If I owned Colt, redux

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Or redeaux, or however the heck you spell that. Meaning, I posted a thread about this before, but have given it some thought.

Many here lament the fact that Colt just can't get its act together. I don't know the why or the how, but they just can't keep steady production, they don't advertise, and they don't innovate.

It doesn't have to be like this. So here's what would happen if, through some strange series of events, your humble Nightcrawler became the sole owner and CEO of Colt's Patent Firearms.

First of all, I would sell off Colt Defense. They're basically separate companies anyway, and I'd leave Colt Defense to focus on M4s and stuff. I'd be happy to let that DoD contracting mess be someone else's friggin' problem so I could focus on handgun production, and the sale (if possible...more like a divorce) should leave me with plenty of capital to get my handguns rolling again.

I'm not going to try anything crazy off the bat. No re-introducing models that have been discontinued for decades and for which the machinery and tooling may or may not be servicable. I'd focus, initially, on getting back in the game.

(Dealing with Colt's labor problems...I have no idea. Let's pretend that isn't an issue.)

First step: Ad blitz. Full page ads in the more reputable magazines, with a "Colt is back!" message. "Colt, the modern classic!" Our theme would be guns done "the old-fashioned way", and classic guns with modern features.

Initial production would focus on the Series 80 Government Model. Blue, Stainless, .45ACP (with limited numbers in .38 Super), Commander models also. The Commanders would come in .45ACP and 9mm initially. 9mm full-sized Gov't Models would be a limited production item (to test the market).

The Series 70 guns would be "semi-custom", more of limited production. The most attention would go into these when they were built, making them worth the higher price tag. The basic Series 70 would be like the Government Model. For shooters wanting more, there'd be the Series 70 Enhanced, (Which I'd dub the Mark V). This would feature an ambi extended safety, high-ride beavertail grip safety, commander hammer, Novak sights, etc. NO FRONT SERRATIONS. (Not on my guns, anyway. You could order them from the custom shop if you really wanted them.)

All guns, regardless of finish, would have stainless steel barrels. I would do my very best to avoid having to resort to MIM internals.

The Colt Gold Cup would be reintroduced later on. Fully adjustable sights, match quality. Higher cost again, but it'd be a tack driver.

To REALLY stick it to Springfield and Kimber, NC Colt would introduce the Mark V (Series 70) Special Combat model. A Series 70 enhanced with a picatinny rail machined into the frame, to compete with similar models from Kimber, Springfield, and RRA. This model would have the option of low profile fixed sights or taller, adjustable models. The tall sights would be in conjunction with an extended and threaded barrel, for use with a suppressor. Night sights would be standard on this model.

Now, as for Colt's Revolvers. This requires more thought.

For Colt's Single Actions, I'd try to work a deal with US Firearms. I mean, heck, for awhile they were making their guns in Colt's old factory anyway. USFA would have the license to produce Colt-marked Single Action Army type revolvers. It'd be a profit sharing agreement that'd work well for everyone, I think. USFA/Colt could take a piece of the Cowboy Action market, I think. USFA could, of course, continue to produce revolvers with its own markings, but the Colt-Marked models would likely turn a better profit.

The double action revolvers would be another matter. For the time being, the only DA revolver that'd return to standard production would be the Ananconda. 4" and 6", with limited runs in 5", it'd be available in .44 Magnum and .45 Colt initially.

The Python would be a custom shop affair. I'd call my version the Python Classic. Compared to my other guns, only a few of these would be produced per year, and they'd be a pricey item. But for that money you'd get a sublimely constructed, hand-fitted revolver. Stainless steel would be standard, with Colt's Classic Glossy Blue as an at-cost option. I'd do my best of have my gunsmiths replicate the amazing deep blue finishes on the Pythons of yesteryear. 4" and 6" barrel lengths standard, with 2.5" done on occasion.

Later on, I'd see about re-introducing the King Cobra, since it's essentially Anaconda lockwork anyway.

The real neat thing would be NC Colt's Custom Shop. Upon providing FFL shipping info, you could order direct, or have your dealer order for you. Want a stock Series 80 Gov't Model with an ambi safety, medallion grips, and night sights? No problem! It'll cost more, and it'll take longer, but you'll get it. Want a Python Classic with a 3" barrel? Sure! We'd also do limited runs of super-nice custom guns in various configurations. Hell, we'd even do custom inscriptions on special order guns, just like Colt did way back in the old days.

Now, down the road, once I've started to bring in money and the business front has stablized, I'd see about introducing some new models.

Specifically, (and this would take some tooling up), I'd try to reintroduce an updated, modernized, but classic looking 1903. Originally, this Browning designed pistol was available in .38ACP and .32ACP. My version would be in 9x19mm. The new version would be called the Colt Pocket Hammerless model of 2007. It'd be updated with an alloy frame for light weight (heck, the original steel version weighed only 24 ounces!), a more ergonomic ambi safety, and improved, low snag, high-viz sights. If possible, the magazine release would be moved from the heel to the current preferred location.

The rollmark on the right side of the slide would read, "Colt Automatic". Underneath that would be "Pocket Hammerless Model, Caliber 9mm".

This gun would be all about no-snag draws and ease of use. Everything on it would be low profile and the grips would be thin walnut.

Well. That's all I've got for right now. What do you guys think? Would you buy any of the models I've mentioned?
 
I like the pocket hammerless idea... very snazzy. You need to spend some R&D money eventually. Pocket guns are the current trend. Get the Gov't model .380 back in the market in the meantime. (Or pay a licensing fee to Kahr for the pocket nine)

The 'limited custom' 1911 market is already saturated... and given the way firearms are actually sold to the public (through a wholesaler) that might not be practical. More of a 'custom shop' streamlining process?

Without re-tooling the King Cobra SF VI and Magnum Carry could be back in a hurry. .357 wheelguns are the most popular caliber, keep the Python as a custom.

You should own the cowboy market. If the Italians can build a clone for a third of the price then your $1200 model should be three times as nice. The 'marketing agreement' with USFA is an interesting idea, and one that USFA would potentially fair better in... what you are really suggesting is USFA take over Colt.

Sort of like USRAC took over Winchester.
 
Big mistake to leave out the Detective Special II and the Magnum Carry. Both are updated modern design and would go well with the rise in CCWs today.
 
To the very best of my knowledge, the Detective Special hasn't been produced for a very long time.

The question then is, does Colt even have the tooling and machinery to make these guns anymore?

It's a roughly between J and K frame sized gun in .38 Special, right, but a six-shot? Is it too small to accomodate +P ammo (even assuming modern metallurgy)?

And, if anyone balks at the idea of having Colt license produce other designs, it's hardly anything new. The 1903 was licensed from FN, for example.

But, having other companies produce Colt-marked guns? Why not? If Colt engineers do QC and inspection, and give input to the process, what's there to lose? In anycase I'm sure USFA would be thrilled with my proposal and the idea of being able to produce Peacemakers and Lightning rifles with the rampant pony on the side.
 
To the very best of my knowledge, the Detective Special hasn't been produced for a very long time.

The question then is, does Colt even have the tooling and machinery to make these guns anymore?
The DSII is a redesigned Dectective Special. The action was modified to make it less labor intensive like that of the MkIII and MkV series. Production stopped when Colt stopped producing it's double action revolvers in 1998 or 99. The Magnum Carry is built on the same frame using the same action as the DSII.
 
If I had clout at Colt ..

Seein' that ole' Sam Colt is my multiple-great-grandpap,
maybe they will bring me on board ..
To the Colt BOD : Hook me up, please. :)

I'd do a commander slide on an officer frame in multiple calibers, a classic styled pocket 9 - ala "Nighcrawler",
A modern pocket 9 to spank all the other current competition, A modern SubCompact .40 to hose the Glock 27, H&K P2000SK, Springer XD, etc
Oh, and a modern 10mm for tactical or competition use.
Not sure on rifles ..

edit: fogot to add .22 pistol
 
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I'd reintroduce the Python and the Detective Special. I'd offer a line of
non-Series 80 1911s built to original specs...materials and all...if only on a limited basis per year per model. "Colt Classic, A Return to the Basics" would be the advertising banner and the name of the line...without roll-marking it on the guns, thank you. A simple "CC" in the serial prefix will do. Betcha they'd sell like ice water in hades at 1,000-1200 bucks a copy. 1911 and 1911A1 pattern...including the Commander/Combat Commander Classic...and I'd insist on shipping two magazines with each gun, and advertise it as such to prevent distributor "redistribution".
 
i would definitely reintroduce the Detective Special, my absolute favorite colt.

looking at used prices on Colt double action revolvers, they would all sell well if reintroduced.

i'd also like to see the Cobra, Magnum Carry, Trooper/Lawman, and Python.
 
I'd have Colt's bring back the Python and the Mustang.

I'd fund and publish destructive strength tests on all MIM parts used to
lay to rest 90% of the BS that surrounds them ---and to find out what
parts ought NEVER to be MIM-ed.

I'd make sure Colt's had official online representation visiting, contributing to,
and participating in the major gun boards.
 
Move all 1911's to Series 70, all with rear cocking serrations only, nightsights as standard, single side extended safety, modest beavertail with no fancy bumps, standard plug and spring for recoil, bevel the sharp edges, offer it in matt stainless, some polymolyteflo finish and a polish blue in .45 and 10mm. Add ambi safety, magwells as factory options. Make 'em look pretty, not trendy. Don't use the words "tactical", "professional" or "forces" anywhere. At all. Sell them starting at $749.99. Don't buy a marginal poly framed pistol that's as ugly as sin and pretend that you thought of it.
 
Just so y'all know... this thread was forwarded to Colt's Executive Director of Manufacturing... they're looking, at least...
 
Bring back a couple of their classic DA revolvers, or modern equivelents, and at reasonable prices.

Bring out some variety- to compete in the current market they need some DA/SA pistols and a polymer wouldn't hurt. I understand they are a bit cash strapped right now so it may take a little while to bring one out from scratch. Buying a slight redesign of a current model from another maker (like the CZ/Colt Z40 which went nowhere with Colt and became the CZ 40B) or buying out a good design from a small/struggling maker (like the Springfield XD, formerly HS 2000) would be a way to get something decent out relatively quickly and comparatively cheaply.

Bring out a "budget" line of current products. One of the problems with the current line is that they are so expensive they have trouble being competitive. They should bring out a 2nd tier that is still high quality. Maybe 1911s priced and equiped like the SA Loaded or Kimber Custom models, using some MIM if needed. That way you can still have the current high end products for those with the money, yet still have something more people could buy.
 
What Tuner said.

Sorta a "back-to-basics" move.

I'd "redux" my Colt .45 stock real quick.
 
I'm a Colt snob... I admit it. If they bring back some of the discontinued models I'd likely buy a few more.
 
I hope they listen! I would like to have more Colt's in my "stable", but they are wicked hard to find and usually overpriced for what they are.

I think the Defense portion has already been sold off.
 
I would like to see a Colt Diamondback .22 in stainless steel, with an auxilary .22 magnum cylinder. I would buy one!:)
 
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