I heard this in a Gunshop I go to alot

[tinygnat219]

Ok folks,

This thread is for the purpose of collecting all those famous gunstore yarns, rumors and innuendo that permeate the web and our industry. Post your favorites here and I will start off.

1. "That there is a WWII bringback SKS. I know because I know the guy who brought it in told me that his dad brought it back from WWII. It was captured at the Battle of the Bulge". No BS, this is a true statement. The SKS was a new "paratrooper" model. He wanted 400 bucks for it. I declined to purchase it.

 

[BobTheTomato]

2) Steel cased ammo will destroy your AK. You should really buy the brass stuff for it.

 

[LeonCarr]

That is a 1906 model Browning Hi-Power. At 1700 bucks its a steal .

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

 

[CWL]

You should kick that story-teller in the nuts.

The battle of the Battle of the Bulge occurred in Dec. 1944 in the Ardennes Forest in Belgium and was fought between the Americans and Germans. There were also some Brits, French and Canadians present.

The SKS was officially adopted in 1949, 4 years after the end of WWII -by the Russians. The Russians were our allies in WWII.

Sometimes I'm ashamed that there are Americans that stupid...

 

[Powderman]

Overheard by a gunstore commando clerk, advising a customer on how to handload for his .44 Magnum:

"Yep, I use a 240 grain jacketed bullet, and 33 grains of Bullseye.

"That Super Redhawk will take it just fine--I use it all the time."

:banghead:

 

[cwmcgu2]

What would be really funny is if the guy who sold/traded the gun to the store lied to get more money for his SKS and the gunstore employee fell for it.

Just because a person works at a gunstore doesn't mean they know alot about guns... probably one of the most important lessons I've learned since getting into firearms.

 

[bpisler]

I overheard a saleman tell a lady that a 357
magnum can kill someone even if they are
wearing a ballistic vest because of hydro-
static shock.I'am really not surprised to say
that this shop in now closed.

 

[MilsurpShooter]

That milsurp stuff will ruin the rifling. The bullets are just too hard on those old WWII barrels. You should buy this new stuff I just got in, only $18 for a box of 20

 

[javacodeman]

I overheard a saleman tell a lady that a 357
magnum can kill someone even if they are
wearing a ballistic vest because of hydro-
static shock.I'am really not surprised to say
that this shop in now closed.

I'm no expert, and my aim is not to cause thread drift. But...

FWIW, I saw an episode on the History Channel (IIRC) that talked about the invention fo the bullet proof vest. It recounted that just stopping the bullet wasn't enough but that the "shock wave" also had to be absorbed so as too not cause injury to internal organs. So it seems like there may be some thread of truth in what was said. Now specifics as to bullet/vest combos that would cause this will have to come from somebody who knows more about it than me.

java

 

[ceetee]

It recounted that just stopping the bullet wasn't enough but that the "shock wave" also had to be absorbed so as too not cause injury to internal organs.

Any time you have an impact, there's going to be impact damage, or blunt trauma. In the case of a handgun round, the impact force is equal to... what? A well-thrown baseball? So however much internal damage a good fastball can do is how much that vest has to prevent.

 

[Onmilo]

I bet that "SKS" rifle the vet brought back was actually a German G-43 semi auto carbine.
These rifles fire the full power 8mm Mauser round and to somebody not terribly informed about military rifles it could be easily mistaken for the much more common SKS.
Some German Paratroopers who were sent to shore up defensive lines in Normandy were indeed armed with G-43 rifles.

$400.00 would be a real steal considering these G-43 rifles will bring at least two thousand dollars on the collector market for a functioning and complete example.

 

[TexasRifleman]

You should never shoot 7.62 NATO in a rifle, .308 is much lower pressure and safer for your guns.

Unfortunately I hear that one in many places besides gun stores.

 

[230RN]

Beisbol v .357 magnum v shotgun slug

Any time you have an impact, there's going to be impact damage, or blunt trauma. In the case of a handgun round, the impact force is equal to... what? A well-thrown baseball? So however much internal damage a good fastball can do is how much that vest has to prevent.

I'm doing this off the top of my head. Somebody check my assumptions and arithmetic for me:

BEISBOL - 5 1/4 OZ at 100 MPH = 110 ft lbs

MODERATE .357 LOAD - 158 gr at 1100 f/s = 426 ft lbs.

12 GA SHOTGUN SLUG - 1 oz at 1200 f/s = 510*** ft lbs.

(It's hard to see how any vest would keep someone from falling down if hit with a shotgun slug.)

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ERRATUM:
Tdultima in post #32 has kindly pointed out an error in my arithmetic. The 1-oz slug at 1200 f/s would have about 1400 ft-lbs of energy, not 510. :smite forehead: :smite forehead:

Moreover, I underguesstimated the velocity of a slug, which would be more like 1760 f/s for an energy of 3005 ft-lbs at the muzzle (12 gauge 3" Magnum). My guesstimate of 1200 f/s is more like the velocity at about 75 yards.

THANK YOU, tdultima !

 

[CajunBass]

I heard a salesman telling a customer in a local "cop shop"... "It's easy to do a trigger job on a Smith and Wesson revolver. You just take the screws out, and pry this plate off, then take a stone and clean up the hammer spur.........."

Same numbskull told a female customer, "You just get you one of these, and if anyone ***** with you, you just pull it and shoot until it stops shootings."

Another saleman. Different store told me, "No, we don't have any 9x18, but you can shoot .380 in it. Same stuff."

The funny one though was the salesman trying to explain to me why the used Ruger MK II, NRA endownment model he was selling for $599.00 was worth a lot more than the one just like it I had bought for my wife six months before at the same shop for $219.00 NIB. "Well you see this one............"

 

[spencerhut]

"This is where you can adjust it for different loads" - Pointing to the allen head on the end of a 1911 w/ a two piece guide rod.

 

[Bob Lindell]

Purchasing a some .32 Auto to break-in a mousegun - two boxes of FMJ and one box of JHP. Dimwit standing beside me pipes up, "Two for shootin', one for killin'..." :banghead:

Ignored him, thanked the clerk as I paid, and split. Nobody's asking you, dude...

 

[NORTEXED]

I remember the retired Air Force guy working in the shop around the corner from my Mom and Dads house telling the 20 Y.O. kid going Pheasent hunting with his Dad for the first time "You'll need 3" mag No. 2's, cause when those Pheasents come over, they're going to be flying high and fast, and you'll need something to really get up there to them" after buying 4 boxes of SuperX Double X Mags. he left. I ask the guy if he had ever hunted pheasents before and he said yea, sure, all the time up in New Hamphsire. DUHHHH

 

[Pilgrim]

"Yep, I use a 240 grain jacketed bullet, and 33 grains of Bullseye.

This can be interesting.

Pilgrim

 

[rchernandez]

"Yep, I use a 240 grain jacketed bullet, and 33 grains of Bullseye.

It'll fit! Just press all that powder down into the case!!!

 

[SASS#23149]

FRiend bought a Raven .22,
..yea,I know...
anyway,
It wouldn't feed reliably,so took it back to store,cycled it for the guy with his permission,and he say,
"well sure,it's not gonna feed cycling it by hand because YOU CAN CYCLE IT BY HAND MUCH FASTER THAN IT WOULD CYCLE UNDER RECOIL.
:banghead:

 

[Jim K]

I have known a lot of salesmen, some working in gun shops. A salesman's idea of his job is to sell. If that involves a little lie now and again, what the heck. Note that selling is a profession of its own; it doesn't require any extensive knowledge of the product, and most of the time a knowledgeable customer will know a lot more than the salesman.

Also, a salesman can, and will, sell anything. Guns today, cars tomorrow, ladies undies the next day - it doesn't matter. The only thing that will change is the lie. "Yes, sir, that .25 Baby Browning is just what you need for elephant hunting on your safari." "This Ford Focus will do just fine in the Talladega 500, should win easily." "Yes, ma'am, that girdle does wonders for your figure, no one would ever think you weigh 523 pounds."

Jim

 

[Sniper X]

I love this one, and hear it ALL the time on TV in gun shops when they are being interviewed, but not here.

This is a 12ga shotgun, (sounds of racking the slide) that sound ALONE will make ANY criminal run home and get out of your house!


HA HA! If that were true, everyone would just need an un loaded 12 ga pump in their bedroom, or better yet, and alarm with a RECORDINGof a pumpgun slide racking to make the criminals run home when they hear it!

 

[Guzzizzit]

A little over a year ago, i was told by a gun store cleark that GLOCK was no longer makeing Pistols in .357 Sig, 10mm Auto, .45 Gap or .40S&W. By some strang Coincidence, all he had in the case were 9mm and .45ACP GLOCKs, but i'm sure that had nothing to do with it.

 

[FortyCalGlock]

1st RULE OF SALES

SELL WHAT'S IN STOCK!!!

2nd Rule:

Sell whatever has the best profit margin. Make sure to refer to rule 1.

Whether your buying a car, stereo, gun, etc. the salesperson wants to make as much of you as possible. This will enlarge their check and allow them to buy cool things too.

 

[tinygnat219]

I love this one, and hear it ALL the time on TV in gun shops when they are being interviewed, but not here.

This is a 12ga shotgun, (sounds of racking the slide) that sound ALONE will make ANY criminal run home and get out of your house!

SniperX,

This was almost my first example. Priceless! You guys have something good going here. Keep it coming.

Here's another one: ".30-30's a great long distance round, it's trajectory is such that it will punch through a bulletproof vest". ***?