I Submit The Bhp Is The Ultimate All Around Handgun

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BHP vs. Glocks

Well, would first like to say that as for Glock not being battle proven, that is false.

I have good friends in the Australian Army who have carried and used Glock 17s without fail in Cambodia, East Timor, and currently Iraq.

Also, there are a large number of Americans doing personal protection work in Iraq now that are using Glock 17s and Glock 19s. And they have been used in combat situations quite often. Dyncorps and Triple Canopy use Glock 19s and Blackwater use Glock 17s.

I myself carried a Sig 226 in Iraq and was very impressed. Much more reliable than my old Army Berreta 92. Did not care much for that first double action trigger pull though. But it worked and saved my ass on more than one occasion.

As for John Browning's design. Well, never have fired a High Power. But am using now one of his 1908 Hammerless .380 pistols he designed. All I can say is it is a work of art. Smooth action, very reliable, and very accurate. This from a gun with no work on it that was originally made in 1927 and been in southeast asia since then. (the one I have was originally issued to the Shanghai POlice dept in 1927).

Would like to get a BHP in the future and have Yost-Bonitz do some work on it.
 
Sorry Ken, but I lean toward the H & K P7M8 for a 9mm. I carried a High Power for a couple of years as a swat officer and though highly of it at the time. When the P7 came out it just fit my hand too well and the High Power went to second line service if I have to carry 9mm. It's awful hard to beat that old Colt .45 for best honors. Just my worthless (nearly) opinion.
 
I like the old Colt too...but it aint the all around.....

All around implies for everyone....

Regardless you got a Gunsite :)...almost as good as the ones we do

WildniceoneAlaska
 
I like the BHP except for the terrible trigger pull. I cannot hit with these guns because every BHP I've tried that is from the factory (unaltered) has a trigger pull that FEELS at least 9-lbs is is NOT even remotely smooth. Considering that its a single-action only pistol, I think the trigger pull quality is unacceptable.

Now, a BHP with a modified trigger is another story. I tried one that had trigger work done and it is indeed an easy gun to shoot accurately with, and has nice ergonomics.


Overall though, I prefer Sigs. My Sigs all have good or better out-of-the-box triggers, and I think this is one of the reasons I put my shots in the bullseye with my Sigs, and produce shotgun-like patterns with all of the factory-unaltered BHPs I've shot (the exception being the BHP that was custom).
 
I have owned and slept with a HP for the last 40 years, threw Nam, and many other funny places in asia, threw the swamps and deserts of africa, and the slums and alleys of the mid east, never failed me once, never even came close. Wild Alaska speaks the truth, the HP is the best, keep your plastic over designed hollywood weapons, I will take a HP any day.
 
I'm a big fan of CZ's, as both my carry guns are CZs, but there is just something about how the BHP settles into your hand like they were designed for each other. I own a Browning Mk III in .40 and a 9mm FEG PJK-9HP. Today I purchased one of the 9mm FN HiPowers from CDNN for $399. Couldn't resist. :)

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Mike
 
Well I'm in agreement with the original post, I've got a pair of MkIII's in 40 S&W for my carry guns, a 9mm Competition model and an Inglis with shoulder stock. If you want to feel a great Hi Power tirgger shoot one of the Competition models, that's how all Hi Power triggers should be.
 
Even though I prefer the 1911s, I do own a Belgian Hi-Power and will definately agree that other than the pricey Sig 210, it is the best 9x19mm pistol made. I owned lots of other 9mms, from Rugers to Smiths and Berettas and kept one 9mm - the Hi-Power.

Yes, I too found the Hi-Power to be the most accurate, has the best trigger and the slim feel and all-steel construction made it the best 9mm. The CZ-75 was a close second, but loses to the Hi-Power, because of its d/a trigger and is not as finely finished as a Belgian Hi-Power. The grip on the HP is ten times better than other 9mms. Other hicap 9s feel blocky and clunky in the grip...not the HP.

I always thought it was strange how unpopular the Hi-Power was in this country, compared to Berettas, Glocks and other 9mms...its definately the best 9mm in my book!

-Brickboy240

Sidenote: To really see the majic of the HP, one has to shoot one with the mag safety removed. From the factory, the HPs trigger is a total turn off, but with the mag safety out and a little smoothing, theres no better 9mm trigger on ANY pistol.
 
Two and a half decades ago the U.S military was adopting a new 9mm pistol. I was new the service and the big city and needed a self defense pistol that was ammo compatible. I called my father (a gunsmith) and he recommended the GP 35. He knew his stuff (and at 21 I was smart enough to take his advice) I have never regretted the advice or the decision. I have other guns and other 9mm’s but they are just not the same.
 
I took that CGP to Gunsite last October. They were surprised to see it as they said they are pretty scarce. It ran 5 days with out a single problem. The dehorn job is great as this is the first time I completed a week long school without band aids. I had a little explaining to do when Kim noticed a stainless .45 in place of the P7. Thanks for finding it for me. The Colt Commander you folks fixed up for me just before Christmas is the bomb. Nice and smooth and the sights are perfect. I hope the move went alright. I should be up your way in March and I will stop by to check out the new digs.
 
Let's just say, for the purposes of arguement, that somebody stumbled across this ancient thread from October and got intrigued enough to actually buy one today. Specifically, a 2-tone thing stamped "made in Belgium, assembled in Portugal" (?!?!) with fixed sights, a slide finish that looks 'xactly like black Roguard, and a silvery sort of frame. A trigger that looks for all the world like double action but isn't and does strange things with the magazine removed (like, say, go inert).

Do military 15 round mags work okie-dokie, or does one have to pony up for mags actually stamped "Browning".

This forum is gonna kill me.
 
Sounds like a lot of the guys really like them on this post. I had 2 of them in the 80's....a blued model and a satin-nickel plated model. Both were beautiful guns but neither would handle hollow points reliably. My first critereon for any gun is RELIABILITY and the HP's just did not work for me. I traded them and went back to my 1911's and Sigs. :cool:
 
I have a 1994 made Silver Chrome BHP with adjustable sights and the factory Pachmyer grips. Its accurate, and reliable with all types of ammo, including hollow points. I've never had a failure in this pistol in the 11 years I've owned it. I believe the Mark III version of the BHP fixed the issues with hollow point ammo.
 
I have a Mint "T" series made in 67 that is without a doubt one of the best looking best shoothing guns I have ever owned.
 
I don't like 1911s at all. The take downs for them to me are awful. I don't have the strength to deal with the guide plug springs, arthritis.

I prefer the BHP
 
Let's just say, for the purposes of arguement, that somebody stumbled across this ancient thread from October and got intrigued enough to actually buy one today. Specifically, a 2-tone thing stamped "made in Belgium, assembled in Portugal" (?!?!) with fixed sights, a slide finish that looks 'xactly like black Roguard, and a silvery sort of frame. A trigger that looks for all the world like double action but isn't and does strange things with the magazine removed (like, say, go inert).
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Then the guy in this hypothetical ;) got a nice BHP Practical. Any good mags would work. The KRD mags (15 and 17 round) are good, but mec-gar mags are better, and FN/Browning mags are best. But, naturally, the price goes up respectively. My advice would be to get 3 or 4 of the Browning ones and get some KRD ones for range use.



Congratulations, hypothetically!
Wes
 
IMHO SIG 226 if I could only have 1. Second would be a G17. Third would be a quality 1911. That said, my favorite ccw is my Series 1 Kimber Ultra Carry.
 
The highpower is my favorite nine. The CZ and Sig are close behind. I still prefer a 1911. The novak HP I have is a really nice carry option.

David
 
Well I have three 9's all of which have been described above but here is my list in order of preference:

CZ85 - everything the P-35 is with double action trigger and doesn't gag if I put anything other than round nose throught it. If I ever get in a peeing fight without a rilfe, this is the 9MM for me.

1911 Trojan - 9MM - No recoil, super accurate, well made, fit and finish excellent and swallows everything. Limted to 8+1. No good if Antila the Hun arrives at my front door but otherwise it's good to go. ps No gun matches the trigger pull of a 1911...period!

Browing Hi-Power T Series - Pretiest gun of the bunch. Highest round capacity and military mags work fine. Sights are worse than my Norinco and that is saying something. Trigger pull compares to CZ but is SINGLE ACTION. Light weight is nice. Our Inglis version hasn't been made since 1945 and they are still going strong with our Canadian Army - that said you have to remember our army brings new meaning to the term "army of one"! :D
 
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I would not buy any 9mm pistol other than a Browning Hi-Power except for collecting purposes. Like the 1911, it was designed and built correct the first time around.
 
Quote: "I Submit The Bhp Is The Ultimate All Around Handgun".

Well, I suppose so - if your ideal ultimate all around handgun is big, heavy, SA auto operation and shoots only 9MM 115 grain FMJ rounds.

I'd submit that the S&W 642 .38Spl+P 5 shot snubby revolver is the ultimate all around handgun. Small, light, snag free design from concealment, high quality yet realitivly inexpensive, acceptably accurate within 95% of real world defensive ranges, reliable with any round that will fit in the chambers, launches an adequately powerful round, safe to carry & handle and easy to operate under stress.
 
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