I have achieved 1911

[dburkhead]

Yesterday, I went shopping for what is intended as my primary home-defense handgun (and carry gun once my Indiana license comes through). From the beginning, I'd intended to get a 1911.

And so I went down to the gun shop where I also do most of my shooting. Since I'm kind of budget conscious, I looked over several used ones they had--a Norinco, a Rock Island Armory, and one other I don't remember. However, sitting on the shelf above, for only about $100 more was a brand new Taurus PT 1911 AR, that just called out my name.

One NICS check later, I'm on my way home with the new Taurus.

 

[SHOOT1SAM]

Good score!! It pays to not have tunnel vision.

Sam

 

[Eric F]

One NICS check later, I'm on my way home with the new Taurus.

Home? Get some ammo and get to a range and let us know how it does.

 

[dburkhead]

Going to the range is a bit awkward since I don't have a carry license yet and Indiana law is pretty limited on where one might transport a handgun:

Without a license one is limited in carrying to the following:
"or any person while carrying a handgun unloaded
and in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase
to their home or business or to and from a place
of repair or in moving from one place of abode or
business to another."

And that restriction makes no difference between concealed or unconcealed.

That looks to me like, until my carry license arrives, I cannot legally take the gun even to the range.

 

[Eric F]

or to and from a place
of repair or in moving from one place of abode or
business to another."

Yes officer I am moving from my home at(address) to my new home (address) which happens to be a range!

 

[steelyblue]

If you have a membership or are paying to use a range, you have business there, no? A range is a place of business. Take it to the range and do your business!!!!!

 

[JDGray]

Sounds like Indiana has some absurd laws! At least in MI, you can drive to the range, with an unloaded gun in the trunk, or out of reach in your truck with the ammo in a different out of reach place

 

[mtngunr]

Any chance you could trade it on the Norinco?....if it were me, I would have taken the Norinco, especially for $100 less than the Taurus....but good luck with your new gun, and enjoy....in regards to vehicles, my state considers the POV an extension of the home, no permit required for loaded weapon in the passenger compartment so long as it's in the open, or in the glove box or console ONLY...under the seat, in the map pocket, etc is verboten.

 

[mr.trooper]

Going to the range is a bit awkward since I don't have a carry license yet and Indiana law is pretty limited on where one might transport a handgun:

Without a license one is limited in carrying to the following:
"or any person while carrying a handgun unloaded
and in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase
to their home or business or to and from a place
of repair or in moving from one place of abode or
business to another."

And that restriction makes no difference between concealed or unconcealed.

That looks to me like, until my carry license arrives, I cannot legally take the gun even to the range.

Good grief Son! Don't tell me you read IC 35-47-2-1 and then didn't read IC 35-47-2-2, that says EXCEPTIONS in big bold letters just below it? You do NOT have to have a CCW to go to the range! you are allowed to transport firearms for sporting purposes. Target shooting at a range is a sporting purpose, just like Hunting.

Iv been living and shooting in Indiana My entire life.

READ UP:http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title35/ar47/ch2.html

Now READ EXCEPTION #7:

(7) regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive such weapons from the United States or from this state who are at or are going to or from their place of assembly or target practice;

As long as you legally own the weapon, you can commute to club meetings or a target range. The gun just needs to be unloaded and secured.

Even so, its not like CCW is hard to get in Indiana. you walk into the sheriffs office, fill out a form and go home. It takes 30 min of your time, and nearly everyone gets their license in the mail in a month tops. Indianas gun laws are very very lenient.

 

[dburkhead]

I did read that. "...regularly enrolled members of any organization duly authorized to purchase or receive such weapons...." (emphasis mine) which really looks like a "catch all" for government authorized organizations (like, say, a militia authorized by the State). When you add that there's a specific handgun license for "hunting and target shooting" it looks like strictly speaking, one cannot carry a gun to go to the range.

Now, maybe nobody will bother with you if you're going to and from the range, but all it takes is one overzealous cop/prosecutor combination to really screw up your ability to every own firearms ever again.

Maybe I'm being overly paranoid, but I figure I should have the license soon enough so why risk it?

 

[Code3GT]

As a former Indiana resident and LEO, I had always understood the law that it allowed unlicensed transport to a range no problem. Just keep it unloaded and put it in the trunk, you'll be fine. I've never met an LEO/prosecutor/judge that would make an issue of it, especially in the gun-friendly Hoosier state!

 

[Lonestar49]

Straight shooting..

As a former Indiana resident and LEO, I had always understood the law that it allowed unlicensed transport to a range no problem. Just keep it unloaded and put it in the trunk, you'll be fine. I've never met an LEO/prosecutor/judge that would make an issue of it, especially in the gun-friendly Hoosier state!

...

That, and drive legal, straight, no speeding, no pull-over, no ticket, no problems..

Luck and enjoy,


Ls

 

[tuckerdog1]

Congrats. I think you made the correct choice. Most that buy the PT1911 have been very happy with the gun. I think you get a lot for the dollar spent. A few have had problems, but those were generally minor & easily corrected.

The only thing I didn't like about mine, and this was a personal preference, was the grips. They were too rough on my tender mitts. Made a good excuse to swap out & dress up.

Enjoy.

Tuckerdog1

 

[MICHAEL T]

my self I would have bought the Norinco. A lot better pistol than the Taurus .Not as fancy but better quality

 

[MT GUNNY]

What the *&^%

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[dburkhead]

Forgot pictures? Oh, well I can correct that:

 

[rrflyer]

nice shooter.

I had well over 5,000 rounds through mine with no problems when i sold it.

have fun.

 

[hoosier8]

Yes you are being paranoid. I took mine to the range before I had my CCW. Just take it in your case unloaded.

What part of Indiana are you from?

 

[dburkhead]

Indianapolis

 

[mr.trooper]

Look at it this way:

The State of Indiana OPERATES AND MAINTAINS multiple free, public, shooting ranges across the state through the DNR. You bring your guns and you shoot all you like for free; no baby sitters, no range officers, just you and your guns. They PROMOTE this, and PROVIDE it for you because the state supports the shooting sports.

You have to transport your guns to these locations. If this were illegal, or if it required a permit, then they wouldn't spend time, money, and man power to maintain them.

 

[MaterDei]

As a former Indiana resident and LEO, I had always understood the law that it allowed unlicensed transport to a range no problem. Just keep it unloaded and put it in the trunk, you'll be fine. I've never met an LEO/prosecutor/judge that would make an issue of it, especially in the gun-friendly Hoosier state!

Having to keep the gun unloaded and in the trunk is hardly gun friendly.

 

[rondog]

And so I went down to the gun shop where I also do most of my shooting.

Guess I'm confused....you couldn't shoot it there?

Oh, congratulations, BTW! And welcome to the wonderful world of 1911's!

 

[dburkhead]

When I was buying the gun, they had closed the range early for maintenance.

Actually, that may have been a good thing, since I did have to go and pick up my daughter from daycare.

That, BTW, reminds me of a question: one of the rules about carrying is not at a "preschool." Does a daycare count as a preschool or is it some daycares or are daycare and preschool completely different?

 

[mr.trooper]

Having to keep the gun unloaded and in the trunk is hardly gun friendly.

We don't mess with Texas...so why are you messing with us?

 

[zachsm]

Indianapolis? Can you tell me where you got it, so I can pick up that norinco