carnaby
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Gunstore guy telling a patron that "boat tails on rifle bullets only do any good when the bullet is traveling subsonic." 
I heard this in a Gunshop I go to alot
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Sniper X
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Theres allways the deal about the Glock.
I heard more thanonce back in the old days.
Yep, this is a Glock, it has a plastic frame and can't be detected on airport Xray machines.
I see this a s a weird sales technique....is the target audience hijackers?
And the one thereis OSME truth in, abut the Beretta 92s
This is a Beretta 92, now the only thing about this gun is ou don;t want to be in arms reach of your assailient, he can just reach up and grab the slide and jerk it right off!
I heard more thanonce back in the old days.
Yep, this is a Glock, it has a plastic frame and can't be detected on airport Xray machines.
I see this a s a weird sales technique....is the target audience hijackers?
And the one thereis OSME truth in, abut the Beretta 92s
This is a Beretta 92, now the only thing about this gun is ou don;t want to be in arms reach of your assailient, he can just reach up and grab the slide and jerk it right off!
Bula
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These are great stories. A while back I was buying a Browning Buckmark and I noticed they had their .45 acp 230 gr Hydroshoks on sale for $8 or$9 per box.I'm getting the paperwork cleared on the Browning and I ask the clerk to please include 3 boxes of the .45 ammo (all they had) in with the price of the pistol. He tells me "no" then he lectured me for 10 minutes instructing me that I had to use .22 ammo in my new pistol and that .45 acp ammo would not work. He even went so far as to try to show me that the .45 wouldn't load into the .22 mags "because they too big" I sat there amazed. His tone was a little more condecending then I expected from a 19 yr old!! I thanked him for the quick lesson, explained that I was pretty 'wise' as to which calibers would work in my .22 pistol and to get me the 3 boxes of .45 or I'd ask his manager to to come 'help' him get it off the shelf. I thanked him for his concern as he handed me the .45's.
HKUSP45C
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Jim Keenan said:
While this is certainly true of poor salesmen who only need another meager paycheck it's not the norm in my experience. May be at the retail level but certainly not for a salesman who actually wants to make a real living. I have sold some fairly technical things in my day and the first thing I learned was "Know thy wares." I made it a priority to be better informed than my competition and certainly moreso than my customers. Did well financially for my troubles too.
If a customer has a question you can't answer, he won't trust you. If you lie to him, he won't trust you. If you sell him something that doesn't suit his needs, he won't trust you. If he doesn't trust you he won't buy from you ... you'll starve, wifey will leave, car gets repo'd ... yada yada.
Sales depends on your ability to lie much like canning fruit depends on your ability to tap dance. Sure you may look good while you're doing it but in the end your results will be less than optimal.
Liars abound in all fields, sales is one of the few where you can actually make a few bucks every time you do it ... the rub is: It's usually only once per customer.
On topic:
The 308 vs 7.62X51 being different thing really irks me.
I was told by a store clerk one time that one out of five handloads was destined to explode in the gun and that if I didn't believe him I could look it up. People are killed daily because reloading is soooo dangerous. The Federal Gold Match ammo he was selling for so cheap ($47 for 20X 308) was designed to be "non-explosive" so it would be a better buy.
I love silly people ... I need the comic relief from time to time.
Sunray
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"...some thread of truth..." The whole purpose of a vest is to spread the force of the impact. There is usually some bruising, but that's way better than a hole in your personal eco-system.
Didn't hear it in a shop, but overheard, on a public range, a CF militia plug telling his buddy it was impossible to shoot a C1A1 left handed. I asked him how I had managed to shoot 'expert' left.
"...does wonders for your figure..." And the answer is, "It's not the dress."
Didn't hear it in a shop, but overheard, on a public range, a CF militia plug telling his buddy it was impossible to shoot a C1A1 left handed. I asked him how I had managed to shoot 'expert' left.
"...does wonders for your figure..." And the answer is, "It's not the dress."
Ummm... that happens to be a basically true statement.
TDULTIMA:
You're right. I'll have to go back over my notes on that one which I calced in the bathroom....
...doesn't everyone keep a calculator in the bathroom? I also underestimated the velocity of a 12ga slug. :confused chagrined embarrased:
I thought the answer sounded light, that's why I added the "checking" statement.
(Let that be my worst mistake of the week.)
THANKS!
boomer1911a1
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Sniper, this may be a cliche, but I'd like to believe it's true! Of course, as you suggest, the proper thing is to have a full magazine of double-aught buck shot to chamber...
My wife bought me some ammo for my birthday. She didn't know much about my guns but knew that I hade a 45 automatic and a 38 revolver. She got the 45ACP ok but the guy sold her a box of 38SW that he probally had on the shelf for years and knew that he would never sell it legitimatly. And of course "no returns on ammo".
bogie
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Thing is, I knew a guy a few years ago... A gun store guy sold him a container of bullseye to load a muzzleloader rifle with. I suspect that after listening to the fellow go on about how he wanted the most powerful stuff they had, they just wanted to make him go away... Permanently.
10X
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"You can't use Remington shells in a Winchester gun!"
Well, in my opinion that may be immoral but that doesn't mean you can't.
Well, in my opinion that may be immoral but that doesn't mean you can't.
ZeSpectre
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Wasn't that one of the Lethal Weapon movies?
heypete
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Yes. I attempted to do just this while the gun was loaded with inert snap caps. To the best of my knowledge, the dexterity needed to push the takedown button, flip the take down lever, and pull the slide off (even with an unloaded gun) is essentially impossible someone's pointing the gun at you.
With it loaded, I seem to recall it being impossible, but I'm not entirely sure why.
I was in a gun shop once and THE OWNER tried to tell a guy who wanted ammo for a Tokarev he got in a pawn shop that they didn't know what he was talking about, and that he must be confused. I cut into the conversation and referred him to shotgun news.
EricTheBarbarian
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you cant use corrosive ammo it'll ruin your gun. sir do you have any surplus ammo? yea we have some Wolf. this is my favorite referring to 8mm mauser. You cant hunt with fmj. All it will do is just put an 8mm hole through something. fmj is designed to wound the enemy to take more people out of the fight and isn't made to kill. Also, another guy is saying he has the last case of surplus ammo that is ever going to be imported. the remington 710 is basically an improved version of the 700 with some better upgrade features and is more accurate.
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This was actually true in the first models. When they realized it could happen they changed teh design so It couldn't happen.
heypete
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Maybe I'm lucky, but the only knuckleheads I've seen in the gun shops are the customers. The staff seem to be rather knowledgeable and not prone to speculation.
When I was buying ammo (very reasonably priced too), I commented on how much ammo prices have been going up over the last year or two. The shopkeeper agreed, and suggested it was likely due to increased demand for copper, lead, steel, and other metals by rapidly growing economies in India, China, and other places around the world. For once, a non-conspiratorial answer!
The shopkeepers here will readily admit when they do not know something, and refer me to another employee who does, or if nobody knows the answer, they'll say so. I have a great deal of respect for that, even if it does mean I don't buy something that day.
I also like the fact that I can walk in there and say, "I'd like a AR-15 with a 20" barrel, A3 upper, and M16-style solid stock, preferably made by Bushmaster", and they'll say "Ok, right over here" and show me the gun exactly matching my description. They don't try to sell me something I don't need, and I keep coming back for ammo, guns, and reloading components.
Of course, they do charge 18% on consignments, and I can sell something on GunsAmerica or another forum for less, but I don't really mind that.
When I was buying ammo (very reasonably priced too), I commented on how much ammo prices have been going up over the last year or two. The shopkeeper agreed, and suggested it was likely due to increased demand for copper, lead, steel, and other metals by rapidly growing economies in India, China, and other places around the world. For once, a non-conspiratorial answer!
The shopkeepers here will readily admit when they do not know something, and refer me to another employee who does, or if nobody knows the answer, they'll say so. I have a great deal of respect for that, even if it does mean I don't buy something that day.
I also like the fact that I can walk in there and say, "I'd like a AR-15 with a 20" barrel, A3 upper, and M16-style solid stock, preferably made by Bushmaster", and they'll say "Ok, right over here" and show me the gun exactly matching my description. They don't try to sell me something I don't need, and I keep coming back for ammo, guns, and reloading components.
Of course, they do charge 18% on consignments, and I can sell something on GunsAmerica or another forum for less, but I don't really mind that.
ME: Wow, that used Mossberg .22 is dirt cheap. Is there a catch?
THEM: No our gunsmith double checks, and test fires all the used hardware. If anything is wrong he replaces it immediately.
ME: Great I'll take it
16 hours later I am back in the store
ME: The gun doesn't feed or cycle right. Now it's jammed so bad the bolt won't open. I thought you said all your guns are tested fired.
THEM: It must have slipped trough we get a ton of used stock. Don't worry we'll have back to you free of charge in two weeks...
That was THREE MONTHS ago. I call once a week, half the time they don't know if the gun is at the factory or what.
Now I go to much better place that doesn't lie and knows what they are talking about.
IF you live on Long Island or Buy online Stay away from:
Coliseum Gun Traders in Uniondale
THEM: No our gunsmith double checks, and test fires all the used hardware. If anything is wrong he replaces it immediately.
ME: Great I'll take it
16 hours later I am back in the store
ME: The gun doesn't feed or cycle right. Now it's jammed so bad the bolt won't open. I thought you said all your guns are tested fired.
THEM: It must have slipped trough we get a ton of used stock. Don't worry we'll have back to you free of charge in two weeks...
That was THREE MONTHS ago. I call once a week, half the time they don't know if the gun is at the factory or what.
Now I go to much better place that doesn't lie and knows what they are talking about.
IF you live on Long Island or Buy online Stay away from:
Coliseum Gun Traders in Uniondale
ArfinGreebly
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Is that an 870?
Guy at the gun counter, 20 feet away looking at ammo, my back is turned.
Customer: "Can I see that shotgun there?"
* Works pump action -- "chack-chack" *
Customer: "I've heard that's the most distinctive sound in firearms!"
Me, turning and looking: "Is that an 870?"
Counter guy: "Yup."
Me: "Thought that sounded familiar."
(Lively conversation ensues between customer and counter guy.)
Does that make me evil?
Guy at the gun counter, 20 feet away looking at ammo, my back is turned.
Customer: "Can I see that shotgun there?"
* Works pump action -- "chack-chack" *
Customer: "I've heard that's the most distinctive sound in firearms!"
Me, turning and looking: "Is that an 870?"
Counter guy: "Yup."
Me: "Thought that sounded familiar."
(Lively conversation ensues between customer and counter guy.)
Does that make me evil?
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