natedog
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Count me in. I'd consider that (besides the false and/or subjective ones) to be a list of advantages.
I Submit The Bhp Is The Ultimate All Around Handgun
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Count me in. I'd consider that (besides the false and/or subjective ones) to be a list of advantages.
THE BROWNING HI POWER IS THE ULTIMATE ALL AROUND HANDGUN..
The rationale for this bold, yet so easlily defensaible provocation is a s follows.
1. It fires a cartridge that is ADEQUATE in power for all applications...from target shooting to hself defense to hunting.
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Its good for defense but not hunting unles your shooting small game.
2. it has a high magazine capacity, and magazines are plentiful
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Does not matter now all hi cap mags are cheap and plentiful.
3. It is very accurate and poiunts naturally
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Its no more accurate than most other service autos like Sigs, Beretta's Glocks ext. Pointing is a subjecting issue.
4. It is relaible, strudy and battle proven
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So are a lot of other guns previously mentioned.
5. It is simple to operate, low recoil
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So are a lot of other 9mm service pistols. Nothing special here.
6. It fits VIRTUALLY everbody
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Again nothing that alot of other 9mm service pistols are not.
7. It conceals very well and is light for its size
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It does conceal well. It is not light for its size. Its a steel framed gun at 35 onces compared to polimer guns its heavy.
I much prefer the Glock 17. Its trigger is far better. I have had 3 BHP's and even when they are worked on they still have a long reset. BHP's do have a good feel which is a plus. They do bite peoples hands however unless they are modified. (Hammerbite) A glock is simpler to operate. Magazines are cheap for Glocks now.
I like the 9mm but I would not hunt anything with it. The BHP is a fine choice but its not the best of anything.
Pat
The rationale for this bold, yet so easlily defensaible provocation is a s follows.
1. It fires a cartridge that is ADEQUATE in power for all applications...from target shooting to hself defense to hunting.
END
Its good for defense but not hunting unles your shooting small game.
2. it has a high magazine capacity, and magazines are plentiful
END
Does not matter now all hi cap mags are cheap and plentiful.
3. It is very accurate and poiunts naturally
END
Its no more accurate than most other service autos like Sigs, Beretta's Glocks ext. Pointing is a subjecting issue.
4. It is relaible, strudy and battle proven
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So are a lot of other guns previously mentioned.
5. It is simple to operate, low recoil
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So are a lot of other 9mm service pistols. Nothing special here.
6. It fits VIRTUALLY everbody
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Again nothing that alot of other 9mm service pistols are not.
7. It conceals very well and is light for its size
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It does conceal well. It is not light for its size. Its a steel framed gun at 35 onces compared to polimer guns its heavy.
I much prefer the Glock 17. Its trigger is far better. I have had 3 BHP's and even when they are worked on they still have a long reset. BHP's do have a good feel which is a plus. They do bite peoples hands however unless they are modified. (Hammerbite) A glock is simpler to operate. Magazines are cheap for Glocks now.
I like the 9mm but I would not hunt anything with it. The BHP is a fine choice but its not the best of anything.
Pat
Nick96
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Hey, natedog, from your tag line - I DO LIVE IN TEXAS. Ha Ha Ha!!!!!! - - - - - NA NA NA NA NA NAAAAA!!!!! Here in The Lone Star State (a/k/a The Republic of Texas) - we get to carry concealed whatever handgun we want - whenever we want - most anywhere we want.
Hey just fool'in with you - please accept this in the humor it is intended - but I just couldn't resist. In my opinion, and fortunatally shared by our State's elected officials, people should have the right to defend themselves with what ever reasonable means they determine is necessary. The instrument they choose is really of little concern to me.
Hey just fool'in with you - please accept this in the humor it is intended - but I just couldn't resist. In my opinion, and fortunatally shared by our State's elected officials, people should have the right to defend themselves with what ever reasonable means they determine is necessary. The instrument they choose is really of little concern to me.
I was a die hard wheel gunner and Sig fan...until I bougth a 1911 and then a BHP...Now I have to admit in Autos that a HP is numero uno...BTW I have never had a problem with my HP shooting JHP bullets....Is it common for the BHP to not feed JHP bullets....I know that old 1911's loved round nose bullets but was not aware of this with the HP...mine is a MKIII and made in 1994 if that makes any difference.
natedog
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Don't mind me, I'm just jealous 
. Hope to join the rest of the family in Arlington soon.
Works for me.
. Hope to join the rest of the family in Arlington soon.Works for me.
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Hello. Some of the older classic style Hi Powers having the humped feed ramp could be a bit selective on which JHP ammunition they'd reliably feed. While this could be handled by a competent gunsmith "throating" the one-piece feed ramp, it's not been a concern since the advent of the Mk II and the Mk III pistols. These versions usually feed most JHP ammunition w/o problems.
Best.
Best.
Hawk
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Hi-Power noob reporting in after first trip to range...
Thefumegator is correct - my impulse purchase was a "Practical". A subsequent check of Browning's web site shows the slide as "matte blue" - I swear it looks like black Roguard, but who cares anyway? Looks pretty nice. The frame is chromed steel - I'd have guessed alloy, so that puts me at 0 for 2 so far.
100 rounds of disreputable looking bulk pack frangible truncated nose 9mm went through with nary a bobble. POI==POA whoohoo! Nice group, too (for me that is).
The trigger was considerably better than I expected. Probably heavy (haven't put the scale on it - kinda afraid to) but reasonably clean. Sort of like a 1911 with a long, gritty take-up that I don't really notice when actually firing the thing.
I'm inclined to leave the trigger and mag disconnect alone for another 900 rounds and see what develops.
The burning need I thought would be there to "fix" it just isn't there.
It came with 2 really strange ten round mags that used the "empty space" at the bottom of the mag to house a spring that serves to fling the mag free when released - a sort of Nitrous-boosted drop-free, if you will. I've never seen anything like it before - does anybody know if this was an attempt to make lemonaid out of the '94 AWB lemon they were handed, or if that spring dohickey pre-dated AWB '94?
A couple of Mec-Gar 15's from Brownell's is on the agenda. I've never been a fan of nitro-drop-free, anyway.
I'm not so sure about "ultimate" but I'm now convinced one's handgun experience is not complete without cozying up to the old warhorse at least once. I'm glad I got it. Oddly enough, I find myself checking listings on the polished blue version, and hanging around Mr. Camp's web site. And Esmeralda is making Hi-power grips. [Homer] mmmmm, pretty [/Homer]
Polished steel and nice wood are some of the little joys in life. The Glock is a superbly functional arm. I own one. It's around here somewhere... Anybody in DFW want a G21 3rd gen with tritium sights and an M3 light for a polished blue HP with ...
Thefumegator is correct - my impulse purchase was a "Practical". A subsequent check of Browning's web site shows the slide as "matte blue" - I swear it looks like black Roguard, but who cares anyway? Looks pretty nice. The frame is chromed steel - I'd have guessed alloy, so that puts me at 0 for 2 so far.
100 rounds of disreputable looking bulk pack frangible truncated nose 9mm went through with nary a bobble. POI==POA whoohoo! Nice group, too (for me that is).
The trigger was considerably better than I expected. Probably heavy (haven't put the scale on it - kinda afraid to) but reasonably clean. Sort of like a 1911 with a long, gritty take-up that I don't really notice when actually firing the thing.
I'm inclined to leave the trigger and mag disconnect alone for another 900 rounds and see what develops.
The burning need I thought would be there to "fix" it just isn't there.
It came with 2 really strange ten round mags that used the "empty space" at the bottom of the mag to house a spring that serves to fling the mag free when released - a sort of Nitrous-boosted drop-free, if you will. I've never seen anything like it before - does anybody know if this was an attempt to make lemonaid out of the '94 AWB lemon they were handed, or if that spring dohickey pre-dated AWB '94?
A couple of Mec-Gar 15's from Brownell's is on the agenda. I've never been a fan of nitro-drop-free, anyway.
I'm not so sure about "ultimate" but I'm now convinced one's handgun experience is not complete without cozying up to the old warhorse at least once. I'm glad I got it. Oddly enough, I find myself checking listings on the polished blue version, and hanging around Mr. Camp's web site. And Esmeralda is making Hi-power grips. [Homer] mmmmm, pretty [/Homer]
Polished steel and nice wood are some of the little joys in life. The Glock is a superbly functional arm. I own one. It's around here somewhere... Anybody in DFW want a G21 3rd gen with tritium sights and an M3 light for a polished blue HP with ...
Did not read the whole thread.
"I submit the BHP is the ultimate all around handgun."
Well yeah, except for that trigger that usually needs a lot of work, and never does get real good.
Well yeah, except for that stupid magazine safety that needs to be removed.
Well yeah, except that it is kind of a big grip for only holding 13 rounds.
Well yeah, except that the hammer bites a ton of people.
Yeah except for those little items, it is perfect.
"I submit the BHP is the ultimate all around handgun."
Well yeah, except for that trigger that usually needs a lot of work, and never does get real good.
Well yeah, except for that stupid magazine safety that needs to be removed.
Well yeah, except that it is kind of a big grip for only holding 13 rounds.
Well yeah, except that the hammer bites a ton of people.
Yeah except for those little items, it is perfect.
Hawk
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Egg - thanks for reminding me:
Inadvertantly omitted from noob range report: no hammer bite. It looked like it would, but it didn't. 'Course the "Practical" does have that commander-looking hammer.
Inadvertantly omitted from noob range report: no hammer bite. It looked like it would, but it didn't. 'Course the "Practical" does have that commander-looking hammer.
Hawk
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Dry firing the thing when new reminded me of all the internet horror stories. Somehow, though, it's smoothing out. So long as the break's clean, I can live with a little weight.
But dang - that hammer spring
Where'd they get that thing - off a set of boxcar trucks? No problem with ignition here, fer sure.
But dang - that hammer spring
Where'd they get that thing - off a set of boxcar trucks? No problem with ignition here, fer sure.
armoredman
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Yep. Looking forward to the CZ SP01 with 18 round mag....Double action, not SA, and great grip ergonomics..... Browning OK, but not much beoynd that, for me.
Ratfink, I have had such serious issues over the years with all sorts of after-market mags for all sorts of weapons, that I am EXTREMELY reluctant to spend money on these kinds of things anymore. I usually stick with factory stuff, or from the OEM manufacturer. I am glad that you are having luck.
And, when comparing and contrasting weapons, I usually think it is fairest to stick with features as they come from the factory. In the case of the BHP, that means 13 rounds. Otherwise we could always make the statement that "(insert name of cheap/bad weapon here) is the best gun ever, because after I sent it to (insert name a famous gunsmith here) and spent (insert ridiculous amount of money here) it works fabulously!"
nero45acp
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Under the heading: "If you can't beat them, join them"; I ordered a couple of FN Hi-Powers from CDNN and they should be arriving today.
nero
nero
Ya know, I'm gettin' a little tired of all the "9mm won't stop a cockroach, might as well flip 'em the bird as whack 'em with a 9mm, 9mm just ticks 'em off" etc.
Since some poeple have recorded failures to stop with 12 guage slugs, I submit that all this 9mm bashing is just that, bashing.
If you don't think a 115 grain 9mm+P will do the job, take two to the chest and call me in the morning!!
So there!!
Besides, my box stock BHP will keep all 14 rounds in a 14" pizza box at 100(yup, one hundred)yards. Try that with a .45!
Since some poeple have recorded failures to stop with 12 guage slugs, I submit that all this 9mm bashing is just that, bashing.
If you don't think a 115 grain 9mm+P will do the job, take two to the chest and call me in the morning!!
So there!!
Besides, my box stock BHP will keep all 14 rounds in a 14" pizza box at 100(yup, one hundred)yards. Try that with a .45!
Wildalaska
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Likely? Ive been carrying a gun, legally for almost 30 years and I have yet to fire a shot in anger.....
And you?
Wildandihaveacompact45tooAlaska
denfoote
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Welcome back my friends to thread that never ends!!
I may just pull the little bugger out of the safe and take it to the range this weekend!!
Maybe I'll warm up to it a little more!!
For those just joining us, go back a few pages for an explaination of the above statement!!
I may just pull the little bugger out of the safe and take it to the range this weekend!!
Maybe I'll warm up to it a little more!!
For those just joining us, go back a few pages for an explaination of the above statement!!
armoredman
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Always WA is involved in the threads that go forever.....eh, Blackrazor?
I have carried a gun for over 21 years, and have yet to fire a shot in anger, though I came close twice while doing armored truck work. I submit a properly placed bullet will do the best it can. People survice airline crashes, train wrecks, direct bullet strickes, and many other incredible events. We can just do the best we can with what we have.
I have carried a gun for over 21 years, and have yet to fire a shot in anger, though I came close twice while doing armored truck work. I submit a properly placed bullet will do the best it can. People survice airline crashes, train wrecks, direct bullet strickes, and many other incredible events. We can just do the best we can with what we have.
Marshall
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9mm? That's one cool thing about the hi-power, you can have 14, 16 or 18 tries of 147gr bad boys, if you need.
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