If you were going to build a Russian Sniper rifle?

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Would you use a Mosin Nagat 91/30 with the LONG barrel or the shorter barrel M38? I am thinking of dropping one of these in an ATI stock and slapping on a reasonably powered scope. Which one is more accurate? Is the longer barrel just adding undue weight? I see lots of modern sniper rifles with 20 inch barrels nowadays. Thanks for the opinions.
 
The carbine - 38, or 44 - has a lot of muzzle blast. I'm not sure if you worry about that.

The easiest way probably is to get a scout scope mount. This way you don't have to mess with drill/tap the side of the receiver. It is way cheaper too, since you don't need to get a bent bolt for it.

If it is me, I would get a 38, or 91/59 and put a scout mount on.

-Pat
 
What about the long barrel one? It kind of looks weird with such a LOOONNNGGG barrel though.
 
I'd start with the long barrel Finnish rifle b/c they have the best barrels. Forget the short barrels - too much muzzle blast. I'd have it bedded in a synthetic stock w/free floating bbl and a good scope mount (surplus that requires drill & tapping). Decent glass and you're good to go. Remember, you don't have to be like Hathcock and be able to hit left/right eye upon demand - just render hors d' combat.
 
Hey Alduro,

Go with the long barrel, and before you do anything to the rifle, take it out and shoot it off of sandbags and see what kind of groups you get. Then, if you are mechanically declined, try glass bedding the rifle with the factory wood on it. I know a guy that did this, even bedded it inside the handguards, and cut his groups in half. The gun shoots like a house on fire(inch at 100 yards open sights with Norma ammo), and still looks nostalgic. His favorite movie is Enemy At The Gates :). Then you can use the money you save on the ATI stock for optics.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
I agree with LeonCarr. See what you can do with the original wood before breaking out the plastic credit. Even if you buy a synthetic stock, you may still need to do some work to bed, fit or freefloat it.

I've got an M39 Mosin Nagant that IMO, didn't shoot nearly as well as it should. I spend a few hours of quality time in the garage carefully fitting the stock to the action and free floating the barrel with nothing more than sandpaper, a few small blocks of wood and a dremel. The work paid off with a great improvement in accuracy. The best part is I was able to float it within the handguards so it still looks totally original.

Maybe someday I'll bed it with Acraglass, but for now I'm happy with it's performance as is.
 
Hey Alduro,

When you purchase the Brownells Acraglas (the most popular glass bedding compound), it will come with detailed instructions on how to do it. The most important thing is to take your time. Honestly, if you take your Mosin to a smith, he will probably charge you more to glass bed the rifle than the rifle is worth :). Also, do a Google search for Glass Bedding, or Mosin Nagant Glass Bedding, and you will probably get instructions on the Internet on how to do it. Free floating the barrel simply means that the barrel channel in the stock is relieved (usually with a dowel rod and sandpaper) to make sure no part of the stock touches the barrel, allowing it to consistently vibrate each time the rifle is fired, which will improve accuracy in most cases. Free Floating is usually done in conjuction with Glass Bedding. Hopefully this reply was helpful :).

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
Didn't mean to be snarky.

Seriously, I wonder if there exists a spec sheet for the Russian Sniper rifle of WW2, or if it was just a standard model fitted with a telescopic sight?

To be as true to historicly accurate I'd go looking for an original Russian rifle, see how it's put together and follow suit.
 
Actually, from what I gather the ONLY difference between the sniper rifle and the regular infantry rifle is
1. the markings obviously
2. the scope
3. the bolt

All the sniper's were made in the same factory but I forget which one....the same one that the ones on SOG for 59.99 were made at. So I got to thinking, it would be possible with a new bolt and a Soviet scope to build a replica Russian sniper for just a tad over 100.00 bucks.....not bad.
 
You can get "ex-sniper" Mosins at Aztec. The scope mount and scope have been removed, and the places where the screws attached to the receiver have been filled in (by the Russians). Yeah, you still need to get a mount and glass, but for about $100 incl. postage you have a rifle that the Red Army thought was pretty accurate to begin with from a mechanical standpoint.
 
Actually, from what I gather the ONLY difference between the sniper rifle and the regular infantry rifle is
1. the markings obviously
2. the scope
3. the bolt

All the sniper's were made in the same factory but I forget which one....the same one that the ones on SOG for 59.99 were made at.
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Nope, the Snipers were selected as rifles with better accuracy, and some production runs were made just for snipers. They were made at 2 factories, the Tula and Izhevesk factories.

If you want a sniper rifle you have 2 real options a Repro or a original. Repros run around 400 dollars from coles distributing and Interordnance. Coles also sells originals for around 800 dollars.

I have a repro and that mofo shoots like a champ. You may want to go down this road because you would spend about the same for a repro as you would trying to modify yours.

$60 bent bolt
$100 PU Scope mount
$120 PU scope
$70 Rifle
Drilling and tapping for mount depends on the gunsmith

But it will end up costing about the same as a repro, and will hack up one more poor mosin.
 
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