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Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Michael Tinker Pearce, Dec 3, 2018.

  1. Michael Tinker Pearce

    Michael Tinker Pearce Member

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    The grip on my cut-down Taurus 85 worked well; though tiny it allowed me to control the gen very well, even with +P loads. But it has an Achilles Heel- it is difficult to deploy the gun quickly from the holster. It took a bit of working around to get my hand properly positioned. It was time for a change...
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    I came up with this Bocote wood grip as an alternative. I wanted something easy and intuitive to grab, and after some fussing around I arrived at this shape. It looks weird as hell but it works- it's very easy to get a proper hold on the gun, and it points naturally.
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    The question is, 'How is it to shoot?' As it turns out- it's good. I can maintain a secure grip, no shifting between shots so follow up shots come quickly and accurately. If it's weird and it works...
    Yeah, OK. It's still weird.
    PS- apparently there is a similar grip for a full-sized J-frame. It's also weird.
     
  2. Eddietruett

    Eddietruett Member

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    Ok, I'll bite. Why? Easier to conceal? I would think it would be just about as easy to conceal with a grip that allowed you more control. Maybe its better than it looks, but from appearance it does not look like it would be easy to control with +P type rounds in a rapid fire type situation. I forget which brand, but there is a rubber grip out there that looks very similar to what you have. Sort of a wedge looking grip. I had to try one. Shooting Single Action, it was fairly good, but drawing and shooting rapid fire I never felt like I was fully in control of the gun. In case of that type situation (and hopefully I'll never know) I want to feel like I'm in total control of my gun. Not knocking what you have come up with by any means, if it works for you that's great but it appears just too small
     
  3. Bones741

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    MTP....what will he think of next?!

    Fine work as usual, hats off to you sir !

    Now If the holster is tough with your little masterpieces I offer another concept .You could rig up one of these. Jump to 55 seconds to get to my point if you don't want to watch the whole thing.



    I've kinda wondered how those funky angled ergo grips work on revolvers. But hey if it works it works.
     
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  4. Michael Tinker Pearce

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    No worries- it doesn't look as if it ought to work!

    The whole point of this project was to see how small I could make a J-frame size revolver without compromising function. The original grip achieved that nicely; quite controllable even with +P ammo. The video shows me (using the original grip shown above) firing SAAMI max 125gr. HPs. +P was just as controllable, but not as pleasant.


    The new grip looks less secure, but it forces my grip very high on the gun, which aids both retention and control. I had no trouble controlling the gun in rapid-fire with Buffalo Bore short-barrel 158gr. LSWCHPs. While these cartridges are standard pressure they throw the 158gr. bullet faster than +P offerings from other companies. Next time we're at the range I'll get video of shooting with this grip.
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    You can't really tell from the picture but I actually have all three fingers on the grip- though the pinky is only partially on.
     
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  5. Eddietruett

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    If it works, then my hats off to you! Back in the mid to late 70's I went through a phase trying to create better target grips. My late uncle was a cabinet maker and he made a jig where he count rout out blanks to fit a Smith K frame. My problem was I was too young and impatient to really give it a fair trial. I came up with several pretty good designs but never could quite come up with something better than the grip makers were making. Today, with all the selections out there, making a set of target grips by hand would be a time consuming task that can be completed in minutes using all the computer design hardware.
     
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  6. Michael Tinker Pearce

    Michael Tinker Pearce Member

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    Yep- basically I make them by hand because I enjoy it- and occasionally because no one makes grips for the gun I want them on.
     
  7. entropy

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    You talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me?

    Looks kinda familiar, Michael;

    https://www.midwayusa.com/product/122082/ergo-delta-grip-s-and-w-j-frame-overmolded-rubber-black

    Yours looks a lot nicer.:)
     
  8. Michael Tinker Pearce

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    It's also a lot smaller. This is the grip I mentioned in the original post. Put it on an LCR and you have... The Bat Gun!

    Robin: The Joker is getting away! Use the Bat Gun!
    Batman throws gun
    Robin facepalms
     
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    Nice!
    It seems for it to be proportional, the barrel needs trimmed another 1/4 - 3/8" .....:D
     
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  10. bannockburn

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    I tried something similar to the overall shape as yours (but no where near the size), with an old Pachmayr Gripper grip for a S&W J frame. The original grip was just too large so I tried to make it a bit smaller and more ergonomic. Feels kind of weird at first but it fits my smaller size hand pretty well.

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    Those do look odd, but if they work that's great.

    Gorgeous wood.
     
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  12. Michael Tinker Pearce

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    Had Linda take some video of me shooting this afternoon. These are not light loads, BTW- they are maximim listed loads for a 140gr jacketed bullet.
     
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    How did you accommodate the mainspring when you cut the frame down? Picture without the grip would be great.
     
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  14. Michael Tinker Pearce

    Michael Tinker Pearce Member

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    I left just enough room for it.
     
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    When I first looked at it I thought that would be like trying to shoot a wet bar of soap, but after I studied the finger grooves and palm placement for a bit that looks like it would work really well.
     
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  16. Kookla

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    Are you able to get a good purchase on it with your ring finger? Looks like you left just enough to get a good hold from what I can tell. Regardless, looks sweet!
     
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  17. Michael Tinker Pearce

    Michael Tinker Pearce Member

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    Yes, the grip is surprisingly secure. With the original shorty grip I realized I was gripping it from the bottom with my ring-finger, so this grip capitalizes on that.
     
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