Dorryn
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And isnt it technically a flash suppressor, not a hider? But I could be wrong.
I heard this in a Gunshop I go to alot
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carnaby
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OK, last time I'll post on this too... I just want to clarify. The boat tail DOES make a significant difference from the point of view of aerodynamics in both the supersonic and subsonic ranges. It does not, apparently, make too much difference to ballistics in the supersonic range.
My best guess is that this is due to the increased time of flight for a subsonic bullet to the same distance mark as a supersonic bullet. More time under an effect equals, well, more effect. That oughta do it.
That, and if you're one of those super long distance shooter's who's trying to eek out the highest possible BC, a boat tail does do that, if not by much.
My best guess is that this is due to the increased time of flight for a subsonic bullet to the same distance mark as a supersonic bullet. More time under an effect equals, well, more effect. That oughta do it.
That, and if you're one of those super long distance shooter's who's trying to eek out the highest possible BC, a boat tail does do that, if not by much.
budney
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Visiting in Illinois...
...so I called the local Dicks to see if they were still selling 9mm ammo on sale (Winchester, $6.98 case price per box). Mentioned that I was an out-of-stater and hence had no FOID. He replied, "You hafta have a foyd."
I "reminded" him that non-residents can't get an FOID. "Then ya can't buy nothin' you gotta have a foyd. It's Illinois state law."
Knowing it was useless, but giving it one last shot, I clarified that no law requires me to have an FOID to buy ammunition. "OK, then it's against company policy. You can't buy anything here. (laugh)"
"OK, well do you mind if I double-check that with your manager?"
"I AM the manager." :banghead:
--Len.
...so I called the local Dicks to see if they were still selling 9mm ammo on sale (Winchester, $6.98 case price per box). Mentioned that I was an out-of-stater and hence had no FOID. He replied, "You hafta have a foyd."
I "reminded" him that non-residents can't get an FOID. "Then ya can't buy nothin' you gotta have a foyd. It's Illinois state law."
Knowing it was useless, but giving it one last shot, I clarified that no law requires me to have an FOID to buy ammunition. "OK, then it's against company policy. You can't buy anything here. (laugh)"
"OK, well do you mind if I double-check that with your manager?"
"I AM the manager." :banghead:
--Len.
Zen21Tao
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My all time favorite.
A few years back I found a barcoded Sig P239 that I have confirmed with Sigarms to have come from their Testing and Evaluation program.
When I was looking at it in a local gun/military surplus store the clerk said that 'all new Sigs come from the factory with a bar code now' and that I could 'get some cleaner (I forgot what he suggested as a cleaner) and just scratch it off.'
A few years back I found a barcoded Sig P239 that I have confirmed with Sigarms to have come from their Testing and Evaluation program.
When I was looking at it in a local gun/military surplus store the clerk said that 'all new Sigs come from the factory with a bar code now' and that I could 'get some cleaner (I forgot what he suggested as a cleaner) and just scratch it off.'
MrDig
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Here's a myth that I used to here a lot "A Gun Rack and a Harley Emblem in your truck window will keep people from breaking into your Truck".
While Back in the day a Harley Emblem most often meant Biker Club today it means you are an Orthodontist or other PhD level education that has the expendable income to afford a Harley. Not a H.A. or other Club
No offense meant to Biker and or others that ride them but most working class folk can't get there easily.
While Back in the day a Harley Emblem most often meant Biker Club today it means you are an Orthodontist or other PhD level education that has the expendable income to afford a Harley. Not a H.A. or other Club
No offense meant to Biker and or others that ride them but most working class folk can't get there easily.
Actually there is isn't quite correct but very close to the truth .
Guns & Ammo had an article in the 80's on a home trigger job for these revolvers that worked very well .
You removed the sideplate and the internals and LIGHTLY stoned the hammer and sear with a fine oil stone .
I ran my 586 parts over a stone about a dozen times and put it back together , it made a huge difference in the feel of the trigger especialy when using it double action . Everyone I let try it loved it and thought I had paid a smith for a trigger job .
I almost got sick when I read about "prying" the sideplate off, and I've heard that one, too --and seen the results on otherwise fine guns.
No, you tap the frame with a soft Newtonian Hammer and the side plate stays in the same place in the Universe and the gun moves away from it.
Sorry, most of the BS I hear from store clerks goes in one ear and out the other, so I don't remember any of it.
No, you tap the frame with a soft Newtonian Hammer and the side plate stays in the same place in the Universe and the gun moves away from it.
Sorry, most of the BS I hear from store clerks goes in one ear and out the other, so I don't remember any of it.
actualy. remington cheap shells have poor ejection in my 20 gauge M12. they are just a smidgon too long, cant, and fail to eject. the Winchesters iv used worked great. but then again it is Cheap remingtons and a 90 sumthing year old shotgun
iv had a number of run ins with Mosins/ Mausers/SKS's all labeled wrong.
one of the better ones was a SBS.
i was just asking questions and asked if it was SBS or AOW ( i already knew it was AOW from a previous convo with the owner)
the clerk then told me its a "sawn off"
i asked again, SBS or AOW
he says " well it was sawn off in another state so it wasnt subject to MA laws"
hes saying this as hes taking it out of the case incase i want to look at it.
i declined to put my prints on it
oh and a good laugh on the phone as me and a shop owner went back and forth
i asked him about a VZ52 rifle
Me: "so its not a hicap and can be bought on FID"
Him: "its not a high cap but it needs LTC class B"
" no not the CZ52. the VZ52"
"the cz52?"
"no, VZ"
"ya CZ"
"no VZ, Victor Zulu"
"oh. wow. im way off"
the whole time i was talking rifle. he was talking pistol and we thought the other knew
starbuck
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And the one thereis OSME truth in, abut the Beretta 92s
This is a Beretta 92, now the only thing about this gun is ou don;t want to be in arms reach of your assailient, he can just reach up and grab the slide and jerk it right off!
It's a little more complicated than that. You have to press the slide release, and move the release level down. Neither of which you can do while the trigger is being pulled
This is a Beretta 92, now the only thing about this gun is ou don;t want to be in arms reach of your assailient, he can just reach up and grab the slide and jerk it right off!
It's a little more complicated than that. You have to press the slide release, and move the release level down. Neither of which you can do while the trigger is being pulled
Frog48
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Taking advice from a gunshop salesman is like asking a cop for legal advice or having a JiffyLube flunkie rebuild your transmission.. 
Axman
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I went to a gunshop to pick up a few boxes of .25ACP once. I asked the guy for .25ACP. His reply was, "All we have is regular .25 Auto.":banghead:
Zen21Tao
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Recently I had a friend that had been a gun collector for a long time (many years) make a statement so far out there that it deserves a Carlos Mencia "dee dee dee" award.
We went into a local gun shop for him to buy a specific shotgun that he saw their earlier and said was a really good deal. When he looked at the shotgun again he looked at me and said he couldn't buy it because it was in chambered for 3” shells but he wanted a shotgun to shoot 2-3/4" shells out of. He even told this to the salesman behind the counter. He swears up and down he was just kidding with us but the honesty on his face when he said it and the immediate redness in his cheeks when he heard these words repeated aloud say otherwise.
All I can say is:
We went into a local gun shop for him to buy a specific shotgun that he saw their earlier and said was a really good deal. When he looked at the shotgun again he looked at me and said he couldn't buy it because it was in chambered for 3” shells but he wanted a shotgun to shoot 2-3/4" shells out of. He even told this to the salesman behind the counter. He swears up and down he was just kidding with us but the honesty on his face when he said it and the immediate redness in his cheeks when he heard these words repeated aloud say otherwise.
All I can say is:
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