If this old House could talk

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I'd want it to tell me where else there are guns hidden. My house is old, built in the later 1800's by my great, great, great, great, grandfather (probably an extra great in there) One of the first houses in the town. It's been a mixed blessing for me while I was growing up, couldn't do certain things because the way the house was wired, floor couldn't support certain other things I wanted, but it never failed me in the department of history, something I've enjoyed and been avid in since I was 6 years old. It was always an adventure going into the attic, old steamer trunks with photo's and papers from the 1920's, boxes with land deeds, a scrap book complete with newspaper and telegrams from WWII. Heck in one box I found a blue print for a fire hydrant, why on earth that was in there I have to find out.

I didn't get into shooting until relatively late in my life. I'd learned a little when I was 11 but did nothing really until late in high school when I bought a Yugo Mauser. Tried to start a shooting club as an extra curricular in high school but that didn't go over well. After I got tha mauser the bug really got ahold of me, there were a few old guns in the house so I figured I'd take them, work on them some and see what I could do with them. An Old J Stevens single shot 12 guage with plastic stock was my first project. Next one I had learned a little beforehand and knew enough not to touch it was an 1884 Springfield Trapdoor that has quite alot of family history behind it.

I have explored this house from top to bottom, found a magazine announcing John Bonhams death, a Beatles white album that was placed behind sheetrock in the rafters, but today I was surprised yet again. There is a small dividing wall between my dining room and kitchen, probably 2 feet past the end of the wall and 5 inches wide. Stupid me I put a pretty big hole in it while moving some furniture around. Got some new sheetrock and paint, cut the old sheetrock out was surprised to find myself staring at a very dusty, very old looking canvas sack. Undid the drawstring top and removed something wrapped in an old wax type paper, when I opened it I found an old rifle that I recognized from some very old photographs. My grandmother grew up on a farm in up-state New York, some of her old photo's showed her smiling with a rifle, holding a rabbit with said rifle, that kind of thing. Kind of wondered what happened to it but didn't think much of it. Protrusion at the front of the stock is the same, barrel is the same length.

Rifle is a Winchester Model 04a .22 short long and long rifle. Stock has some scratches and dents but the metal is in good condition, all the pieces are there, bolt cycles smoothly, firing mechanism looks intact. Overall, in excellent shape considering it was in a wall for who knows how long.

Have to get the digital camera tomorrow so I can get a target picture into the Marlin 336 thread, I'll update this post tomorrow with some pictures of this as well.

I honestly wonder if this house is hiding any more secrets and if it is, when they will decide to reveal themselves to me.
 
Very cool story, a free gun is always good but something like that and the history involved is really exciting. By all means post some pics when you can. Congratulations.
 
1884 Springfield Trapdoor that has quite alot of family history behind it.

Lucky dog! Need a roomate ( bringng the wife is optional ;):neener:), or help remodeling? Will work for guns!

I would LOVE to have an old family house like that to work on, live in, explore, etc.The guns just make a great thing even better.Very cool.
 
First thing that comes to my mind is thinking about why the gun was hidden away in the first place? Keep it away from kids? Protect it from theft?
waiting out the zombies or boogie man?
Then the second thing to pop into my mind is that whatever reason causes a person to stash a gun in a wall would also cause a person to hide several other guns as well!
Let the hammers fly!
 
I have a 110 year old house. But all the walls are block, and the interior walls don't seem to have any problems from any modification.
I've found some valentines from the 1030's burried in the vermiculite insulation in the attic, but haven't dug around in there much. Put down a plywood floor so it's al covered. maybe I'll pull them up and dig through this summer. Also know that the guy ran a shoe shop out of the little garage behind my house. It had a 9 foot long by 3 foot tall hand painted sign on the roof. The old lady that sold the house to me had a picture of it. I tore apart a crappy old workbench and found the entire sign intact, and in perfect condition like it was painted yesterday. Cool..... but no gun.
There is a huge chunk of attic in my son's room that is closed off. The area is roughly 14 foot by 6 foot, and would have ben a walk in attic in the eave of my roof. You would go to the bedrooms (attic area) and then open doors in the wall to get to the side attics. It's very clear that there used to be a door there. I re-plastered the area to smooth it out last year. Really want to see if anything's in there, but don't want to open it up. Maybe I will and i'll put a floor in it too and have more storage. I don't know. But if there's anything else cool hiding in my house, it's in there.
 
My BIL bought an old farm with a log home on it. Actually the home was connected to another log building by way of an enclosed dog trot of sorts.
After buying the farm, he was told a story of an old man that lived there going into the local town and shooting the lights out. ( not sure of the reasons)
He then returned to the farm and supposedly hid the revolvers, (of which there were supposed to be two) in the home somewhere.

Of course you never really believe things like that when you hear them and think of them as just another story.
A couple of years go by and BIL decides to sell the smaller log building. What does he find when going through the old place? A revolver hidden in one of the walls.
I only saw it once, but it was in pretty bad shape from rust and corrosion. The only thing I can remember for certain about it was the fact that it was a breakdown model that had a top strap that latched over an ear on top of the gun much like an old suitcase lock used to work.

I need to ask him to show it to me again some time so that I can look at it a little closer.
He never found the second one, if there even was a second one to begin with. But he has mentioned selling the logs from the main home. Who knows what else he may run onto....
 
The only question I have about this story is "sheetrock". Sheetrock didn't exist in the 1800's. The walls would have been lath and plaster.

Something doesn't add up..........
 
My mom and her sister were playing in the attic of their aunt's house on W 116th St. in Cleveland in the late '20s, early '30s. They were playing with two small gold coins, and dropped them thru the boards on the attic floor. Maybe they're still there.

Down the street from me, a couple bought a house from an elderly man. A couple of years later they were remodeling and working around the fireplace. They had been told the fireplace didn't work, so they were going to get it fixed. They reached up inside by the damper and pulled out an envelope with $30,000 cash in it. What was the first thing they did? Called the cops. BIG MISTAKE! Everyone knew about their windfall, so every begger and thief in town came around, not to mention the ERS.
 
As to the "sheetrock" questions, I had the impression in reading the OP that this wall was added later, thus resulting in the rifle ending up where it did. Many old homes have had rooms moved around, been reconfigured, etc.
 
Awesome find! I'd be tempted to "accidentally" open up more walls but a metal detector would be a better idea.
Hmm, I might have to do something similar one of these days just so future generations can have stories like this.
 
Only one set of "original walls" in the house and that's in one of the converted sunrooms/front porch/bedroom now. Originally, the small section of "wall" that I was replacing extended the length of the kitchen and dining room, dividing them in half. Sometime way before I was born it was opened up into one big room, I'm guessing when that wall was taken down is when the gun was put into it's hiding place. I unfortunately forgot the camera at work today (stupid last minute meetings lol)
 
There was a news story a few years ago about a guy who found a 1928 Thompson when remodeling his house in Illinois! It was oild or greased up and looked like new in the pics I saw.

Of course, he turned it in, so the best we can hope is the cops kept it and didn't melt it down.

If it was me, I'd have take it apart and turned in the receiver. Nothing like a free Thompson "parts kit." Then just find a transferable 1928 in really poor shape that hopefully would be a bit cheaper and then use it as a host.
 
If it was me, I'd have take it apart and turned in the receiver. Nothing like a free Thompson "parts kit." Then just find a transferable 1928 in really poor shape that hopefully would be a bit cheaper and then use it as a host.

Nope, I do not think you could do that. Ill does not allow NFA for nonLEO to the best of my knowledge.

NukemJim
PS talk about an interesting situation :)
 
Nope, I do not think you could do that. Ill does not allow NFA for nonLEO to the best of my knowledge.

long as he bought a legal Thompson reciever, he could build it and throw in a semi-auto sear... 100% legal in almost every state...

me, id have to move to a state where getting a NFA reciever would be 100% legal
 
Trebor: If it was me, I'd have take it apart and turned in the receiver. Nothing like a free Thompson "parts kit." Then just find a transferable 1928 in really poor shape that hopefully would be a bit cheaper and then use it as a host.

NukemJim: Nope, I do not think you could do that. Ill does not allow NFA for nonLEO to the best of my knowledge.

True, the guy in Illinois might not have had that option.

For me, in Michigan, if I found a Thompson in the wall, I could do that though. I'd have to surrender the receiver, since I'm sure it wouldn't be registered, and then I'd have to buy a transferable registered Thompson to use as a host gun.

It would be expensive, because even a beat up 1928 Thompson is pricey, but I could probably save some money buying a really beat up gun, maybe one that doesn't run right or a registered DEWAT, and then using the nearly new parts to upgrade the receiver.

It's all academic anyway. The odss of me finding a Thompson in the wallboards are worse then the odds of winning the lottery.

It's just a nice little fantasy I had when I heard about the guy who found the 1928 gun in his wallboards.
 
Finally remembered the camera and decided on taking a few photo's of the Winchester... Got carried away and started taking some shots of a few of the various things I've found in this old house. Going to be VERY picture intensive from here down but hope you all enjoy it.

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I know, my photography skills aren't that great.

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Picture of my Grandfather and a book of his I found in the attic
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One of about 100 old targets I found down in the basement
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Old inkwell and an old toy tow truck
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Probably the most random thing you'll see today... A Blueprint.. for a Fire Hydrant...
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Old camera I found in a steamer trunk
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Led Zeppelin Magazine I found in the ceiling rafters
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Here we have the Winchester I found in the wall
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The 1884 Springfield (slings a repro)
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And finally, the certificate that was found in the attic with the 1884 Springfield

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