Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by sm, May 6, 2012.
This reminds me to hit up some of those auctions i keep hearing about.
It is a terminable offense.
We have allowed ourselves to become an abomination to the Founders through our laziness and our acceptance of things we knew were wrong. "But football is on" or "They can't do that" or "I really don't NEED full auto anyway" or "It's for the children" or "I can't stand up for that, what would people think"
It will only get worse as our schools teach our children and we, as parents, do not.
My wife flys but If I can't drive I don't go!!!!!!!!!
Since we all know that you can't take anything like a knife into the sterile area of an airport or onto an airline flight it behooves us to check ourselves and our carry-ons to make sure we don't leave something we treasure at the security station where it ends up sold as surplus at auction.
I've been on 8 flights this year alone and I'm not nearly done for the year. I shake out every bag and turn out every pocket before I leave the house for a flight. If I'm gone more than overnight I check my bag and stash my 2 knives in with my shave kit which has a small pair of scissors and a flashlight along with my razor otherwise I do not carry a knife.
It occurred to me that it's possible---maybe likely---that a single confiscated knife could be sold and confiscated over and over again. Maybe it's an economic incentive to boost the economy!
The security theater that the TSA represents is disgusting to me. They are now expanding from airports to highways, train stations, and street corners. Welcome to East Germany.
But think about it. Arnt we the people you would want on planes if something happened.
Good productive citizen, tax payers, veterans, dads, grandpa's. People who know right from wrong and believe we should stand up to evil.
Why are we suspect? What good comes from groping grannies, and kids? Have I not vetted myself enough in 63 yrs of of productive living to be trusted?
Disgusting, illegal, immoral, and not the values of my U.S.
Otherwise, I refuse to fly. We are taking a vacation in a few weeks to go see our son who lives roughly 1200 miles from us in another state. Even at $4.00 + per gallon gas, I still refuse to fly.
My biggest beef with TSA was in 2010 when I was flying home from Afghanistan. I was with a plane load of soldiers coming home for R&R. We were all in uniform, and had done all the custom searches on the way home through Kuwait. The Atlanta airport is laid out so that to connect to another flight you have to go through TSA checks again. My lap top was questioned and I had to take it out and let them look it over (even though) it had a US Customs tag on it (minutes counting down until my next flight leaves). Then my boots set off the alarm. Apparently they had a steel shank as part of their construction. I was pulled from the line and had to take them off for inspection. All said, I barely caught my connecting flight home. The TSA employee was very amused at my situation... Total BS. I guess returning soldiers in a group, returning through one of the major airline hubs used by the military look like a threat. NO, I WILL NEVER FLY AGAIN IF ANY OTHER OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE.
The one that made me think that TSA agents had collectively lost their minds was them taking a soldiers fingernail clipper from him, then letting him on the plane with his M4.
If anyone looses a knife to TSA these days, then I don't believe they deserved to have it in the first place. They sure must not have cared about it to carry it to the airport. Come on, unless you've been living under a rock, everyone pretty much knows NOT TO BRING A KNIFE TO THE AIRPORT. Really simple.
In the years since 9-11, I've flown many times and taken a knife with me every time. I just shove it down in some rolled up socks in my checked bags. I get to the other end, collect my bag from the carousel and stick my knife back in my pocket.
I love that some idiots are still screwing up and loosing their knives, because it lets me pick from some nice knives at the local gun show where a lady always has a big box of TSA confiscated knives. I buy ton's of keychain sak's like classics and ramblers for 2 dollars each for give aways, and I've found a bone handle Case jack and a Buck folder. They were in dirty but good shape needing only a good scrubbing with dish soap and an old toothbrush. Now they are in service again with owners who will care for them. Unlike their former owners.
So many of you guys swearing never to fly anywhere, you're depriving yourself of a lot of great times in interesting locations. Okay, so you can't carry a knife on an airline. In the many times I've flown, I've never been unarmed, and TSA has never even my blackthorn stick, minimag AA flashlight, leather belt with heavy buckle, or Cross pen a second glance.
Yeah, it's a cute little story that sm posted, but when somebody looses a nice knife at the airport, the bozo deserved to lose it. He certainly must not have carried much about it.
I know someone who usually flies with one of those pre-paid envelope/package things so he can mail would-be confiscated items back to himself.
You may be right. But, I don't figure I will ever see all the interesting places I can drive too. As long as the masses keep patronizing idiots, their behavior will continue. I know my lone protest probably won't make a difference. At least when I get hungry, I can get something besides a .5 ounce bag of salted nuts and a soft drink.
I know there are more fun ways to get to a destination.
our property.. our tax dollars..
TSA is happy if you decide not to fly.
And secondly and most important, you don't have to "surrender" your knife. You can take it back out of the checkpoint, mail it to yourself, put it in your car, or throw it away outside of the sterile area.
Alot of the rules seem overly strict and arbitrary but I prefer them rather then living thru another 9-11. If 5 guys decide to hijack a plane with their bare hands, I figure they have the rest of us passengers to deal with bare handed and I like the odds.
Remember we all have a choice, airlines, cars, buses, boats etc
And I meamn that in the nicest way possible....
The scary part is, a lot of folks in the major parties would love to see the entire nation ruled like an airport.
Do you always think about what is on your keychain, especially a tiny multi-tool that nobody else gives a damn about? I fly a lot, and it is just not worth the hassle of taking it on and off before I go to the airport or get out of my car. Once in a great while, I'd forget to take the thing off my keychain, especially when in a hurry to make a flight on short notice.
PRM- nice trike
I fly 3-4 times a year. I use the same backpack I take to the range.
If you do not take the time to scrutinize your items before you go, you deserve what you get. You KNOW they'll be looking.
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