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IDPA gun choice

Discussion in 'Competition Shooting' started by cwsample, Oct 20, 2013.

  1. 9mmepiphany

    9mmepiphany Moderator

    Dec 27, 2002
    northern california
    If you magazine is limited to less than Division capacity (11 in SSP/ESP; 9 in CDP) you'll need to load the chamber before inserting a full magazine. This can be done by inserting a magazine loaded with one round, chambering that round and than reloading with a full magazine to reach full capacity...this is commonly referred to as a Barney Load.
  2. RussellC

    RussellC Participating Member

    May 26, 2013
    Thanks...you got to love that term! Barney Load.

    Thanks again for your patience

  3. Dr.Rob

    Dr.Rob Moderator Staff Member

    Dec 23, 2002
    Centennial, CO
    I think the Barney bullet is a silly rule.

    IDPA has gotten very structured and rules happy.. and while BARELY allowing 6 shot revolvers while more or less forcing CDP shooters to use an 8 shot magazine.

    There really should be a 'carry gun' division. You deal with whatever handicap your pistol or revolver brings to the party as long as your holster is approved. Good place for all the Kahr, LCP, P7, whatever less than 10rd, yet NOT a 45 shooters to compete.

    Some clubs will let you shoot "not for score". Well, make sure they score you just leave you OUT of the divisions.
  4. mgmorden

    mgmorden Senior Member

    May 22, 2009
    Charleston, South Carolina
    He had the Serpa with the index finger release in the video.

    He basically was blaming his ND on the fact that he had been practicing with the 5.11 earlier that day, and when he tried to "release" the gun from the Serpa he instead clicked off his safety.

    Still doesn't explain why he pulled his index finger inward when the gun hadn't cleared the holster.

    FWIW, I do consider the Serpas worthy of a bit of caution, but I used one with my P95 for my first USPSA match and it was fine. Just be careful.

    As to your P6, it should be mostly fine. Maximum round count on IDPA is 18 rounds per stage. Assuming you barney up, you'll only be at a disadvantage on stages with rounds counts between 9 and 11 (one reload for 10-round guys - two for you) and between 17 and 18 (two reloads for them and three for you).

    I'd use it for a while and decide if you like it. If you DO, then I'd probably buy a new gun after a while, but there's no since in buying a new one until you're confident that you'll continue with the sport.
  5. Rushthezeppelin

    Rushthezeppelin Member

    Sep 19, 2013
    Hutto, TX
    If you must get another gun I second the CZ75 recommendation. I'm actually using a SAR B6P which is a polymer framed turkish made CZ clone. It has done great for me at 2 matches so far and shoots really freaking accurate. She just got over 1000 down the pipe last weekend and only that day finally had its first malfunctions which where due to my reloads and definitely not the gun.

    I'm probably going to invest in a metal frame CZ or clone sometime soon though as they balance better in the hand especially with a mag close to empty. Regardless though the general design fits my hand like a glove and makes indexing the gun properly a no brainer.

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