I'm a bad shot :(

[Panzerschwein]

Elmer Keith said 5 good rounds of practice daily beat 100 bad rounds at the end of the month, or something like that. You mentioned you fired 200 rounds in one range secession? That sound like way too much for a novice handgun shooter. Remember:

Quality, NOT quantity. Your wallet and your aim will thank you!

 

[poetdante]

The double tap was just for fun. I wasn't expecting it to go anywhere but on the paper. Fundamentals have been explained to me. I'm stuggling with the trigger pull


I've gone down to 50 rounds per week now. I divide that time/ammo between 5 and 7 yards. I end up having 2 loose rounds that I play with at 25yds and double taps (2nd shot of either never lands anywhere useful)

 

[9mmepiphany]

There is more than poor trigger management technique going on there. There also seems to be an issue with grip pressure...that is why your groups are leaning left...and anticipation

Did the Range Master study or observe your griping technique?
Did he change it at all?
During instruction, how tight a group were you able to shoot?

 

[murf]

looks and sounds like you are relaxing your grip pressure when you pull the trigger. grip pressure has to stay the same for the whole shot. the trigger pull doesn't end the shot.

try bringing the gun down from recoil and lining up the sights, again before you relax that grip and "end" the shot.

murf

 

[9mmepiphany]

looks and sounds like you are relaxing your grip pressure when you pull the trigger.

Funny thing is that I'd say he was gripping too tightly or tightening his grip as he pressed the trigger

grip pressure has to stay the same for the whole shot. the trigger pull doesn't end the shot.

This is true

try bringing the gun down from recoil and lining up the sights, again before you relax that grip and "end" the shot.

Unfortunately, I think his bringing the gun down from recoil is what is causing the separated groups in his third picture...although it could just as easily be slapping the trigger

 

[murf]

yes, one or the other on grip pressure. i said loose because he had problems with the grip shifting in his hand after the shot.

maybe i should have said "after recoil", instead. was trying to get him to follow through with the shot and not quit too soon.

biggest thing is not to fight recoil. that is common, especially with the little gun he is shooting.

murf

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

It's hard to speculate and give sound advice beyond what's already been given without actually being there. Groups could lean left or right based on trigger finger placement as well, for example.

Keep the same distance, since you can hit the target in the vicinity of your aiming point without any real problem. Then plunk your keister down on a seat and shoot from a bench rest, supporting your arms to minimize arm movement.

Then, with a PROPER grip and PROPER trigger placement, concentrate on maintaining your sight picture through each and every trigger pull. Take your time while you do this and if you find yourself getting tired, take a break.

Your groups should tighten up when you do this.

Once you've gotten yourself into shooting with tighter groups this way, make it a point to dedicate a portion of your target shooting to shooting this way. The purpose of this is to develop your hand and trigger control, along with your concentration, such that you are able to go through the motions of acquiring your target sight and holding it throughout your trigger pull. Shooting supported from a bench allows you to isolate other body movements which may interfere with and confuse you as you develop this control.

Once you've established a baseline by bench shooting, then shooting standing up will be both easier AND it will allow you to more easily figure out why your hits are scoring the way they are.

 

[Potatohead]

I also bought a Ruger SR45c for my gf to use and it fits my hand really well too.

Now did you get that for her or for you, let's be honest?


On the shooting part: Scoot the target up some.