I think I might be in deep water…. Need advice.

[kokogirl]

Okay, I met this guy and I like him a lot, plus we are both huge gun fanatics and believe in the same principles.

However, I am troubled by a few things:

1. He is very secretive… especially about his career and very short military service.
2. He doesn’t seem to know much about the military even though he supposedly served.
3. He has lied to me about his age, occupation, and education. (he doesn’t know that I know this… thank you background checks)

Long story short…
I am catching hints from him that he wants me to buy him an AR as a gift. I don’t know if he just wants the rifle or if he is ‘unable’ to legally buy one himself. Put 2 and 2 together, I’m wondering if he was dishonorably discharged or maybe a felon… either/or…you can’t buy one.

After writing this I can tell I need to get rid of him. I guess I needed to see it in text form.


My questions:

1. How can I find out if someone has been DIShonorably discharged???

2. ***hypothetical***
If I were to purchase a rifle for him, and he was completely legal to own one… would it be considered a straw purchase?

 

[JCF]

1. He is very secretive… especially about his career and very short military service.
2. He doesn’t seem to know much about the military even though he supposedly served.
3. He has lied to me about his age, occupation, and education. (he doesn’t know that I know this… thank you background checks)

Walk kiddo.

 

[makarova]

Answered

1. Don't know
2. Yup

 

[SoCalShooter]

Dude you need to immediately distance yourself. You could check at your local PD if you want to take it that far. However why the HELL would you purchase an AR for someone as a gift, especially with these circumstances. I would say NO.

 

[Outlaws]

1. How can I find out if someone has been DIShonorably discharged???

I am not one for selling out my fellow man, but if you really think he is trouble, mention the phrase DD214 and see it means anything to him.

There are lots of fake military people.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/bldd214.htm

 

[kfranz]

1. How can I find out if someone has been DIShonorably discharged???

Who cares. He's a liar. Run, don't walk, away. Now. Not a week from now, or when you think "he'll take it better." Now.

 

[The Cavalry]

Point #3 above makes the rest moot, in my humble opinion. Liars will lie about lying.

Kick him to the curb. If you're too polite to do it, just start talking about marriage and your biological clock ticking...freaks us guys out completely.

 

[mrtgbnkr]

Run.

And IIRC, even if he were otherwise legal, what you are describing would be a straw purchase.

 

[Blue4]

Run, don't walk to the nearest exit!

 

[joab]

1. He is very secretive… especially about his career and very short military service.

Could have been many many reasons that his stay was short without being dishonorable. It could simply mean that he was not cut out for service and was discharged during basic, a drug or alcohol problem, medical discharge or hardship

2. He doesn’t seem to know much about the military even though he supposedly served.

That's no worse than the guys that know everything about the army after serving in a REMF unit.
I served as a tugboat mechanic and knew next to nothing about the army in general, but I did have the lingo down

3. He has lied to me about his age, occupation, and education. (he doesn’t know that I know this… thank you background checks)

Depending on your age group and the lies that is anywhere from a typical loser move to something very serious.

I would not buy a gun for anyone that I did not witness buying a gun before and knew that they were capable of still doing so.

I would certainly have to know someone very well before I gave them a $1000 gift of anything.

And IIRC, even if he were otherwise legal, what you are describing would be a straw purchase.

I don't want to steer this too far off topic, but that in no way is a straw purchase.
You can research this fully by actually reading that federal form you fill and sign out under penalty of law when you buy any firearm

 

[ArmedBear]

You ARE in deep water.

Get out!!!

 

[hirundo82]

I think you need to trust your instincts that something is not right and get rid of him.

That said, if you were to buy him an AR as a gift, that is fine under federal law as long as you do not suspect he is prohibited from owning firearms for some reason. It becomes a straw purcahse if he gives you money and asks you to buy a gun for him.

 

[Milkmaster]

Though I wouldn't spend the time on the jerk if I were you, why can't you go to a gun store and run his info for a potential purchase? If you are that close to him, surely you can come up with enough info to run his background check. Even better.... Ask him to accompany you to have a background check done in case you want to get him a 'lil something for his birthday!

 

[geekWithA.45]

3. He has lied to me about his age, occupation, and education.

He has lied to you about the fundamentals of his identity.

Things like "should I buy him a gun?" are really the last things you should be worried about.

After writing this I can tell I need to get rid of him. I guess I needed to see it in text form.

You have arrived at the correct conclusion.

Now act on it.

 

[Grey54956]

Drop him like a sack of potatoes. Get out now.

Relationships are based on many things, but honesty and trust are very significant. If he isn't honest with you, you can't trust him. The foundation is undermined from the start, and you can't really build on it.

Like I say, get out now.

 

[skinnyguy]

you state that he lied to you about his education? how deep does the lie go? what i mean is this; did he say he went to college, but you found out he only graduated high school? or did he not even graduate high school and get his GED? or NOT get the ged?

the reason i'm asking - college is required for officers in the military - high school diploma or GED is required to enlist at any level.

if you find very blaring differences in what he told you vs. what is required, he knows nothing of the military and his DD214 most likely does not exist. i'm thinking he's an internet serviceman, never had a uniform on, but knows all the "neat stuff" about the military 'cuz he's studied up on every site he can find.

sorry to say this to you, LEAVE - SOON!!!!!! and don't let the door hit you in the...........

heel.... What did you think i was gonna say??????

 

[zoom6zoom]

Run, don't walk. And leave no forwarding address.

 

[musher]

I'm with the 'leave now, not later' group, but I would point out that the purchase you describe is NOT a straw purchase.

It is perfectly legal to purchase a firearm for someone who lives in the same state as you, as a gift.

...as long as you don't have any reason to suspect that they are ineligible to purchase a firearm on their own.

 

[jpk1md]

There is a big difference between being private and outright lying.....lying is a slippery slope....folks lie to cover up lies.....

Go with your gut feeling.

 

[Erebus]

Okay, I met this guy and I like him a lot,

Don't let it cloud your judgement

plus we are both huge gun fanatics and believe in the same principles.

Your point #3 doesn't agree.

Points 1 & 3 are very bad. 3 is almost scary.

2 could be a result of short service or just plain being an idiot. Lots of people think participation in something makes one an expert. But a drivers license doesn't make you an automotive engineer.

From what I see here if I were you I would never have anything to do with him acquiring a firearm without some serious answers. If you think he may be on the up & up or want to be sure before you walk ask straight forward questions. If he can't/won't answer them jet. Plenty of fish in the sea don't settle for a bottom feeder.

 

[jamz]

Are you positive you know his real name?


Personally, I'd start looking at his residential history... and any "disappearances" during that time. That is of course if I wasn't hightailing it to the nearest exit.

Serial killers are supposed to be *very* charming.

 

[koja48]

Swim immediately to shallow water, then run away. Lying is NOT a foundation of any relationship.

 

[gezzer]

Dump him, we all have sea stories but he is a pretender..

Sea stories always start with this is the F%^$!H truth man. Take with a grain of salt it is true but heavily embellished.

 

[SamTuckerMTNMAN]

the more he knows about you the more dangerous he is...cut your losses.


ST

 

[mrelijahgardner]

I'm having a hard time with all of this .

How would they hint they wanted you to buy them an AR as a present. All legality aside if I didn't know someone well enough to know who they really are I'd never consider buying them a gun.