know the BATFE will do a background check on me which will take some time.But what should I look for when I do get the license because I was told by a FFL that you give up your fourth amendment rights even in your own home where the collecting is done.I don't need the BATFE busting into my door around 3:00 am in the morning with a no knock warrant.I have never broke the law in my life but I have read bad stories about the BATFE.
Please can someone help me on this

 

[Hoppy590]

you hardly give up your rights. you are subject to collection and book inspections. im told you have the luxory of being able to schedual these at a BATFE branch or your home. most C&R will never even get so much as a letter or phone call from the BATFE. i dont know of any that have been no knocked, nor if thats even legal.

as for time. it varys. some have said they got it a few weeks time, others say a few months. depends on branch office that handles it. and load.

 

[MG's]

Thanks Hoppy590 for the fast reply,

Yes no knocks are legal.Last year the Atlanta Police shot and killed a 92 old woman in her own home they was using a no knock warrant for a drug raid that went very wrong the cops were undercover.The 92 year old woman open fire on the police.Here is a link about a no knock warrant http://www.wsbtv.com/news/10374909/detail.html :banghead:

I'm just a gun nut like all of you are but I just want to take it a little further by collecting.I sent the form on 03/08/07 so I was just making sure what kind of time frame I'm looking at.

 

[Bruce333]

South East coast regions seems to take 2-3 weeks to process.
Edit: Mine took 15 days...

ATF can inspect your bound book, but you have the option of meeting at their office with it. It's very rare that a C&R holder gets checked though.

 

[Hoppy590]

i dont doubt no knocks exist. maybe i didnt word it right... its highly unlikely ( read Not gunna happen) you will get a no knock for them to inspect your C&R bound book. since the check itself isnt even a "criminal" event, i doubt any one would allow a no knock. anything you might get a No Knock for, ( meaning some one makes a MWAG call or the likes) is gunna happen regardless of your 03ffl.

Know what i mean? as bad as they are, they dont used swat teams to serve parking tickets. and when they do use swat teams its for somethign worse than parking tickets... dig me?

 

[CajunBass]

For what it's worth, I just got my C&R. I dropped it in the mail on Januay 28. I got it back about March 10. Call it 5 weeks for an easy number. I have read here that some got it back in two.

 

[DMK]

It can take a while for the ATF to get back to you, sometimes 2-3 months, although some get it back in 1 month. They will cash your check right away, but you will still wait a while after that.

Concerning records inspections, they will call and make an appointment. They certainly will not show up at your house in the middle of the night unannounced.

Now dealers can be inspected without warning. However, I believe that even for them it is usually during business hours. They certainly don't break down doors to inspect bound books unless they have strong evidence that a serious crime was committed.

No knock warrants must be approved by a judge (yes, they must have a search warrant to do a no knock entry, although in certain emergencies thay are allowed to bring the warrant to the judge after the fact). It must be for extenuating circumstances. No knock warrants are issued for dangerous, violent felons, or drug charges mostly. They want to surprise the perpetrator so that he doesn't have time to shoot back or flush evidence down the toilet. A records inspection does not apply, or I'm sure the IRS would be doing them all the time.

 

[Jim K]

The only time BATFE might even want to check your book is if a gun you bought turns up in the wrong hands, or if you do something that makes you look like an illegal dealer, like buying a hundred identical handguns at a time.

Otherwise, they are not really interested.

Jim

 

[vis-à-vis]

I was approved and licensed within 15 days. They say some folk take longer depending on the population of the ATF region/district/whatever you are on and their workload.

 

[Cacique500]

Got my renewal today - took about 3 weeks.