Eightball
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Yep, the gun only has to be present, in order for someone to suddenly die. I wish lasers were that potent, but I guess a gun's presence is even more immediate and incapacitating.Brady Bunch said:
I Heard The Shelves Were Empty
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hadmanysons
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Couldn't find any 9mm ammo today. Not a one
I_AM_LEGEND
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Here's the Wal-Mart by where I live...
They had a lot of 9mm, about 20 boxes of 223, a few boxes of 7mm Rem mag, some 22 LR, some .40 S&W and shotgun shells... Oh and 1 box of .243. Can't find .45 at Meijers or Wal-Marts around here and neither know when they'll get any in. Certainly no 7.62x39 either.
When good ole Barry said he wasn't going to take our guns, he did so laughing in the back of his mind knowing he'll just make our ammo so expensive and at low supply that we'll be wielding $1000 scoped baseball bats. If the SHTF anytime soon, there's lot of us who will only be shooting our 22's...
They had a lot of 9mm, about 20 boxes of 223, a few boxes of 7mm Rem mag, some 22 LR, some .40 S&W and shotgun shells... Oh and 1 box of .243. Can't find .45 at Meijers or Wal-Marts around here and neither know when they'll get any in. Certainly no 7.62x39 either.
When good ole Barry said he wasn't going to take our guns, he did so laughing in the back of his mind knowing he'll just make our ammo so expensive and at low supply that we'll be wielding $1000 scoped baseball bats. If the SHTF anytime soon, there's lot of us who will only be shooting our 22's...
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Maybe because his price was $500 higher than the Gunbroker price.
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I had this sudden urge to buy "gun stuff" and I went on-line looking for any bargains on .38spl and 5.56 ammo. Yeah, I know- silly me! The price went sky-high and it appears availability is low. 
So, I figured I'd buy a few more AR-15 magazines. Most of the normal manfacturers I buy from are out-of-stock.
I've chatted with various dealers and other "gunnies". Common themes and/or reasons seem to be the current thoughts on the subject:
-The government is ordering large amounts of ammo and the factories can't keep up. That sounds reasonable since there are only x-amount of ammo manafacturers.
-The price of the components has risen. Seems reasonable and better than the reason given by more than one person which is that the ammo dealers are gouging us like people think the gas companies do all of the time....
-The manufacturers aren't making as many "hi-cap" magazines because they're afraid of a ban and don't want to be stuck with a large inventory. That's just scary.
-There is a majority increase in purchases of ammo and magazines due to the thoughts on the current environment and the manafacturers can't keep up. That's kind of interesting and it does appear there has been a big increase in purchases.
-There's a few others that, IMO, border on the level of conspiracy theories.
I expect there is a bit of truth to all of those.... maybe even the last one .
So, I figured I'd buy a few more AR-15 magazines. Most of the normal manfacturers I buy from are out-of-stock.
I've chatted with various dealers and other "gunnies". Common themes and/or reasons seem to be the current thoughts on the subject:
-The government is ordering large amounts of ammo and the factories can't keep up. That sounds reasonable since there are only x-amount of ammo manafacturers.
-The price of the components has risen. Seems reasonable and better than the reason given by more than one person which is that the ammo dealers are gouging us like people think the gas companies do all of the time....
-The manufacturers aren't making as many "hi-cap" magazines because they're afraid of a ban and don't want to be stuck with a large inventory. That's just scary.
-There is a majority increase in purchases of ammo and magazines due to the thoughts on the current environment and the manafacturers can't keep up. That's kind of interesting and it does appear there has been a big increase in purchases.
-There's a few others that, IMO, border on the level of conspiracy theories.
I expect there is a bit of truth to all of those.... maybe even the last one
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I was at a BIG local store yesterday. Rifle racks are probably 30% empty. Assistant store manager who has worked there for maybe 20 years said stuff is almost impossible to get. Zero AK's. No SKS's. They get maybe one AR every two weeks and it's already spoken for a dozen times before it's received.
Ammo stocks are running low. They had one case of 7.62x39. Virtually no other milsurp stuff.
Even domestic stuff (Ruger, Remington) is getting pinched. Colt appears particularly bad. Accessories like Lead Sleds and chronos are tight too.
Evidently, Rohm Immanuel was on TV and said they were going to try to ban ALL imported firearms and ammo.
Ammo stocks are running low. They had one case of 7.62x39. Virtually no other milsurp stuff.
Even domestic stuff (Ruger, Remington) is getting pinched. Colt appears particularly bad. Accessories like Lead Sleds and chronos are tight too.
Evidently, Rohm Immanuel was on TV and said they were going to try to ban ALL imported firearms and ammo.
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There is also a rumor going around that B.O. is going to impose a $.05 tax on every bullet purchased. This of course is crap, for two reasons.
President does not make laws, he enacts them. And this is out of the scope of executive order.
Such a tax is pre-emptive, and therefore unconstitutional. You can not tax something so much that it is too expensive to buy. This was proved in 1942, when a state imposed a 100% tax on guns to keep them out of the hands of the poor (read:blacks) and SCOTUS overturned it. A state cannot impose a license, tax or fee on a constitutionally protected right. Murdock vs. Pennsylvania 319 US 105 (1942).
There is so much speculation going on that we are becoming our own worst enemies.
Oh, and in case any of you were worried about registration, the U.S. Supreme Court broadly and unequivocally held that requiring licensing or registration of any constitutional right is itself unconstitutional. --Follett vs. Town of McCormick, S.C., 321 U.S. 573 [1944].
President does not make laws, he enacts them. And this is out of the scope of executive order.
Such a tax is pre-emptive, and therefore unconstitutional. You can not tax something so much that it is too expensive to buy. This was proved in 1942, when a state imposed a 100% tax on guns to keep them out of the hands of the poor (read:blacks) and SCOTUS overturned it. A state cannot impose a license, tax or fee on a constitutionally protected right. Murdock vs. Pennsylvania 319 US 105 (1942).
There is so much speculation going on that we are becoming our own worst enemies.
Oh, and in case any of you were worried about registration, the U.S. Supreme Court broadly and unequivocally held that requiring licensing or registration of any constitutional right is itself unconstitutional. --Follett vs. Town of McCormick, S.C., 321 U.S. 573 [1944].
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winston smith
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Gander Mt. is empty too.
But I am told that in January there is an inventory tax period, so no business wants stock untill late January/early February. Add the Obamathon
Sales Spectacular, and we have a problem...
What will come first- the BAN or the Bullets?
But I am told that in January there is an inventory tax period, so no business wants stock untill late January/early February. Add the Obamathon
Sales Spectacular, and we have a problem...What will come first- the BAN or the Bullets?
ServiceSoon
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My local Walmart has been out of 308 for 2 months. I guess it is hit and miss.
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So Cal WalMart is Out
I went to the two local wally worlds today (Temecula and Murrieta, CA) and they were both sold out of 9mm, 38 special, 357 Mag, 40S&W, and 45 ACP. One store had some 44 mag and the other had 3 boxes of 223. Both had plenty of 12 g birdshot though.
I went to the two local wally worlds today (Temecula and Murrieta, CA) and they were both sold out of 9mm, 38 special, 357 Mag, 40S&W, and 45 ACP. One store had some 44 mag and the other had 3 boxes of 223. Both had plenty of 12 g birdshot though.
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