I need confirmation about Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co.'s alleged gun ban.

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I came across this little tidbit in Wikipedia in the Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co. article:

Recently customers have noticed a "no firearms allowed" sign posted on the entrance doors to all Goodyear stores. The official response from the company is as follows:

In an effort to ensure the safety and security of our associates and customers, we have a clear company policy regarding weapons in the workplace. The Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co. prohibits all persons who enter Company property from carrying a handgun, firearm, or prohibited weapon of any kind onto the property regardless of whether the person is licensed to carry the weapon or not. Exceptions apply to on-duty law enforcement personnel. This policy applies to all Company employees, visitors, customers, and contractors on Company property -- including our Company-owned stores. All Company properties have received a decal or sign referencing this policy, and have been instructed to post it.

The policy also restricts off-duty officers of the law from carrying a firearm into the store as well.
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However, it is an unsubstantiated assertion. Further looking could find no other reference that wasn't also taken from Wikipedia.

So, is this legitimate, or is it another example of nonsense from Wikipedia? If it's true, is it universally legally enforceable? More to the point, if it's true I know I'm not ever buying any more Goodyear rolling stock.
 
A friend of mine is a parole officer and says that he is required to carry all the time whether on the clock or not. Guess he won't be shopping here.
 
Prohibit CCW and off duty LE? Stupid. Haven't seen the sign in AZ yet, but I wasn't looking. Guess I could drop by one and take a gander.
 
It all sounds legit, up till they include off-duty LEOs in the ban. Though maybe I need to pay more attention to such policies, seems that I notice the words "ON DUTY" when they talk about exception to the policies of no-guns.
 
Nothing on Snopes either.

I thought all those outlets were privately owned franchisees? I know the one nearest me is. Never noticed if it's posted as they are WAY too expensive and I don't go there.
 
If this is true, Goodyear corporate counsel obviously hasn't read the law concerning off duty carry by Police Officers.

In Texas, 46.02 is Unlawful Carrying of a Weapon, and 46.03 is Places Weapons Prohibited.

§ 46.15. NONAPPLICABILITY. (a) Sections 46.02 and 46.03
do not apply to:
(1) peace officers or special investigators under
Article 2.122, Code of Criminal Procedure, and neither section
prohibits a peace officer or special investigator from carrying a
weapon in this state, including in an establishment in this state
serving the public, regardless of whether the peace officer or
special investigator is engaged in the actual discharge of the
officer's or investigator's duties while carrying the weapon;

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
Sent to Goodyear. I'll post whatever I get back.

It has come to my attention via Internet communications that Goodyear has adopted a No Firearms policy througout the company, including customers in its retail stores.

I am looking for confirmation or denial of what I still consider to be a rumor.

If Goodyear has indeed adopted a No Firearms policy, that says to me that Goodyear does not consider the safety of its customers to be of importance, as law abiding gun owners will be the only persons affected by such a policy. I have bought many Goodyear tires over the years, but if the rumor is indeed true, I will remain consistent to my convictions and will no longer purchase any Goodyear products. I will also use any means of communication I can, including Internet forums and blogs, to discourage other gun owners from buying Goodyear products.

Please let me know whether or not this rumor is true.

Thank you,

Mr White
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I work at one of the Goodyear stores here in Statesboro Ga and we are not posted. I haven't heard anything about this, ill ask my boss tomorrow at work. My bosses all know that I'm the resident gunny:p. Hell, I've gone shooting with some of them on the weekends. We are a franchise/ independent shop so it my be different for us.

HH
 
Saw the sign the last time I was at my local Goodyear here in Tucson, emphasis on last time.

It is a pity because the service and prices are really top notch.
 
if goodyear or a hospital post no firearms sign and i carry one anyway with my ccw permit am i breaking the law or just their rules?

my ccw instructor said i would only be breaking their rules, not the law. i understand i would be breaking the law if i carry in a public school funded by the state, a court room, the state capital, a bar, a parade.

also, i saw a no firearms sign in a post office. can i still carry in there without breaking the law? meaning going to jail or losing my ccw permit?

what about banks? i forgot to ask about that.

im in louisiana btw.
 
I worked for Goodyear for a few years as a technician (company store), and we used to get stupid crap like this all the time from corporate, we mostly ignored it and threw it in the trash. The bigger question, and I am sure it varies state-by-state, is if violating a posted "no-weapons" sign is a punishable offense, or the shop can only tell you to hit the road. If it is not law, I wouldn't pay it any mind, concealed means concealed, if law, well then see if the firestone down the road has a sign, and let GY know why you are taking your buisness elsewhere. As far as off duty or plainclothes officers, what are they going to do, tell you to arrest yourself?
 
if goodyear or a hospital post no firearms sign and i carry one anyway with my ccw permit am i breaking the law or just their rules?
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Depends on your state. Most states seem to allow concealed carry. BUT, if you get made AND are asked to leave, then you must or you could get nailed with trespassing. Some states do not allow carry on private property that is posted.

i understand i would be breaking the law if i carry in a public school funded by the state, a court room, the state capital, a bar, a parade.
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Again, this depends on your state also. In my state (Utah), you can carry at schools with a permit. And at bars if you're not drinking. And at public gatherings. In fact, the only places you can't carry are secure areas (airports, court houses) and Mormon churches.

also, i saw a no firearms sign in a post office. can i still carry in there without breaking the law? meaning going to jail or losing my ccw permit?
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This one's a bit trickier. The federal law says you can't have weapons there UNLESS LEGALLY ALLOWED. The exemption is intended for LEO. But it has not yet been clarified if this applies to permit holders also. Anyone volunteer to be the guinea pig?
 
Guys, I have an idea...

And this is where nobody does anything but argue. Let the folks who wanna derail things argue. It's an opportunity for action!

Get onto Goodyear's homepage, and hit their contacts. Do it however you want. Do it at random. But let them know that you saw your Goodyear store with a sign that said that it didn't want you as a customer, and you're upset about that.

If I do it, they figure I'm a crackpot.

If a dozen of us do it, they figure that someone somewhere has gotten a might torqued.

If a few thousand of the members here do it, then maybe, just maybe, an edict will come down from corporate saying not to put up the stupid signs.

http://www.goodyear.com/email/index.html

And now someone will post trying to derail...
 
Message gone to Goodyear via email.

If they don't respect me, there are plenty of other places to take my business.
 
In Michigan, they can only ask a permitted carrier to leave.If you leave,you cannot be charged with a crime.They cannot regulate LEO carry at all.The State says they can carry anywhere.Feds can overrule the state laws.
 
I'm going to check the goodyear around here and see....if they have it they won't have me as a customer anymore
 
i worked at a goodyear tire in funny but goodyear arizona. we had the sign out front but the store manager had CC and i always had my 9m in my tool box while at work. i think he ended up taking the sign down just after i left.
 
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